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« on: January 29, 2010, 13:48 »
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Well... I've done it now! I have deleted all my files from every site so I can go exclusive with iStock.

Veer just contacted me and said my portfolio will ge gone by tomorrow.

Just a note to those thinking of doing this... be careful of Keywording at DT

It has taken me over a week to get everything removed. Phew.

Kinda scary - we'll see. Hope that crown fits!


« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 13:50 »
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Good Luck. Nothing worth having usually comes easy Bravo for sticking it out.

Best,
Jonathan

lisafx

« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 16:48 »
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Well... I've done it now! I have deleted all my files from every site so I can go exclusive with iStock.

Veer just contacted me and said my portfolio will ge gone by tomorrow.

Just a note to those thinking of doing this... be careful of Keywording at DT

It has taken me over a week to get everything removed. Phew.

Kinda scary - we'll see. Hope that crown fits!

Congratulations Penelope! 

I assume all your DT images are over 6 months old?  What did you mean "be careful of keywording at DT"?  What does keywording have to do with removing images?

« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 17:02 »
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You still have your images on DT at http://www.dreamstime.com/Sugarfoot_info


What do you mean by  "be careful of Keywording at DT" ?


« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 17:24 »
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lisafx

« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 17:28 »
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I'm seeing photos at http://www.dreamstime.com/Sugarfoot_portfolio_pg1 as well.


I see the thumbnails, but when I click on the images there's nothing there.  I think they have been successfully removed.

« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 17:43 »
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DREAMSTIME  >:( >:( >:(

At DT faq it reads: "...Once files are disabled, nobody but you or the admin will be able to view/access them. The files will remain in our offline database until all liabilities concerning them are cleared off, then they are automatically deleted..."

That's crap!
Just use the URL http://www.dreamstime.com/comp.php?imageid=FILE_ID&type=1     but change FILE_ID by the file ID you would like to see and you or anyone will see the BIG comp image of the file.

« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 19:36 »
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^^

I agree! That is TOTAL crap!

« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 19:50 »
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I have a sneaking suspicion that if you use their keyword service that it bumps the upload date up to the date you used the keyword service. Somehow, one of my photos got keyworded (I didn't request it?). The original upload date was 2005, it was recorded as keyworded incorrect (actually, all my files got marked as bad keywords), somehow it got re-keyworded, but the upload date changed to the date it got re-keyworded. I haven't uploaded to either DT or BS for a while as I've been on the fence for some time. Could posses a nightmare if you are trying to avoid the 6 months thing.

Unless this was just a random mistake as I didn't request the re-keyword service??? Glitch? DT was very nice about this and handled themselves very professionally. Thank you DT.

I think all the cache of thumbs and files will disappear over the next few days, as I manually deleted every file on every site that I could backed up by an email request to remove thumbs and affiliates. I also checked out of affiliates on every site I could prior and emailed the affiliates. Every site so far has been very nice and wished me good luck, and if you come back, we are still here. So far so good. Lets see what happens with my application for exclusivity from iStock.  I've done all I could to this point. Even Veer has taken everything down now. The thread on this forum regarding "going exclusive" really helped. Thanks folks.

Other than the fear of deleting all those files (some sites were nerve racking, but others, it was YES! no more cheesy commissions) makes me wonder ...Sure hope this was the right move?


lisafx

« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 19:55 »
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.

Other than the fear of deleting all those files (some sites were nerve racking, but others, it was YES! no more cheesy commissions) makes me wonder ...Sure hope this was the right move?



What sites were you on, if you don't mind posting? 

Hope you will keep us posted on your impressions once you get the crown.  It will be interesting to know if you notice a big uptick in your sales and/or search positions after you are exclusive...

Wishing you the best :)

« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 20:06 »
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DT, SS, FT, StockXpert, BS, and VEER.

Thanks Lisa. I will check back in.

I am silver at iStock, and wanted to preserve the download level to gold.

I have found the minilypses at iStock "fantastic", done three now and scheduled for another in May and hopefully another Toronto one this summer. If I can do more of these time and money wise, I'll go to as many as I can. Learned more there than anywhere else and the people I've met have been very nice and supportive even though I wasn't exclusive.

I've also found keep up with all the politics of all these sites, together with the constant "chipping" away of my rights and income very disheartening. This way I can concentrate on learning more and taking better pictures. All my best stuff from the minilypses is only on istock anyway, so it just seemed the natural way to go.

« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2010, 14:11 »
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Penelope,

How long did it take you to have your images removed from Veer?  And do you know about any Veer marketplace partner site?

I need to remove my content from Veer too and read this:
"Veer Marketplace will remove your Content from the Site within a thirty (30) day period, and
will use reasonable efforts to cause Content to be removed form the Sites of any affiliates and
partners within sixty (60) days from the removal from the Site."


« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2010, 15:03 »
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I'm not Penelope, but I removed my images at Veer about a month ago. Mostly because they weren't earning anything. It took about a week for support to get to it. I'm not aware of any partner sites.

« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2010, 15:41 »
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I'm not Penelope, but I removed my images at Veer about a month ago. Mostly because they weren't earning anything. It took about a week for support to get to it. I'm not aware of any partner sites.
Thanks!

« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2010, 22:59 »
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They said a week, waited 8 business days, contacted them twice more and Brian O'Shea via a site mail here. A fellow named Ryan said they would be down within 24 hours, and was good for his word. I had no sales at Veer so didn't have to worry about them hanging around for 60 days, so don't know how that works. Sorry. Don't know about affiliates either?

The 60 days is just in case someone has one in their checkout that they have purchased and it hangs around, so they told me.

« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2010, 15:24 »
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Thanks for the info on the keywording thing.  What's left of my port at DT now has a message that reads:
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This image has been rightfully reported as having bad keywords and an editor approved the needed corrections. At this time you can add more keywords only through the key-mentoring system.

The "Uploaded" and "Online Since" dates haven't changed, so hopefully nothing comes along and resets the dates on my port.  That would really mess with my plans.

« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2010, 16:18 »
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Even though Pixmac said they would take down my portfolio, its is Monday now and they are still up. Emailed them twice now, I hope they get their act together soon. It is not even thumbnails but my whole portfolio is for sale even though they were deleted earlier last week.

Also, DT has now emailed me stating they will not send me my $65.00 payout as it has not reached the $100 mark. So now, they claim that I lose it or buy picture. I am mighty P*SSED about this. I always had great admiration for Dreamstime, but with all the trouble I've had lately... it sure has wained! I am going to email them. They are the only other site that has done this. All the others have offered to pay out the balance.

So three more things to add to the exclusive process.. Make sure your payout at DT is either Zip or $100. and what ever you do... don't use their Keyword service if you are planning to leave their. And make sure you plan ahead so Pixmac can catch up.





« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 16:28 »
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Even though Pixmac said they would take down my portfolio, its is Monday now and they are still up. Emailed them twice now, I hope they get their act together soon. It is not even thumbnails but my whole portfolio is for sale even though they were deleted earlier last week.

Also, DT has now emailed me stating they will not send me my $65.00 payout as it has not reached the $100 mark. So now, they claim that I lose it or buy picture. I am mighty P*SSED about this. I always had great admiration for Dreamstime, but with all the trouble I've had lately... it sure has wained! I am going to email them. They are the only other site that has done this. All the others have offered to pay out the balance.

So three more things to add to the exclusive process.. Make sure your payout at DT is either Zip or $100. and what ever you do... don't use their Keyword service if you are planning to leave their. And make sure you plan ahead so Pixmac can catch up.


That's really annoying!

If I could I would remove my portfolio at DT today!  But still have to wait a couple of months.

Waht I will do now is to remove my portfolio at Veer Markeplace.  Did you send a message to [email protected] or [email protected] to have it removed?


« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 17:48 »
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One thing that might help in getting your port off of Pixmac is to go into your account settings on DT and look for the "Alliances" link.  Make sure to uncheck the box for Alliance partner sales.  Pixmac resells BOTH DT and FT images.  I've had an interesting time getting my images off of Pixmac, and I think I finally got it a couple of weeks ago now.

Which just reminded me to go check ImageTrail and see if some thumbnails are still showing up there...

« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 18:03 »
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One thing that might help in getting your port off of Pixmac is to go into your account settings on DT and look for the "Alliances" link.  Make sure to uncheck the box for Alliance partner sales.  Pixmac resells BOTH DT and FT images.  I've had an interesting time getting my images off of Pixmac, and I think I finally got it a couple of weeks ago now.

Which just reminded me to go check ImageTrail and see if some thumbnails are still showing up there...


I only have one thumbnail left at Imagetrail and have tried to contact them to have it removed.  But the contact form does not work.

Penelope, I think you should take a look at Imagetrail too: http://www.imagetrail.net/artist/2032115919/Sugarfoot

« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 19:27 »
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Wow... this is turning into a nightmare. I have called and emailed DREAMSTIME as it is obviously their affiliate as my user name is Sugarfoot.

 Very sad. What has happened to this industry???

I checked off the affiliate thing in both DT and FT very early last week, so there is no excuse.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 20:29 by PenelopeB »

« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 03:50 »
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How did you do that at FT?
I can't find any opt-out boxes...

« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 06:29 »
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Sorry, I thought is was FT but it was SS.

The Pixmac photos are gone this morning with a "sorry" email, but the Imagetrail ones are still there.

« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 09:13 »
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Do downloads at imagetrail all go through DT and are they counted towards the image level of each picture at DT? 

If so, then I've got major discrepancies between the level of my pictures on DT versus the number of downloads reported on image trail. 

One picture I have that is on IT and was on DT, was downloaded 65 times alone on IT, yet only had a level on DT of 25 - 49 downloads? and this is repeated through out.

Does anyone know?
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 10:29 by PenelopeB »

lisafx

« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 10:34 »
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Penny, thanks for posting all this.  Your difficulties made me realize what a hassle the partner programs at the various sites can be to get out of. 

I just withdrew from the partner programs on all sites that allow it, 6 months in advance of going exclusive.  Hopefully that will give enough time for my images to be removed from those affiliates.


 

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