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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2015, 12:07 »
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@ dolgachov,

Well done, though no agency would do such a thing anyway, it is in all TOS that buyers are not allowed to contact photographers.

Now let's grow up!
You say they were acting 2 month ago, domain created on 2015-06-30 but they could have been using another domain name before. How come nobody took any action till now?
I'm somehow confused here; do you want to defend your work and copyright or you want to solve your problems by being the advocate of threatened buyers? I still don't understand how do these people find you if you sell only by stock agencies (as per your web page). You have nothing to fear if you didn't do anything wrong.

 Threatening, in itself and asking for money is neither a crime nor fraud. At most it can be is cyberextortion.
Normal police doesn't investigate cyber crime.

Prosecution investigates fraud if there is any solid evidence of fraud. I don't understand those papers bagnaz adam posted and can't find any other tread either. So did someone come up with evidence of fraud or just with threatening? If yes, he will take some mild fine in a year or two, maybe. In the meantime he will get even richer from stealing and you will lose your shirt on lawsuits, no matter how big boys you are.
There are countless examples of such things on the web.

Internet crime is not taken seriously enough by authorities.
You have to do something to take that site down.

Just saying.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2015, 12:16 by Dodie »


« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2015, 12:25 »
+2
hi, just speaking is worth nothing guys.
How right you are.
Good luck and keep us posted!

« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2015, 13:46 »
+12
This is Jon from Ktools.net. This was brought to my attention today. This person is using our PhotoStore product to run a site that seems to be hosting photos that are infringing on copyrights of others. I have given them until tomorrow to remove these photos or I will shut the site and hosting account down. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2015, 14:14 »
+4
This is Jon from Ktools.net. This was brought to my attention today. This person is using our PhotoStore product to run a site that seems to be hosting photos that are infringing on copyrights of others. I have given them until tomorrow to remove these photos or I will shut the site and hosting account down. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Awesome! That's what I thought, that they actually host these images on the KTOOLS servers which is insanely stupid actually as KTOOLS would never knowingly allow that!!!

Great for stepping up and taking action!

« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2015, 14:18 »
+3
Still, everyone who has been affected will have to keep watching that URL as that company will change (or have to change) their web hosts.

So their domain name will redirect you to the new web host and the game may start all over again.

Therefore, if KTOOLS shuts them down AND your images appear again under that domain name In a few days/weeks then send a DMCA claim to both the new webhost AND the registrar of that domain name (name.com).

If the domain registrar is also aware that their client is abusing the domain name, they might shut down the domain name as well for copyright infringement (which is explicitly forbidden by the TOS of name.com).

« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2015, 15:20 »
+3
This is Jon from Ktools.net. This was brought to my attention today. This person is using our PhotoStore product to run a site that seems to be hosting photos that are infringing on copyrights of others. I have given them until tomorrow to remove these photos or I will shut the site and hosting account down. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Awesome, Jon!

Now, we will all have to keep an eye out...once they are shut down from Ktools server, you can believe they will find hosting somewhere else. Unless the lawyers shut them down.

« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2015, 15:48 »
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This is Jon from Ktools.net. This was brought to my attention today. This person is using our PhotoStore product to run a site that seems to be hosting photos that are infringing on copyrights of others. I have given them until tomorrow to remove these photos or I will shut the site and hosting account down. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Problem solved! Great.

@ Jon from Ktools.net.
Sorry for doubting your possible actions in my statement. Maybe a better choice of words would have been more appropriate.

Lev

« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2015, 07:02 »
+2
As I see, they deleted 3 images I used as examples in DMCA notice, but left hundreds my our other images on their site.

In the meanwhile I've got another complain from Turkish customer who bought image on Shutterstock some time ago and now is threatened by these people.

« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2015, 09:00 »
+4
He started taking down some of the photos but as a couple of you have pointed out there are still others. I have emailed him again to have him remove all these photos. If it is not done today the account will be closed for good and completely removed from our servers. This is definitely not something we take lightly. If anyone has any further issues or questions with the site feel free to email me directly at newbielink:mailto:info@ktools.net [nonactive].

« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2015, 13:17 »
+5
If you haven't shut the account down yet then no, sorry, you aren't  taking it seriously.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2015, 15:34 »
+10
He started taking down some of the photos but as a couple of you have pointed out there are still others. I have emailed him again to have him remove all these photos. If it is not done today the account will be closed for good and completely removed from our servers. This is definitely not something we take lightly. If anyone has any further issues or questions with the site feel free to email me directly at info@ktools.net.

I don't understand why, after all this evidence that images are stolen, people are being threatened and harrassed and abuse the TOS, you still give them 24 hours to comply. If I were you, I'd shut down the site without prior notice. You have that right, I assume.

« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2015, 02:23 »
+2
In previous instances where images of mine were offered for sale on a website (or otherwise used to make money without the appropraite license) the web host shut down the site after one DMCA complaint that I made.

I think KTOOLS can show some support for artists when clearly a company is ripping off contributors with rather large sums making some good money through extortion.

Did anybody send a copy of these documents to KTOOLS so they can verify the accusations? This may accelerate the closure of the account.

« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2015, 02:34 »
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He started taking down some of the photos but as a couple of you have pointed out there are still others. I have emailed him again to have him remove all these photos. If it is not done today the account will be closed for good and completely removed from our servers. This is definitely not something we take lightly. If anyone has any further issues or questions with the site feel free to email me directly at info@ktools.net.

I don't understand why, after all this evidence that images are stolen, people are being threatened and harrassed and abuse the TOS, you still give them 24 hours to comply. If I were you, I'd shut down the site without prior notice. You have that right, I assume.
They are doing the same thing as the actual site itself. Hiding behind the DMCA. Only taking down the images specifically reported, even if every image that is investigated turns out to dodgy. How could the site comply? What is KTools waiting for? I hope every photographer using KTools reads this thread is all I can say.

« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2015, 02:43 »
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hi. We are software company from turkey. this web site contacted us today and said 'you are using our photo. we will sue you. you can go to prison for this. if you don't want us to sue you, then pay us 150 dollar which is photo's cost on our site.' interesting thing is we have already pay for the photo at other stock image web site. you can find documents in attachments.

here is the link from turkey telling the same think about resimstock.com:
newbielink:https://eksisozluk.com/resimstock-com--4875947 [nonactive]

Same thing happaned to me also. I am from Turkey. They called me yesterday and told me to pay $150 dollars or you will go to jail for 2 years. You said you suited them. What happened? What can i do?
« Last Edit: August 13, 2015, 02:50 by martinn »

« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2015, 04:25 »
+1
Obviously they're confidence tricksters.
I'm from Turkey too. Turkish webmasters or stock photographers call police immediately or use online  complaint form( newbielink:http://www.egm.gov.tr/sayfalar/ihbar.aspx [nonactive]) and informing about their illegal activities especially their banks IBAN number and telephone numbers etc.
They've no intent to remove photos their website. I think their host dont want lose their customer because its big business $150 from single photo without any cost. I think shutterstock and the other big companies need pay attention to this case
« Last Edit: August 13, 2015, 05:08 by macukali »

« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2015, 05:35 »
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I hope everyone complaining has legally licensed their photos from stock sites, otherwise bringing this to the attention of legitimate sites could just result in a legitimate suing. If not they need to run out and get licenses ASAP. Just saying.

fotorob

  • I am a professional stock photographer

« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2015, 06:31 »
+7
Thanks to everyone for helping to shut down the site (at least for now)



« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2015, 07:10 »
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Congratulations!

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2015, 07:14 »
+3
Good work! Site is down.

Lev

« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2015, 07:58 »
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Is it the same hosting?

Looks like some other hosting and "site under constuction".

« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2015, 09:01 »
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Is it the same hosting?

Looks like some other hosting and "site under constuction".

Yes they have changed their hosting company as the updated WHOIS information shows:

Code: [Select]
Domain Name: RESIMSTOCK.COM
Registrar: NAME.COM, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 625
Whois Server: whois.name.com
Referral URL: http://www.name.com
Name Server: NS1.NATROHOST.COM
Name Server: NS2.NATROHOST.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 13-aug-2015
Creation Date: 30-jun-2015
Expiration Date: 30-jun-2016
resimstock.com registrar whois
Updated 1 second ago
Domain Name: RESIMSTOCK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1943332277_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.name.com
Registrar URL: http://www.name.com
Updated Date: 2015-08-13T10:41:10-06:00Z
Creation Date: 2015-06-30T08:42:01-06:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-30T08:42:01-06:00Z
Registrar: Name.com, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 625
Reseller: 
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: Whois Agent
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant Street: PO Box 639 
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657
Registrant Fax: +1.4259744730
Registrant Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Registry Admin ID: 
Admin Name: Whois Agent
Admin Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Admin Street: PO Box 639 
Admin City: Kirkland
Admin State/Province: WA
Admin Postal Code: 98083
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4252740657
Admin Fax: +1.4259744730
Admin Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Registry Tech ID: 
Tech Name: Whois Agent
Tech Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Tech Street: PO Box 639 
Tech City: Kirkland
Tech State/Province: WA
Tech Postal Code: 98083
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4252740657
Tech Fax: +1.4259744730
Tech Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Name Server: ns1.natrohost.com
Name Server: ns2.natrohost.com
DNSSEC: Unsigned Delegation
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@name.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.17203101849
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-13T07:59:05-06:00 <<<
Do we have someone here who speaks Turkish? I used Google translate to check for Natro.com's copyright terms but couldn't find any.

Probably they picked a web host who doesn't care about copyright. They most likely won't make this "mistake" twice.

« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2015, 09:06 »
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I can only repeat, if Resimstock comes back online with the same site, I recommend that affected artists should also contact (DMCA claim) the domain registrar "name.com" as well.

Name.com is located in the US and if they see any chance that someone could make a copyright claim against them for knowingly supporting that company should lead to quick actions as well.

« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2015, 08:32 »
+1
natrohost and Turkish police wants 'court order' for intervention :)
Good luck!

« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2015, 09:03 »
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I saw that their site is again online....  :-\

« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2015, 15:12 »
+2
Hello, I'm Turkish.  Natro's service agreement has such terms at the page below and translates as follows.

newbielink:http://www.natro.com/webhosting/hizmetSozlesmesi.asp [nonactive]

a.   Paylaşılan web sunucuları ve Bayi sunucularının hibirinde kabul edilmeyen materyallere şunlar dahildir:
        Forbidden materials in any of the shared web servers and reseller servers includes below,

   Telif hakları denmemiş ieriklerin yayınlanması
        Publishing copyright protected content without holding the rights

As for the threats, when asked to prove their authority over the materials, they claim photos were taken  either in their studios or in a studio they represent according to a legal agreement that imposes confidentiality clause thereby there never disclose who they actually represent at the artist side.

This is still a hot topic for Turkish web sites, everyone should write their findings.



Is it the same hosting?

Looks like some other hosting and "site under constuction".

Yes they have changed their hosting company as the updated WHOIS information shows:

Code: newbielink:javascript:void(0); [nonactive]
Domain Name: RESIMSTOCK.COM
Registrar: NAME.COM, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 625
Whois Server: whois.name.com
Referral URL: http://www.name.com
Name Server: NS1.NATROHOST.COM
Name Server: NS2.NATROHOST.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 13-aug-2015
Creation Date: 30-jun-2015
Expiration Date: 30-jun-2016
resimstock.com registrar whois
Updated 1 second ago
Domain Name: RESIMSTOCK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1943332277_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.name.com
Registrar URL: http://www.name.com
Updated Date: 2015-08-13T10:41:10-06:00Z
Creation Date: 2015-06-30T08:42:01-06:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-30T08:42:01-06:00Z
Registrar: Name.com, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 625
Reseller: 
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: Whois Agent
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Registrant Street: PO Box 639 
Registrant City: Kirkland
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657
Registrant Fax: +1.4259744730
Registrant Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Registry Admin ID: 
Admin Name: Whois Agent
Admin Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Admin Street: PO Box 639 
Admin City: Kirkland
Admin State/Province: WA
Admin Postal Code: 98083
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4252740657
Admin Fax: +1.4259744730
Admin Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Registry Tech ID: 
Tech Name: Whois Agent
Tech Organization: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Tech Street: PO Box 639 
Tech City: Kirkland
Tech State/Province: WA
Tech Postal Code: 98083
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4252740657
Tech Fax: +1.4259744730
Tech Email: email@protecteddomainservices.com
Name Server: ns1.natrohost.com
Name Server: ns2.natrohost.com
DNSSEC: Unsigned Delegation
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@name.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.17203101849
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-13T07:59:05-06:00 <<<
Do we have someone here who speaks Turkish? I used Google translate to check for Natro.com's copyright terms but couldn't find any.

Probably they picked a web host who doesn't care about copyright. They most likely won't make this "mistake" twice.


 

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