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Whats your biggest reason for following this thread?

I want to host my own images.
23 (23.2%)
I want a fallback plan for when microstock fails contributors.
8 (8.1%)
I really really like the idea of keeping 100% of my earnings.
16 (16.2%)
I am intrigued by the idea of networking independent artist sites and working together.
32 (32.3%)
I'm a microstock agency who wants to keep an eye on this development.
2 (2%)
Its just another way to promote my portfolio, like any other site.
5 (5.1%)
I like community projects. This one rocks.
13 (13.1%)

Total Members Voted: 85

Author Topic: Open Source Platform For Selling Images: Authors and PHP Developers Wanted.  (Read 77573 times)

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faberfoto

  • Sorridi contagioso!

« Reply #100 on: February 05, 2013, 09:48 »
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very very very interesting.


« Reply #101 on: February 05, 2013, 09:59 »
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This is a great project and I'd be willing to donate for a final version as well.

OP, could you please add all the latest updates and eventual download links into your first post?

That way it's much easier to see the "official" development.

Best of luck!

« Reply #102 on: February 05, 2013, 10:40 »
+1
Great idea!!!

If you can built it with an integrated search engine, so the client can search in all the portfolios of all contributors ... Maybe we have a way to keep 100% and maybe our commission at agencies will rise, when they start to loose clients.

I am willing to help as a photographer (sorry, don't know PHP).

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2013, 17:46 »
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This is a great project and I'd be willing to donate for a final version as well.

OP, could you please add all the latest updates and eventual download links into your first post?

That way it's much easier to see the "official" development.

Best of luck!

I'll do that! I'm not very experienced at huge threads like this.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2013, 17:52 »
+1
Great idea!!!

If you can built it with an integrated search engine, so the client can search in all the portfolios of all contributors ... Maybe we have a way to keep 100% and maybe our commission at agencies will rise, when they start to loose clients.

I am willing to help as a photographer (sorry, don't know PHP).

Regarding the method of networking - here are some things I'm planning - I'll expound a little more:

1. You own a website. You have your images and search engine...
2. You have friends/microstockers you've connected with over the years. you add them to your network. Their search results show below yours.
3. Customer navigates around sites. Symbiostock will track their carts/items so they can keep track and make their individual purchases when they are ready.

The question you ask, no doubt; This is a lot of work for the customer isn't it?

My answer: Yes it is. But your images have enough value that its worth it for them. The image author is worth the time to revisit site for final purchase as well.

Also symbiostock main site will progressively be worked up to constantly aggregate all search results from *all* the networks, on a regular basis, making a master search. But this will have to be a paid function for obvious reasons.

I didn't know this thread had progressed more! Must be a glitch. I'll keep checking back.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2013, 18:28 by KonaHawaii »

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2013, 18:13 »
0
This looks very interesting.

The thread title is lousy, though - I'm not a PHP developer so I had ignored this up to now.

Changed!

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2013, 18:17 »
+2

I'm not a developer, so don't know the technicalities of it all. Just wondering if there is any easy way to get this to work in WP, perhaps along with Kona's theme or the Sell Media plugin?

This installs as a theme. It integrates perfectly with wordpress, and at the same time I'm trying to keep this from looking wordpressy. For the user it will be as simple as "install theme" and setting up your menus/widgets/options which is standard wordpress stuff.

In fact, it plays so nicely with wordpress you'll be able to install plugins and features from everywhere else without any problems. Its genuine wordpress stuff. I've been doing this for years :D.

THP Creative

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« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2013, 18:39 »
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I'm not a developer, so don't know the technicalities of it all. Just wondering if there is any easy way to get this to work in WP, perhaps along with Kona's theme or the Sell Media plugin?

This installs as a theme. It integrates perfectly with wordpress, and at the same time I'm trying to keep this from looking wordpressy. For the user it will be as simple as "install theme" and setting up your menus/widgets/options which is standard wordpress stuff.

In fact, it plays so nicely with wordpress you'll be able to install plugins and features from everywhere else without any problems. Its genuine wordpress stuff. I've been doing this for years :D.

Thanks Kona, I appreciate your comments. But what I was really asking was is there a simple way to get something like Amazon S3 running, through wordpress, in conjunction with your theme? Or to put it another way, will your theme's functionality allow the high-res files to be stored on S3 servers and delivered from there?

Thanks again. I'm dying to get started on rebuilding my site, so I can't wait for you and elvinstar to have your products ready for us to try! :)

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2013, 23:37 »
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Oh sorry bout that! Was just looking into it - http://aws.amazon.com/documentation/s3/

The quick answer is this: If Amazon has API that allows it, then it programming it is a simple matter of learning their system as they've outlined it.

Depending on how many requests I get after initial release, I can make it as a plugin to the theme. I'm sure people with gigantic ports will need it :D.

« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2013, 01:38 »
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I dont think I can add anything :) but it certainly sounds great and I would be very keen to try it out when ready

« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2013, 16:23 »
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I have a stock site that runs on WP but stores all the images on S3. I bought it this way so I'm not really sure how it works, but it can't be difficult.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2013, 16:28 »
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So is this the overall consensus? You want that feature for sure? Personally I don't like depending on "the big guys" for details like this, but I can build in the option of people really want it. Its not really my own bias, just what everyone wants. Its probably a day of coding, from what I've learned with my other api projects.

hotwalkn

  • ...I have a lens fetish...

« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2013, 16:50 »
+2
Ok, now here's an upbeat thread I can get excited about! :) I'm very familiar with Wordpress and its abilities. SEO with Wordpress is a breeze and actually works! Being able to network with fellow contributors will definitely be a plus. This can only be a good thing. :D

« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2013, 22:08 »
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So is this the overall consensus? You want that feature for sure? Personally I don't like depending on "the big guys" for details like this,
Are we talking about Amazon storage?   I don't like depending on the big guys either.

« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2013, 22:24 »
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KonaHawaii...will you put an option to accept Contributors?

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2013, 22:36 »
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I haven't put much energy into that, though it should not be hard since WP already manages multiple authors. Come to think of it - I don't see why I'd have to build it in! Its already there! :D

« Reply #116 on: February 06, 2013, 23:25 »
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So is this the overall consensus? You want that feature for sure? Personally I don't like depending on "the big guys" for details like this,
Are we talking about Amazon storage?   I don't like depending on the big guys either.

I'd rather rely on the most robust information infrastructure in the world and the security, redundancy and reliability that goes with it than a rinky dink hosting company with limited resources. Many hosting companies use S3 anyway and just mark up the space and data they sell you.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #117 on: February 06, 2013, 23:45 »
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Ok then, I'll make that a part of it before I release it. It'll simply be a choice of the site author to use it or not. Glad you all brought it up early.

EDIT: Looks like its all covered; http://wp.smashingmagazine.com/2011/12/01/integrating-amazon-s3-wordpress/

Edited again: I may release the whole package without s3 for initial testing and anyone brave enough to be a guinea pig, and immediately jump on the s3 integration. The upload process will have to immediately upload to amazon and make the process rather invisible to the user. But its perfectly do-able.

Edited yet again!: Plupload which I use for the uploader supports s3! Oh how awesome.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2013, 23:54 by KonaHawaii »

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2013, 19:34 »
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PROGRESS UPDATE: 2/5/13

Many thanks to Maurizio of www.faberfoto.com, for coming up with this beautiful logo. I love it. The interwoven "S" icon depicts symbiosis very well. Awesome awesome awesome.



Main product page is almost done, and the cart itself is well along.

I appreciate all of the contacts I've received over this thread, from testers to developers in different areas.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2013, 20:00 by KonaHawaii »

« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2013, 21:27 »
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Very nice logo!

faberfoto

  • Sorridi contagioso!

« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2013, 08:09 »
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elvinstar, grazie  8)

I'm glad I gave my small contribution to the project  ;)

« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2013, 11:54 »
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Great looking logo - if I have my site with Photoshelter will I be able to add chosen photos to this project? Will it only be for RF microstock photos or for RM too?
Sounds promising.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2013, 15:21 »
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I don't know much about RM, but if its simply a license, someone just has to create the basic license.

Should I put an official call out there?

This project needs:


Licensing options for images. A typical default "body" of the license which covers all of the basics, plus license "modifiers" where an author can add or subtract things, making it a narrower or broader allowance. Written in plain English with legal strength. Quite possibly and RF and RM template.
I intend to have a "default settings" area where the license applies to each image uploaded, and an "override" in the image area where licensing as well as pricing can be tweaked for a given image.



I know this seems like a lot of work or deep for the customer, but we are trying to make images "Worth the trouble" as a design solution (advertising is a billion billion billion dollar business after all!) It also allows a happy face or stick figure (or an orange man!) to not be forced out at the same value or licensing as a more elaborate image which took much more effort and skill, or the artist has placed a different value on.

« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2013, 19:24 »
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i've got a software license at http://cascoly.com/license.txt that anyone is free to modify - it was used mostly for CDs of lowres images;  it originally came from a shareware forum

« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2013, 19:41 »
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I don't know much about RM, but if its simply a license, someone just has to create the basic license.

Should I put an official call out there?

This project needs:


Licensing options for images. A typical default "body" of the license which covers all of the basics, plus license "modifiers" where an author can add or subtract things, making it a narrower or broader allowance. Written in plain English with legal strength. Quite possibly and RF and RM template.
I intend to have a "default settings" area where the license applies to each image uploaded, and an "override" in the image area where licensing as well as pricing can be tweaked for a given image.



I know this seems like a lot of work or deep for the customer, but we are trying to make images "Worth the trouble" as a design solution (advertising is a billion billion billion dollar business after all!) It also allows a happy face or stick figure (or an orange man!) to not be forced out at the same value or licensing as a more elaborate image which took much more effort and skill, or the artist has placed a different value on.


Leo, the license itself is not the complicated bit, it's the pricing. The Stock Artists Alliance have developed a simplified pricing system, which would be the logical way to go. See http://www.stockartistsalliance.org/pluspacks/index.htm for details.

The calculator code is open source, and could be packaged as an optional WordPress plugin.

PicturEngine have implemented this, and it's more straightforward to use than, say, the Alamy or Getty systems.


 

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