Author Topic: Shutterstock sales are bad. (Read 10772 times)

oscarcwilliams · « **on:** February 14, 2017, 14:35 »

My shutterstock sales are bad since the new dashboard has been put in place. Anyone else? Thanks.

Chichikov · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2017, 15:15 »

For me they are bad since the beginning of the year… really bad

Brightontl · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2017, 15:37 »

I agree with Chicicoff.
SS went into a deep coma since the beginning of the year.
I do only video and SS was always the number one until last year.
I hope is only due to all the useless changes they did

xbrchx · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2017, 15:49 »

Big rise for me this month. First half of January was bad, but then it starts to grow and it didn't stop yet fortunately.

Copidosoma · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2017, 17:40 »

I like my sales alot. I'd never call them bad.

littleny · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2017, 20:30 »

Sudden decrease by about 30%-40% since December. Shutterstock has obviously changed something. In my opinion it's the 'same artist' display. Used to be that a customer was able to view similar images by the same artist, now only your most popular images get displayed, often irrelevant to the customer search.
I'm in the USA and I find after 4:00 (16:00) sales practically stop for the rest of the day. Awful.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2017, 02:36 »

I experience more sales since December.

derek · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2017, 02:49 »

Quote from: littleny on February 14, 2017, 20:30

Sudden decrease by about 30%-40% since December. Shutterstock has obviously changed something. In my opinion it's the 'same artist' display. Used to be that a customer was able to view similar images by the same artist, now only your most popular images get displayed, often irrelevant to the customer search.
I'm in the USA and I find after 4:00 (16:00) sales practically stop for the rest of the day. Awful.

wrong post.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2017, 03:08 »

My January is always down a lot on December. Up to 30% and has been for 10 years. The run up to Christmas is the number one retail marketing time of the year. If you are relatively new your portfolio growth may have masked this in previous years.

derek · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2017, 03:13 »

Spot on! in Europe its the reverse. Could also be losing droves of buyers. Seriously though with 120 million files who wants to sit there looking for a picture.

Uploading new files is also a complete waste. Uploaded 20 studio concepts involving people and everything they were all accepted within hours but they are nowhere to be seen just gone. That was a week back.
Until they have completely changed that was my last upload. No more.

Sadly with their silly search experiments they've managed to annihilate Bigstock as well.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2017, 02:38 »

Constant decrease from October 2016 to Mid-february.
This week, downloads and revenues are back.
🤞

Stockmaan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2017, 03:15 »

Quote from: Thomas from France on February 16, 2017, 02:38

Constant decrease from October 2016 to Mid-february.
This week, downloads and revenues are back.
🤞

Yep my decrease was from december, this week is back to normal.

derek · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2017, 04:31 »

I dont know why but something tells me that it will never completely go back to normal. Sure we will have good and bad days but on the broader perspective it looks very much like some sort of an Istock shamble with the exception of their exclusivity. Been with both since 2008

Anyway win some lose some. Good news is that Adobe continues to perform excellent. Fingers crossed.

mojaric · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2017, 05:25 »

same money each month from two years now...vs a lot of uploads = not so good

Artist · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2017, 06:55 »

Quote from: derek on February 15, 2017, 03:13

Spot on! in Europe its the reverse. Could also be losing droves of buyers. Seriously though with 120 million files who wants to sit there looking for a picture.

Uploading new files is also a complete waste. Uploaded 20 studio concepts involving people and everything they were all accepted within hours but they are nowhere to be seen just gone. That was a week back.
Until they have completely changed that was my last upload. No more.

Sadly with their silly search experiments they've managed to annihilate Bigstock as well.

Why don't you quit, if the situation looks too bad to you?
1 less competitor.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2017, 07:17 »

Quote from: Artist on February 16, 2017, 06:55

Quote from: derek on February 15, 2017, 03:13
Spot on! in Europe its the reverse. Could also be losing droves of buyers. Seriously though with 120 million files who wants to sit there looking for a picture.

Uploading new files is also a complete waste. Uploaded 20 studio concepts involving people and everything they were all accepted within hours but they are nowhere to be seen just gone. That was a week back.
Until they have completely changed that was my last upload. No more.

Sadly with their silly search experiments they've managed to annihilate Bigstock as well.

Why don't you quit, if the situation looks too bad to you?
1 less competitor.

Hasn't he/she said they have? But then again I've heard this line for 6 years and people still seem to be hanging round.

nadalbg · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2017, 07:21 »

I was selling some photos in January when I started, now I earn around 100% less in February. Almost no downloads and only the new pics get sold...
I quit uploading new pics, there is no point to continue.

derek · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2017, 07:35 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 07:17

Quote from: Artist on February 16, 2017, 06:55
Quote from: derek on February 15, 2017, 03:13
Spot on! in Europe its the reverse. Could also be losing droves of buyers. Seriously though with 120 million files who wants to sit there looking for a picture.

Uploading new files is also a complete waste. Uploaded 20 studio concepts involving people and everything they were all accepted within hours but they are nowhere to be seen just gone. That was a week back.
Until they have completely changed that was my last upload. No more.

Sadly with their silly search experiments they've managed to annihilate Bigstock as well.

Why don't you quit, if the situation looks too bad to you?
1 less competitor.
Hasn't he/she said they have? But then again I've heard this line for 6 years and people still seem to be hanging round.

haha! youre right actually! but sometimes a bit of moaning will help. ita as if the Gods listen sending some fat juicy sales.

outoftheblue · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2017, 07:37 »

Quote from: nadalbg on February 16, 2017, 07:21

I was selling some photos in January when I started, now I earn around 100% less in February. Almost no downloads and only the new pics get sold...
I quit uploading new pics, there is no point to continue.

Great plan

Pauws99 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2017, 07:48 »

Quote from: nadalbg on February 16, 2017, 07:21

I was selling some photos in January when I started, now I earn around 100% less in February. Almost no downloads and only the new pics get sold...
I quit uploading new pics, there is no point to continue.

Maybe 5 weeks experience is a little premature

Lana · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2017, 12:02 »

February is not my friend. A year ago it was worse than December and January, this year is the same - slower than Christmas week

FT is doing terrible too since the Feb started.. March should be better

Pixart · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2017, 12:20 »

- SS I passed January already - which wasn't fab yet wasn't terrible
- FT - WTH is going on? My daily ranking has slid by about 7000 so it is presumably just me.
- The surprise showing this year is DT. Not back to the good old days, but Jan was as good as best month last year, and Feb has just passed Jan.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 16, 2017, 12:28 »

Quote from: Pixart on February 16, 2017, 12:20

- SS I passed January already - which wasn't fab yet wasn't terrible
- FT - WTH is going on? My daily ranking has slid by about 7000 so it is presumably just me.
- The surprise showing this year is DT. Not back to the good old days, but Jan was as good as best month last year, and Feb has just passed Jan.

I'm doing poorly on FT too very hit and miss. DT better last month from a VERY low base. Lots of different experiences for people I think.

JetCityImage · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2017, 12:39 »

When microstock companies make changes either to search functions or to the Dashboard, you have to figure it is to help the customer and not the contributors. Whose complaints carry more weight - those who make you money or those who cost you money?

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2017, 14:14 »

blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all

Chichikov · « **Reply #25 on:** February 16, 2017, 15:42 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14

blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all

It is not because of the new dashboard, it is because of the new earnings pages…

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #26 on:** February 16, 2017, 15:51 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14

blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all

And yet I saw the same thing - maybe it is more than just a new dashboard, maybe there's a change to the search introduced at the same time.

BTW - isn't it weird that the sales are listed numerically according to the first digit in the file number, rather than taking account of the whole number (i.e. file 10,000,000,000 first, followed by file 20, followed by 3,000,000, followed by 456)

Minsc · « **Reply #27 on:** February 16, 2017, 16:07 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 16, 2017, 15:51

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all

And yet I saw the same thing - maybe it is more than just a new dashboard, maybe there's a change to the search introduced at the same time.

BTW - isn't it weird that the sales are listed numerically according to the first digit in the file number, rather than taking account of the whole number (i.e. file 10,000,000,000 first, followed by file 20, followed by 3,000,000, followed by 456)

Sales are listed in this order:

Number of sales, ~~followed by newest upload~~ followed by download order for that day. It was by newest upload a few days ago that I remembered, but looks like some thing changed.

There hasn't been any changes to the search that anyone has noticed. If sales are down, it's probably because of increased competition.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #28 on:** February 16, 2017, 16:20 »

Quote from: JetCityImage on February 16, 2017, 12:39

When microstock companies make changes either to search functions or to the Dashboard, you have to figure it is to help the customer and not the contributors. Whose complaints carry more weight - those who make you money or those who cost you money?

If contributors only cost the companies money it would certainly be a real mystery why they let any in at all!

obj owl · « **Reply #29 on:** February 16, 2017, 16:29 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on February 16, 2017, 16:20

Quote from: JetCityImage on February 16, 2017, 12:39
When microstock companies make changes either to search functions or to the Dashboard, you have to figure it is to help the customer and not the contributors. Whose complaints carry more weight - those who make you money or those who cost you money?

If contributors only cost the companies money it would certainly be a real mystery why they let any in at all!

They don't let anybody in, no contributor has any say in any aspect of the workings of Shutterstock. Contributors are very vulnerable to the whims of the agencies.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #30 on:** February 16, 2017, 16:41 »

Quote from: Minsc on February 16, 2017, 16:07

If sales are down, it's probably because of increased competition.

Not overnight, I've been in this lark for 13 years and I've seen the gradual erosion but there was a marked change the day the new sales chart appeared. I've escaped most of the shifts that other people have suffered but something got me this time.

pkphotos · « **Reply #31 on:** February 16, 2017, 17:54 »

Shutterstock have lost their mojo in the last year, that's for sure. Hopefully they can get their act together and rediscover it.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 16, 2017, 18:35 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14

blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all

The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #33 on:** February 17, 2017, 01:35 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 18:35

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all
The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change

But I've got the same 6,000 files today as I had in December. I don't think their quality has changed. Still, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence as I can't see any search change.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 17, 2017, 04:02 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 17, 2017, 01:35

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 18:35
Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all
The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change
But I've got the same 6,000 files today as I had in December. I don't think their quality has changed. Still, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence as I can't see any search change.

Not added any? We know supply is growing faster than demand not surprising then if sales go down? Maybe the relative quality to the competition has changed with these new files. Maybe the competition has identified best sellers and been er "inspired" by them,

derek · « **Reply #35 on:** February 17, 2017, 04:42 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 17, 2017, 01:35

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 18:35
Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all
The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change
But I've got the same 6,000 files today as I had in December. I don't think their quality has changed. Still, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence as I can't see any search change.

Looking at your pictures which are superbly executed and considering the pile of rubbish they nowadays accept. I don't think you have to worry about the competition aspect.

just a thought.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2017, 06:13 »

Quote from: derek on February 17, 2017, 04:42

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 17, 2017, 01:35
Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 18:35
Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all
The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change
But I've got the same 6,000 files today as I had in December. I don't think their quality has changed. Still, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence as I can't see any search change.

Looking at your pictures which are superbly executed and considering the pile of rubbish they nowadays accept. I don't think you have to worry about the competition aspect.

just a thought.

So is EVERYTHING accepted now rubbish?

derek · « **Reply #37 on:** February 17, 2017, 06:43 »

Taliking about his food stills and cityscapes! I thought you understood that.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 17, 2017, 06:49 »

Quote from: derek on February 17, 2017, 06:43

Taliking about his food stills and cityscapes! I thought you understood that.

Indeed he has a very good portfolio and I like it a lot. The general point I'm making is that not everything in any categories now being uploaded is rubbish. I wouldn't discount the possibility that someone has taken a look at the best sellers and produced work to compete with them. Its only a "conspiracy" theory I know but to me is as credible as SS hiding its best images from customers. In any event the point remains you can change where and what you upload but it is very unlikely you will change SS's search engine policy.

niktol · « **Reply #39 on:** February 17, 2017, 06:50 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on February 17, 2017, 01:35

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 16, 2017, 18:35
Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 16, 2017, 14:14
blaming low sales on the new dashboard? thought I heard it all
The last thing people look at is their own work which is kind of ironic as its the only thing they can change
But I've got the same 6,000 files today as I had in December. I don't think their quality has changed. Still, I suppose it's just a strange coincidence as I can't see any search change.

For several years now I have seen drops in SS sales in January to completely recover by summer. For me, it's seasonal. For you, I don't know.

Nikovsk · « **Reply #40 on:** February 17, 2017, 06:52 »

The new earnings page is horrible to visualize sales.
Very inefficient as you have to click and scroll multiple times just to see what have you sold each day.
And not listed in order of upload, so you can't easily see which new files are selling.

Artist · « **Reply #41 on:** February 17, 2017, 07:14 »

Quote from: Nikovsk on February 17, 2017, 06:52

The new earnings page is horrible to visualize sales.
Very inefficient as you have to click and scroll multiple times just to see what have you sold each day.
And not listed in order of upload, so you can't easily see which new files are selling.

+1, there is nothing so excitement of the new page. I wish they revert back to the original.

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