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totony



« on: February 01, 2009, 05:50 »
Hello, in case you take photos of yourself (timer or remote shutter) and want to sell them, can you sign a model release with you as a photographer AND model ?
Sounds silly, but without a model release the photo wouldn't get accepted. Or would it if you mention that in the "remark for reviewer" field ? (this field is not present in all site, however...)


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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 05:54 »
yes you need to sign as photographer and as model; and you still need a witness as usual.


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crazychristina


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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 05:58 »
A release protects you from being sued by some person claiming (untruthfully) that the image is of them and you didn't have their permission. Hence the need for a witness. Without it it's just your word against theirs.


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totony



« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 06:02 »
Thanks a lot !
I don't intend to do it regularly, but I wanna test my new "strobist like" setup before shooting models. Even with friends, I don't wanna fiddle for an hour with balancing those lights. So if I can make it productive, it's even better.
I guess it also helps to be in front of the camera for a change, to understand how it feels like for the people you shoot ;-)


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anton9



« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 08:34 »
Can you imagine someone trying to sue claiming to be the person in the picture when its of yourself. Youd almost want to laugh at them wouldnt you lol


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tan510jomast


« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 09:14 »
Quote from: anton9 on February 01, 2009, 08:34
Can you imagine someone trying to sue claiming to be the person in the picture when its of yourself. Youd almost want to laugh at them wouldnt you lol

I like that ! Would be hilarious. Someone claiming that it is possible that there is another person as good looking as me , totony or you anton9  Grin Grin Grin
Seriously, I do find that interesting.
I, tan510, consented to being photographed by tan510. almost redundant. And the buyer will inspect closely asking the question, " Well, I don't know, you think he looks like the same person as the guy in his profile picture? " Grin
« Last Edit: February 01, 2009, 09:20 by tan510jomast »
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totony



« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 11:23 »
Yeah, tan doesn't look as fruity as in his profile picture ;-)

I'm actually in the middle the shoot. I'm very happy with it, good practice. Three toys, oops, sorry, strobes, some gels over black and now white backgrounds.
My girlfriend is here too, so I don't have to shoot myself. I might continue on my own later on, though !

While I'm at it, I'll shoot some isolated objects over white background. First time ever. Hope result will be usable for my third SS application on the 6th, they seem to like that stuff, and I have none.


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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 11:35 »
Quote from: averil on February 01, 2009, 05:58
A release protects you from being sued by some person claiming (untruthfully) that the image is of them and you didn't have their permission. Hence the need for a witness. Without it it's just your word against theirs.

I think there are many legal precedents that makes the above statement regarding witnesses untrue. I'm sure some lawyer decided a witness would be a good idea and now every body stands up and tells you this is an absolute, but it certainly is not. Getty and Corbis have run for years on releases with no witness. You can bet that they both consulted lawyers in this regard. The many agencies they purchased over the years have all run on release with no witness. I believe legal challenges have been made during that time and I don't think a court ever threw out a release because of lack of witness.

Peter


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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 11:39 »
Quote from: MikLav on February 01, 2009, 05:54
yes you need to sign as photographer and as model; and you still need a witness as usual.

Not me! I photographed myself while looking into a mirror so I actually got to see the photograph being taken by me, so I could sign as a witness, cuz I was!

If you all bought that I have a bridge for sale. You could set up a tool booth and get richer than shooting dirt!

-Larry


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tan510jomast


« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2009, 16:03 »
Quote from: Lcjtripod on February 01, 2009, 11:39
Quote from: MikLav on February 01, 2009, 05:54
yes you need to sign as photographer and as model; and you still need a witness as usual.

Not me! I photographed myself while looking into a mirror so I actually got to see the photograph being taken by me, so I could sign as a witness, cuz I was!

If you all bought that I have a bridge for sale. You could set up a tool booth and get richer than shooting dirt!

-Larry

Larry, if ever you bomb as a stock photographer, you can always do stand-up comedy. I will be your first audience. Cheesy

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lephotography


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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 02:30 »
It is just in case you want to sue yourself later.  Grin


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Jasenka

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 02:48 »
And in some countries if the people go to court over such things you need to have 2 witnesses, one is not enough.


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tan510jomast


« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 12:26 »
Quote from: lephotography on February 02, 2009, 02:30
It is just in case you want to sue yourself later.  Grin

ha!ha!.. hey, that's a good way to make an extra few million bucks.

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