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Topic: WARNING: LOTS OF STOLEN IMAGES trollada DOT cOM  

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corareed
« on: November 20, 2011, 16:56 »

trollada dot com

Check and see if you see your stuff.  I found a bunch from CC and a TON of other agencies.


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bhr

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 17:05 »

by sharing these sorts of links you potentially improve the SEO of these sites. By sharing these links in public you help to promote them.
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corareed
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 17:10 »

By doing this, more people send cease and desist notices in hopes of getting them shut down sooner.  But posting, I am trying to help my community.

You say tomato, I say tomato.


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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 17:16 »

By doing this, more people send cease and desist notices in hopes of getting them shut down sooner.  But posting, I am trying to help my community.

You say tomato, I say tomato

but these are hotlinked images aren't they? Is that site even hosting anything ?

If so then the cease and desist notices would be meaningless wouldn't they ?


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corareed
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 17:23 »

No.  They are not hot linked.

http://www.trollada.com/imagem/earth-burst-artistic-design-download-exclusive-royalty-free-.../aHR0cDovL3dhdGVybWFya2VkLmN1dGNhc3Rlci5jb20vOTAxMjA2ODg4LWVhcnRoLWJ1cnN0LWFydGlzdGljLWRlc2lnbi5qcGc

Yes, copyright law, especially international law is complex.  Personally, I start with the site, then the host, then the agency in that country which handles copyright.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I think you might feel a bit less nonchalant if it was your work being ripped off....oh yeah, and it's my job to actually be proactive in these matters. 


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bhr

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 17:25 »

I think you might feel a bit less nonchalant if it was your work being ripped off....oh yeah, and it's my job to actually be proactive in these matters. 

My work is on that site which is partly why it annoys me you promoting it.


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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 17:48 »

I had one image "hot-linked" there ( to CS ). After contact them, host, etc ( DMCA ), as last resort, image was removed from agency ( after a talk with Duncan,  thanks for the fast and good support so far ).

I even open a topic about it, and have not seen much worries about...

In my opinion, it's better reporting them, to allow us know whenever our work isn't licensed.


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cclapper
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 20:22 »

No.  They are not hot linked.

http://www.trollada.com/imagem/earth-burst-artistic-design-download-exclusive-royalty-free-.../aHR0cDovL3dhdGVybWFya2VkLmN1dGNhc3Rlci5jb20vOTAxMjA2ODg4LWVhcnRoLWJ1cnN0LWFydGlzdGljLWRlc2lnbi5qcGc

Yes, copyright law, especially international law is complex.  Personally, I start with the site, then the host, then the agency in that country which handles copyright.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I think you might feel a bit less nonchalant if it was your work being ripped off....oh yeah, and it's my job to actually be proactive in these matters. 


Thanks for posting this. I will take a look.


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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 22:40 »

You say tomato, I say tomato.
Message bodies on the MSG are picked up by Google and count as incoming links. You can avoid it by posting site [dot] com. People can still type the site in their browser URL field but the link doesn't count. Thanks for mentioning. How's cutcaster [dot] com?  Tongue


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CD123



« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 04:50 »

by sharing these sorts of links you potentially improve the CEO of these sites. By sharing these links in public you help to promote them.

Ostriches does the same, the press their heads in holes and pretend the problem is not there. Thank you Cora for pointing this site out to us so that, if necessary and possible, we can react and try and protect our interests.
PS The few hits from your link in this forum will not even make a dent on the ranking of this site.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 05:02 »

No.  They are not hot linked.

http://www.trollada.com/imagem/earth-burst-artistic-design-download-exclusive-royalty-free-.../aHR0cDovL3dhdGVybWFya2VkLmN1dGNhc3Rlci5jb20vOTAxMjA2ODg4LWVhcnRoLWJ1cnN0LWFydGlzdGljLWRlc2lnbi5qcGc

Yes, copyright law, especially international law is complex.  Personally, I start with the site, then the host, then the agency in that country which handles copyright.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I think you might feel a bit less nonchalant if it was your work being ripped off....oh yeah, and it's my job to actually be proactive in these matters. 


It is really nice an agency take a proactive view!


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bhr

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 05:14 »

No nothing to do with ostriches.

Rather than promoting these sites by sharing links to them it would potentially be far more useful if agencies took a genuinely proactive role by quietly put their enforcement and legal teams to work on having copyrighted work removed where possible. Including where appropriate working in concert with their friends and industry colleagues at other companies. These are industry level issues and not something which should be tackled by the individual.

That is part of the role of agencies - to represent their business and therefore also the artists. IMO it is also potentially counter productive, in general, to encourage the idea that artists should send out "cease and desist" notices. That should be the job of the agencies - where it is deemed that there is any useful purpose.

There is IMO also a problem, in general, with artists who are not legal experts being encouraged to get involved in this sort of thing - which is that sooner or later legitimate users end up receiving nasty letters from increasingly disparate and random sources claiming to own or represent content. Remember that delibate pirates actually don't care if they get a "cease and desist" anyhow.


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rubyroo



« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 05:23 »

I TOTALLY agree with that, Bunhill.

I find it really odd that contributors should have to deal with this at all.  Wouldn't the agencies rather we be busy creating images than running around like blue-arsed flies trying to track illegitimate usage? 

As you say, all the legal nouse is on the side of the agency.  This should be their department entirely, and yes, the industry should pull the same way and act collectively.  I couldn't agree more. 


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CD123



« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 06:51 »

You might have noticed that Cora did post this in a general forum and not their own Cutcuster forum. I therefore assume that this was a general warning to all (not only Cutcuster contributors) to check for potential theft of their images.

I totally agree that the agencies have the duty to react to this, but I also acknowledges the extra effort by Cutcuster to put a general warning out to all about this infringing site, so if you find your images from another agency you can warn them.

There is a lot of talk on the forums about contributors standing together, if this is Cutcusters contribution to all (including agencies) pulling their strengths together against piracy, it needs to be applauded.
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rubyroo



« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 07:12 »

Ah yes.  Great point CD123.  Sorry for oversight.  Thank you for drawing attention to this Cora.   Grin

It'd be good to have a thread here for 'Agency Alerts' or something.  Somewhere the agencies can direct their compliance teams towards for a daily check on dodgy sites that THEY can follow up on.  

(Gotta have a system...)

Perhaps if we were to centralise information here in a way that's easy for them to find, it will help them to help us (and themselves, ultimately).
« Last Edit: November 21, 2011, 07:22 by rubyroo »

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Microbius
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 10:37 »

Site has Google Ads up, if you see your work please DMCA and inform Google of the rules violation
Please also DMCA the web host
If do not know how to do this/ what this means please look it up in this forum or elsewhere -- the DMCA is NOT sent to the people running the site so how much they care isn't all that relevant
If you recognize anyone else's work please let them know
If you can't be bothered to take a couple of minutes to do this to safeguard your work then please don't bother complaining about it being stolen
OP please break the link as others here have suggested and thanks for letting us know


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CoisaX


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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 10:59 »

Against that site i've done DMCA to web host ( Brazilian ) and think that was against this site that i inform google: nothing happens.


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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 16:26 »

http://www.trollada.com/

Check and see if you see your stuff.  I found a bunch from CC and a TON of other agencies.


Maybe you can just spell out the URL. Example: trollada dot com. These sites thrive off of backlinks and referrals from forums. That way you can alert us to the evil, without feeding the devil.

 Just a suggestion.  Grin


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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 17:31 »

I see one of my best sellers there. Not sure what I can do about it. I don't even speak the same language as used on the site.


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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 18:14 »

I see one of my best sellers there. Not sure what I can do about it. I don't even speak the same language as used on the site.


See if hot-linked. Talk with agency I try remove and re-submit it.


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Microbius
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 04:35 »

I see one of my best sellers there. Not sure what I can do about it. I don't even speak the same language as used on the site.

click "Anúncios Google", or hover the "i" on the ads then click. It's all in English from there.
Report the copyright violation and DMCA Google.
The people running these sites aren't stupid, if we make it not financially viable to spend all that time with ads down or fixing links then they'll move onto stealing something else.


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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2011, 14:01 »

After wasting another hour trying to find some Google "violation report" mechanism I decided not to waste any more time fighting theft. It just reinforces my belief that all images anywhere on the internet will eventually be available for use without compensation.


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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2011, 14:23 »

After wasting another hour trying to find some Google "violation report" mechanism I decided not to waste any more time fighting theft. It just reinforces my belief that all images anywhere on the internet will eventually be available for use without compensation.

We just need to help each other out. Those who know how to do it, just do it. Those who don't, just ask for help. When I get a chance, I've been reporting for others whether they know it or not.


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CD123



« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2011, 14:41 »

After wasting another hour trying to find some Google "violation report" mechanism I decided not to waste any more time fighting theft. It just reinforces my belief that all images anywhere on the internet will eventually be available for use without compensation.
Congratulations, with your new found insight you are now eligible to become a property owner in South Africa.  Grin


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rubyroo



« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2011, 14:46 »

We just need to help each other out. Those who know how to do it, just do it. Those who don't, just ask for help. When I get a chance, I've been reporting for others whether they know it or not.

That is one of the loveliest posts I've ever read here.  Thank you SO much for that.  I've given you a heart for that one Smiley


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