Author Topic: Website with web design templates (Read 2841 times)

donding · « **on:** March 04, 2010, 22:27 »

I posted this in another thread where it didn't really belong, but for those of you that don't have a website and are interested in designing your own, go check out jalbum. It has free templates on there that you can use to design your webpages and it's free so it doesn't cost you nothing. All you need is a little knowledge on web design. I use it my website and really like it. They have alot to choose from and have some good looking designs.

www.jalbum.net

you can click on the download button on the top and it will show two links. Go to the "Skins" link to see what they have.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2010, 23:16 »

Yes, there is also www.weebly.com
It's very intuitive, easy and free.

borg · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2010, 06:41 »

Here is probably the best site for buying and selling excellent web templates:

http://themeforest.net?ref=darius9000

Here is my friend's ref link with his templates, he is expert for web design...

http://themeforest.net/user/darius9000/portfolio?ref=darius9000

UncleGene · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2010, 10:39 »

Wix.com (http://www.wix.com/photographer/website) - inexpensive (has free option), nice designs, good interface (web editing)

donding · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2010, 10:57 »

I'll have to go check all those out. I need to redo my two year old website. I've always used jalbum because of the application software that comes with, it makes it easy for me to use the skin I want and then add it to my web pages. I'm gonna go check out these others.

nialat · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2010, 17:15 »

Thanks for the links, some are really interesting. I'm starting to look for putting up my own web site.

If anybody knows of places to buy good templates for photographer sites I would highly appreciate.

I'm looking for something that looks professional, that is fully and easily customizable, also, if there is a setup to upload customer pictures in private sections it would be a nice bonus.

PS I already have a domain name and hosting service with lots and lots of room

Thanks

donding · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2010, 17:26 »

I haven't had a chance to look at the other sites yet, but jalbum has what they call sins and they are free to download and use with their software. Most of te skins are geared towards photographers. I create the setting for the skin I want on the software that they provide with the skins, then put them into Frontpage and add and change whatever I want to with it, then upload them to the server.

Here is my webpage so you can get an idea of what you can do with it. The skin I used wasthe cameline...I think that's how it is spelled. Anyway don't make fun of my site because I haven't even messed with it in over two years. It will giveyou some idea of what you can do.

www.donnabeeler.net

nialat · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2010, 17:52 »

I definitly will have to get a better look at www.jalbum.net

Thanks

donding · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2010, 18:05 »

Quote from: nialat on March 05, 2010, 17:52

I definitly will have to get a better look at www.jalbum.net

Thanks

They have alot of different type "skins" as they call them. When you are on the main page at the top there is a download buttom. There are two links up there. One is for the software itself and the other is to the skins. Thats where you can go and see how these skins look. The site has changed so it's a little harder to navigate now.

donding · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2010, 20:58 »

Don't want to dwell on the jalbum site that much, but the Chameleon skin that I used on my site...I believe at the time it was the only one that you could set the option of no "save as" on the photos. That way somebody can't go on there and right click and "borrow" your photos. They may have more skins that do that now, but at the time it was the only one, which was a feature I wanted.

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2010, 21:30 »

Sorry, your images can be "borrowed" from any site, one way or the other.

UncleGene · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2010, 22:10 »

Quote from: cuppacoffee on March 05, 2010, 21:30

Sorry, your images can be "borrowed" from any site, one way or the other.

Confirming. Looks like nobody invests in proper protection (though it is possible)

donding · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2010, 22:28 »

Quote from: cuppacoffee on March 05, 2010, 21:30

Sorry, your images can be "borrowed" from any site, one way or the other.

Did you get that off my website? or somewhere else?
I just went to my website and the only ones I can "save as" are the thumbnails. The main photos in the scroll you can't "save as" only "save link as" or "copy link location" with a right click.
Maybe you know something I don't...can you explain?

Brandon Seidel · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2010, 22:30 »

You can use printscreen on your keyboard and paste it into a photo editor.

donding · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2010, 22:39 »

Quote from: Brandon Seidel on March 05, 2010, 22:30

You can use printscreen on your keyboard and paste it into a photo editor.

Thanks Brandon.....I didn't know that....see I learn something new everyday..

Brandon Seidel · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2010, 22:44 »

np

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2010, 00:14 »

I was able to download your image, not your thumbnail. And, it is not a screen shot. You can grab images quite easily directly through Firefox by digging deep into their Media features and doing a Save As. It is possible to download and save all the file elements, including images, on any web page. Sites that implement a "disable right click" feature only prevent amateurs from stealing images and give a false sense of security.

Unfortunately, image theft via the Internet is a fact of life.

Despite all the programs out there promising to protect your images there is no effective way of preventing image theft. There are programs you can purchase that promise image safety. They say they can protect your images, but include language similar to, "will make image theft NEARLY impossible." They never guarantee 100%. If you are worried that your images might be stolen, don't post them anywhere on the Internet, or slap a big watermark on them (watermarks can be removed with a little photoshop expertise).

If an image is displayed on a screen, a simple screen capture can grab it, and there is absolutely no way for a website to prevent that. Screen shots are not of the highest quality but there are programs that can improve their quality. Technically it is impossible to protect web images from being lifted since most newer browsers first download a copy of the entire website (text and images) from the Internet to the computer's local cache before rendering. With a smidgeon of technical expertise, cache files can be dragged from the computer into a browser window to resurrect content. Images are removed from the computer only when the cache is cleared.

There are tricks that web designers can employ to make it slightly less convenient for the novice to copy images, but with a little investigation on "how to steal a web image" (over 1,420,000 results on Google) it might end up taking five clicks instead of two to grab an image.

Again, some webmasters disable right click on their web pages by adding HTML/CSS/JavaScript protection into the coding of the page so that visitors can't easily access the "Save Image As" command but that trick can be easily defeated by disabling Javascript.

Disabling right mouse click will not stop web theft. A visitor browsing with Firefox can right click elsewhere on the page (I won't tell you exactly where), select page info, click the Media tab, and there is a list of all the images on the web page, complete with a Save As button. There are several Firebox plug-ins that make it even easier to download everything on a web page.

Adding a transparent gif over the top of an image, or embedding images in flash files, does not stop screen capture programs and the saving of entire web pages. An image map can slice your image into pieces but, again, the sliced images can be saved as a whole using any screen capture program (screen shot). All these tricks do is slow the page loads, and create more useless traffic flowing from the server. Implementing them is a waste of time and effort. These methods give image owners a false sense of security, but that's all.

I posted your image not to prove that you were wrong but to make you aware of the possibilities of image theft no matter what a site might promise.

donding · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2010, 10:49 »

Thanks cuppacoffee...I wasn't upset with you...just wished you'd chose a better image off that two year old site...

That one is horrible... anyway I didn't even realize that you could do that. When I redo my website...hopefully within the next ten years....I'll look at the appearance of the skin, more than just the features. Thanks for letting me know that.

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2010, 11:02 »

Ha! Not a problem, I know you were not mad. I love sunflowers so chose that image because it made me feel like Spring might be on the way. It's dreary here in the Midwest.

Colette · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2010, 15:24 »

Yes, this can be done, I know.
But you can only download the webversions of the images, can you? Because that is the only image that can be found on the website.
And by up-scaling them you can never get the quality of the original image.

So who cares if children use them for their schoolwork? Or something like that?
I have seen such images downloaded and used for desktopimage stretched out over the whole screen!
And they are used to make sentimental stories with text and music in Powerpoint and then send them over the internet to tell everyone to be ..... or to do .....or to show ..... (fill out on the lines what you like). ;-)

cuppacoffee · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2010, 16:18 »

Click on the image above to see how big it is, not exactly "web size." You can find many large images on websites if you know how to go behind the scenes. Are you saying that you think it is ok to steal an image off the web as long as you only steal a small web version and use it for personal projects? Do you think it is ok for others to download your images as long as they only download the thumbnails? It isn't right, those images are copyrighted! I can't believe you said that!!!!!!

Colette · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2010, 16:42 »

No, I don't say it's OK, but there's nothing that can be done against it as far as I know.
Only not publishing your images on the web.
When I decided to put my images on the web, I knew about the risks.
For people with no much knowhow they can not easy be downloaded and why should someone who has the knowledge of getting images the way you described care about images of such a low quality?
So why should I care? I knew what can happen, but are not able to do anything against that. There are more important things when I want to spent my time.

When I put an image on my website, it's 700 pixels on the longest site, or 850 when it's a pano. And 72 dpi.
What can be done to make that a 10 mp image with 300 dpi again?
I know about programs that can upscale images, I know Photoshop can do, but in these images there's so much info lost that it can never become an image of reasonable quality again.
Or do I miss something?

donding · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2010, 18:46 »

I think next time I'll put a great big tattoo in the middle of it rather than at the bottom...

That is a small file with low resolution...but I could see where someone would still be able to use it. Like you said Colette, the only way to prevent theft is don't put them on the internet. Thanks to these guys, I never realized the ease of copying them.

Colette · « **Reply #23 on:** March 08, 2010, 05:04 »

Yes, you can try to do so.
But, like cuppacoffee said, this can easily be removed with Photoshop.
And people who visit your website because they are interested in your photos, become irritated about your big tattoos and go elsewhere!
They come to see photos and see only tattoos! No win/win situation!

I have done my thinking about this and decided not to publish anything on the web or publish and not to complain about theft.
Don't publish too big images and don't use a high dpi. Use a watermark but don't put it too prominently in your image.
When you see your images used in an illegal way: see it as free publicity and went on to do your doings. Until the time there will be a worldwide photographers union to help protect your rights there's nothing else that can be done.
For what it's worth this is the best advise I can give.

And about your website: a friend of mine has a website (that is build for him by a company) to promote his business.
It is completely copied. Everything! And the person who stole it published it with the brand name of his own company in it.
Exactly the same website including all the colors, fonts, photos etc. He is ignoring all the letters about this. It is in the same country, so my friend propably could start a lawsuit. Which will cost him a lot time and money. Of course he will win and then he can start the next lawsuit for the next thief. He decided to went on with his business. (We do not have big claims her like in the US to avoid people from doing this kind of things, perhaps that makes a difference too).

Of course it's all wrong and of course it's theft. But what can you do except not complaining?

donding · « **Reply #24 on:** March 08, 2010, 11:10 »

I was only joking about the big tattoo

. If you notice the sunflower at the top of the page has a watermark at the bottom of the photo. I don't get enough traffic on that site to worry about it and most of the photos on there are old. They are also low resolution so that helps. You can right click and save as on all the stock sites to so it doesn't make any difference.