The majority are still selling their images for $1 a pop on DPC, but we have no way of knowing whether that's because they're willing or happy to do so. The majority of contributors to DPC are probably still unaware that their images are sold there. It's entirely possible that the majority would opt out if they knew. You don't see Fotolia sending a mass email to all contributors informing them that their images are now on DPC and offering them the option to opt out. Instead they dangle little carrots and make opting out as difficult and hidden as possible.

I think the only reason they offered the opt out is their fear that most people would leave Fotolia entirely if not given that option.

Action speaks louder then forum crying. Agency won't change until we make them change. If people complain but do nothing to change, they should just shut up.

Quote from: cthoman on June 09, 2014, 16:40

Quote from: Batman on June 09, 2014, 16:17

Action speaks louder then forum crying. Agency won't change until we make them change. If people complain but do nothing to change, they should just shut up.

I hear this a lot, but what is considered doing something?

You honestly had to ask?

Drop all agencies that lie, cheat and steal. Drop all that have pseudo sites that they own or run or are hiding partners. Do not tell sites that you are a cheerful victim who wants to be cheated and lied to and that you are willing to work for them for pennies.

The way it got to this way was agencies dropped commission. Agency changed level, referral and bonus. Agency added new impossible levels and RC. Nobody did anything. Agency adds new ways to sell without permission and cheats us, hides truth. Nobody does anything.

When agency says, we will include allowing option out, people claim it's a victory. Kind of victory, when they are still lying, cheating and stealing, but feel good, you can option out of some part.

When the problem started was low pay and people said we'll make it up by selling on 10 agencies for poor pay to make up for low pay. Then agencies see they can pay nothing and get good images. Agency lowers pay and nobody does anything, they still sell and work for nothing. Now it becomes race to the bottom. Agency makes more we make less. They look for new ways to cheat us out of a fair share.

Agency says, we can keep lowering pay and cheating these people because artists need the money and won't do anything to change the way we abuse them. The artists are beggars and down at heel. We'll take hand outs instead of what we rightfully deserve.

You want the answer again? Drop all agencies that lie, cheat and steal. Or take the abuse and be a willing victim. But don't complain about being a victim when it's a choice.

It's also called, put up or shut up.

Quote from: cthoman on June 09, 2014, 16:40

I hear this a lot, but what is considered doing something?

You honestly had to ask?

Drop all agencies that lie, cheat and steal. Drop all that have pseudo sites that they own or run or are hiding partners. ..... (etc. blah blah blah)