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« on: November 05, 2016, 08:35 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel


« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 11:06 »
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Manuel, ProRes422 is very good but can create some huge files from 4k. It depends on your hardware resources. There is nothing to set for ProRes. H.264 is also very good exported from PP and the file sizes are much easier to deal with.  Do strip off the audio in both cases. Create a preset in Media Encoder to send your clips to. It speeds up the process.
It sounds like you have some great footage. Consider adding overflightstock.com to agency uploads.
Cheers,
Peter
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 11:16 by PeterChigmaroff »

« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 11:55 »
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Manuel, ProRes422 is very good but can create some huge files from 4k. It depends on your hardware resources. There is nothing to set for ProRes. H.264 is also very good exported from PP and the file sizes are much easier to deal with.  Do strip off the audio in both cases. Create a preset in Media Encoder to send your clips to. It speeds up the process.
It sounds like you have some great footage. Consider adding overflightstock.com to agency uploads.
Cheers,
Peter
Dear Peter. Thank you so much.
I will try  overflightstock too.
Cheers,
Manuel

alno

« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 12:31 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.

« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2016, 13:12 »
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Manuel, ProRes422 is very good but can create some huge files from 4k. It depends on your hardware resources. There is nothing to set for ProRes. H.264 is also very good exported from PP and the file sizes are much easier to deal with.  Do strip off the audio in both cases. Create a preset in Media Encoder to send your clips to. It speeds up the process.
It sounds like you have some great footage. Consider adding overflightstock.com to agency uploads.
Cheers,
Peter
Dear Peter. Thank you so much.
I will try  overflightstock too.
Cheers,
Manuel
Thanks Manuel

« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 15:04 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.
Thank you so much Irina.
Have a nice evening.
Best regards,
Manuel

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 23:14 »
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I use Prores HQ which seems to be the editors choice if they need to do any further color correcting or color grading.  I started with Prores 422 and tried Photo-JPEG but want to provide the highest quality for whoever is buying my clips.  I've done some research on this and most professional editors want Prores HQ to maintain the highest quality through any further correcting.  Anything less gets a more grain when stretching those highlights and shadows.  I'm sure there will plenty of people saying this is not necessary and it makes the file size too big, but I feel good about providing the best quality.

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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2016, 00:11 »
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Keep im mind that the 'best' export setting might not necessarily be what certain stock sites accept. Always double check what the site in question will accept, but I usually go for QuickTime PhotoJPEG at 90% quality. If the file is too big then I might go down to 75% or cut the duration slightly.

alno

« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2016, 02:29 »
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Keep im mind that the 'best' export setting might not necessarily be what certain stock sites accept. Always double check what the site in question will accept, but I usually go for QuickTime PhotoJPEG at 90% quality. If the file is too big then I might go down to 75% or cut the duration slightly.

I thought about that in some rare cases some small studio or individual might choose another similar file just because it's smaller. In certain cases 3 Gb is quite a challenge I guess.

alno

« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2016, 02:33 »
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I use Prores HQ which seems to be the editors choice if they need to do any further color correcting or color grading.  I started with Prores 422 and tried Photo-JPEG but want to provide the highest quality for whoever is buying my clips.  I've done some research on this and most professional editors want Prores HQ to maintain the highest quality through any further correcting.  Anything less gets a more grain when stretching those highlights and shadows.  I'm sure there will plenty of people saying this is not necessary and it makes the file size too big, but I feel good about providing the best quality.

I'm not a tech but isn't it supposed your camera can shoot raw or ProRes in order to make any further "honest" ProRes files?

Tyson Anderson

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2016, 14:05 »
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I'm not a tech but isn't it supposed your camera can shoot raw or ProRes in order to make any further "honest" ProRes files?
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I'm not all that tech savvy either but I have read in creativecow and other forums where professional editors would much rather have Prores HQ than Proress 422 if they need to make further color/lighting changes.  They had explained that it doesn't matter what camera a clip is shot with.  They stated that they can't stand it if they have to do further manipulation to a file that has been exported at Prores 422.  Apparently Prores HQ shows less grain when stretching highlights and shadows.  I shoot raw with my Panasonic GH4 using the Vlog L upgrade providing 2 extra stops of dynamic range.  Again I'm no tech either so I'm not sure if I'm still exporting at a higher quality file than needed.  But in my opinion, appealing to editors is kinda the name of the game so I'm willing to deal with the bigger file sizes.

« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2016, 17:46 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.
Thank you, work fine with pond5. I tried a test upload with adobe stock (through bridge), but the program rejected the file saying that the file format was not correct.

alno

« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 02:10 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.
Thank you, work fine with pond5. I tried a test upload with adobe stock (through bridge), but the program rejected the file saying that the file format was not correct.

Sounds strange... Try to upload via FTP. Fotolia surely accepts this format. I guess they have the same standards.

« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 07:50 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.
Thank you, work fine with pond5. I tried a test upload with adobe stock (through bridge), but the program rejected the file saying that the file format was not correct.

Sounds strange... Try to upload via FTP. Fotolia surely accepts this format. I guess they have the same standards.
Yes, via ftp work well, only with Adobe Bridge doesn't work.
Have a nice day.

« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2016, 05:55 »
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Have had a strange experience working with after effects with 4k files. When i export using quicktime and h264 i get a 2000X2000 file. I think this is a codec limitation. But then what other ways do i have of getting a 4k compressed file from after effects?

Btw magix editor pro outputs h264 .mp4 files perfectly.

« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 00:40 »
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Hello, I'am a swiss director who has some Switzerland related footage, turned with a Gh4 and an Inspire 1 drone.
I would upload the files but I have to trim the footage.
Can someone suggest me the best export setting for uploading on pond5 and videoblock?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Manuel

Me and my husband using these 4K export presets in Premiere Pro, they are accepted by all stock sites I know (except Istock but they doesn't worth much of your attention). I guess the settings are pretty much the same to Premiere CC.


Irina
The screen shot yu uploaded is really thoughtful but is there any chance that you could up load a higher res file when I look at it I am unable to read any of the detail.
Really appreciate your sharing.

I am a Newbie to Video.

David May

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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 00:41 »
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Just use Photo JPEG, it's a better quality codec, more widely accepted, and allows 4K output.

« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2017, 06:32 »
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Just use Photo JPEG, it's a better quality codec, more widely accepted, and allows 4K output.

I had been using Photo JPEG for a while, then I changed to h.264 and not just the files I smaller, but the quality is way better. With Photo JPEG it was very common that an awful gradient banding appears in the sky even when the quality is set to 100%. With h.264 the banding is gone.

« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2017, 21:38 »
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What settings are you using for exporting h264
Bitrate
Max bitrate


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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2017, 05:35 »
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What settings are you using for exporting h264
Bitrate
Max bitrate


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I usually set the bitrate around 150 mbps
other settings match the original footage

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2017, 05:28 »
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What settings are you using for exporting h264
Bitrate
Max bitrate


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Sounds like you're outputting mp4 rather than mov. If you use QuickTime H.264, it does it for you. You might be able to override it though, I forget.

« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2017, 12:59 »
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For some reason my Adobe encoder does not even show quicktime h264

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2017, 11:38 »
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Imo H264 is a much maligned codec, primarily because it's so easily abused...

In my experience (freelance director/producer/editor + over 2000 stock videos and animations) I've found that H264 done to broadcast intermediate standard is the best you can get out of an 8bit codec... But be prepared for some pretty large file sizes if your footage contains a lot of detail. 500+ MB is not uncommon for a 20sec HD video clip.

(Broadcast intermediate = 100% quality, no interframes)


 

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