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« on: March 05, 2018, 12:09 »
Hi all - wrote up a quick report on my progress in February.

$575 from just P5 and SS.

More info can be found in my signature link if youre interested.

Would appreciate any advice, insights, critique, etc.

« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2018, 16:48 »
Do you have a question? I dont get it. Is this to draw us to your blog or something?

« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 17:04 »
Yes, but people liking seeing how other people do. It sometimes helps give them encouragement, ideas on where to submit to, etc, etc.


« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2018, 17:12 »
Have you done much experimenting with lowering or raising your pricing?...any insights?

« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2018, 17:57 »
Do you have a question? I dont get it. Is this to draw us to your blog or something?

Stop being a hater.  Please!


« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 15:52 »
Do you have a question? I dont get it. Is this to draw us to your blog or something?

When I started out in stock I found James Orlowski's updates and those of contributors like backyardsilver really valuable. Don't think I would have earned what I have without them.

Not sure I see what the issue is, but open to feedback.


« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 15:56 »
Have you done much experimenting with lowering or raising your pricing?...any insights?

Hey wds - I'm in the process of testing pricing right now at P5. I don't have a huge portfolio, so it might not come up with any real concrete conclusions, but could be helpful.

I lowered my prices a few weeks ago after keeping them steady for about a year and saw sales volume increase almost immediately, but this could have just been a coincidence.

I did actually write about this on my site a few weeks ago, since you ask. Although it seems like there might be some sensitivity here about mentioning that...

« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 16:20 »
I had a huge increase in volume when i split my portfolio into different price points, including an "outtakes" Lightbox with files that are cheap.

but sales increased for everything, I guess people look for the cheap stuff first, then dig around your portfolio for the rest.

When pond5 announced their membership collection with the 4 dollar files, my sales dropped, but are still better than from the days when I had everything at the same price point.

So I try to differentiate when I upload - ducks in the pond very cheap, paid people shootings expensive and everything else in between depending on how much work it was or how rare.

My February was the worst ever in video, I only had two sales on Videoblocks on the last day. It has never been so slow.

But I started to upload to blackbox, will try to split it a bit by content for the next few months, but if blackbox works as well as I think it will, then I will probably mostly upload there.

One downside is that I cant sort my files in themed galleries on pond5 and I do get series sales there.


And thank you for sharing, Ive put your report on my blog for those interested.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 16:25 by cobalt »

« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 16:36 »
What exactly do the good people at blackbox do? Upload your footage to all the sites you're already uploading to and take a nice 15% for the pleasure?

Genuine question, I probably missed something, but couldn't find much info on their website.


« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 16:50 »
Thanks for sharing Cobalt.

It never actually occurred to me to create tiered pricing, but makes total sense.

I am going to keep my current pricing for a few months to see if I can spot a really radical trend based on my last pricing change, but will then try what you've suggested.

Glad you found this info useful as well!

« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 16:50 »
Yes 15% for distribution, but they have other placements or rankings than you might have as a single artist. On Fotolia/Adobe for instance they are sapphire status which is much higher than mine. It will take me many, many years to reach that. So the 15% for Fotolia is nearly zero in real results for me.

I dont have sales yet, and obviously I dont know what deals they have negotiated exactly everyhwere. I have been uploading for 20 days, so I am really not expecting miracles.

The biggest drawback for me is that they are not (yet??)) connected to stockperformer. I have suggested it, so I hope it does come eventually.

They have a growing and lively community and building a community and sharing tips and tricks is very important to them.

And they offer excellent royalty sharing tools. If you want to work with editors for post production or want to work with actors or a location that otherwise might be too expensive, you can negotiate a royalty instead or offer a mix of royalty or cash or footage for their own use. In a next stage, they want to give people the possibility to license short films or documentaries is really intended for people in the movie world.

What I really like is that they strongly talk about money, how to build passive income for your life and they keep motivating you to upload to build passive income. They dont come from the "Oh, look you will get EXPOSURE" is clearly intended as a money building vehicle.

The place is new, I like it, people are responsive, you can write to them directly and will get personal answers. they have a mix of amateurs and pros, like everywhere. But they dont edit your series, they leave that to the agencies, which is good. Files are exclusive of course, but can be removed on request. they just ask not to abuse the option, because it is a lot of work removing files individually from several agencies.

They dont sell direct.

It has to work for you.

I find uploading to several places painful, plus I hope that a large portfolio that is fed regularly will always have better rankings than what I can do myself.

In a few months I will know more. We have all seen a lot of very well intentioned new places, but I like this one, so lets see where it takes me.

« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2018, 17:03 »
Thanks for the info.

I like to have full control, so it's not an option for me right now. And I have yet to see any evidence of portfolio rankings at any of the footage websites.

The community collaborations might be useful in the future, though.


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