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« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2016, 18:03 »
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I am a new contributor to GL and would like to upload via FTP. I do not not see the FTP Login and password in the uploads section where the Help info says it will be. Any direction on this would be appreciated.


« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2016, 12:29 »
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Doesn't really matter how it happened, the fact is many sites have tried one price for all sizes and have then changed to different prices for different sizes.  They must of done that because buyers have demanded it and I really don't see how GL can go against that tide when they are selling the same images.

The comparison with music doesn't work because that's not being used for business purposes, like most of out images are.  I doubt someone making a 5 second music clip for an advert would charge the same as a 1 minute clip.

The sites that I can think of off the top of my head have gone on to do worse after they made the switch (GL, iStock and Veer). Also, sites that added it like Shutterstock have tended to improve. From my experience, buyers will buy things that they want and aren't hugely concerned about prices. I'm sure some are, but there seem to be enough out there that aren't to not have to chase the bargain hunters. Those people have a home at pretty much every other agency anyway.

« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2016, 16:32 »
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I think the idea that a small 'web' sized image should cost less is just another unfortunate buyer expectation created by existing microstocks.   The photographer and the agency see the same costs.  The large 'print' image might be seen by 1000 people, the small 'web' image by 10,000.   So why the discount - are we selling content, or pixels?

When you buy music, you get the full fidelity tracks, maybe 192kbs or 256 kbs. You don't the option to pay a lower price for a scratchy 32kbs version just because you're only going to play it through cheap earbuds.   
Doesn't really matter how it happened, the fact is many sites have tried one price for all sizes and have then changed to different prices for different sizes.  They must of done that because buyers have demanded it and I really don't see how GL can go against that tide when they are selling the same images.

The comparison with music doesn't work because that's not being used for business purposes, like most of out images are.  I doubt someone making a 5 second music clip for an advert would charge the same as a 1 minute clip.


Sellers don't have to cave in to every discount request from buyers.   I'd like all the shirts at Macy's to be the same price, but it isn't going to happen.    That's because producers of those shirts have some control over their pricing.  As far as GL doing things differently, well, not every store has to be a Dollar Store, selling the same merchandise in the same way.   There are many ways to differentiate yourself in the market.    And maybe, eventually, they aren't selling "the same images".   SS will never get another photo from me, but GL will.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2016, 16:38 by stockastic »

« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2016, 18:56 »
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I am a new contributor to GL and would like to upload via FTP. I do not not see the FTP Login and password in the uploads section where the Help info says it will be. Any direction on this would be appreciated.

Hi Anthony, FTP access is currently unavailable.  We are working to bring this back ASAP.  We know this is something that many contributors want, so it is certainly a priority for us.  Bear with us, but in the meantime, you can certainly upload via our dashboard.  Thank you!

« Reply #129 on: August 15, 2016, 17:01 »
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I tried editing the price of an image but upon submitting/saving, it said:

"We're sorry, but something went wrong.

We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly."

Now the image in question seems to be unavailable, only the error message shows?

« Reply #130 on: August 15, 2016, 20:53 »
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I tried editing the price of an image but upon submitting/saving, it said:

"We're sorry, but something went wrong.

We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly."

Now the image in question seems to be unavailable, only the error message shows?

Hi Noedelhap,

Sorry for the inconvenience, this should be fixed.  Can you please try again?  If it isn't working, please PM me your account and we'll take a deeper look and get it sorted out right away.

Thanks!

« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2016, 21:03 »
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Doesn't really matter how it happened, the fact is many sites have tried one price for all sizes and have then changed to different prices for different sizes.  They must of done that because buyers have demanded it and I really don't see how GL can go against that tide when they are selling the same images...

Who went to one-price-for-all and then went back to per-size pricing? istock still does one price regardless of size. Have other companies really backpedaled on that move? Which ones?

I think this is a good move by GL. Pricing based on size is an old notion, one that should definitely go away. Ultimately people are buying a license. The number of pixels they get with that license shouldn't matter.

I could also be slightly biased on this, being a vector guy who rarely ever had the luxury of selling by size (minus a few exceptions).

« Reply #132 on: August 15, 2016, 21:38 »
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" think this is a good move by GL. Pricing based on size is an old notion, one that should definitely go away. Ultimately people are buying a license. The number of pixels they get with that license shouldn't matter. "

Well, as I've already said, pixel size does matter a bit and it's a way of tailoring a product to what the buyer wants.  For instance, I license/rent a movie from iTunes.  I don't need the HD version, so I'm glad they offer a SD version at a lower price.  It fits my needs.

« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2016, 23:57 »
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" think this is a good move by GL. Pricing based on size is an old notion, one that should definitely go away. Ultimately people are buying a license. The number of pixels they get with that license shouldn't matter. "

Well, as I've already said, pixel size does matter a bit and it's a way of tailoring a product to what the buyer wants.  For instance, I license/rent a movie from iTunes.  I don't need the HD version, so I'm glad they offer a SD version at a lower price.  It fits my needs.

It probably comes down to at some point vectors and photos should split. Some of the differences will probably never be agreed upon.

« Reply #134 on: August 16, 2016, 06:01 »
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I tried editing the price of an image but upon submitting/saving, it said:

"We're sorry, but something went wrong.

We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly."

Now the image in question seems to be unavailable, only the error message shows?

Hi Noedelhap,

Sorry for the inconvenience, this should be fixed.  Can you please try again?  If it isn't working, please PM me your account and we'll take a deeper look and get it sorted out right away.

Thanks!

Yes, it works again. Thanks!

« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2016, 08:40 »
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To GL,

I closed my account with you folks several months ago and doubt I'll try again.  But I wanted to say two things:

1. Glad you are making a renewed effort to build a better business. I wish you well on that.

2. Participating in the forums is very much appreciated by many of us contributors.  I would only suggest that your team continue communicating with us through these forums in a meaningful, honest manner.  The one thing that frustrates us the most is a company coming into MSG with all the right messaging then they go stealth and we never hear anything again. Like SS, for example. 

Best of luck and I can't wait until you turn on video and see what that system offers.

angelawaye

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« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2016, 08:48 »
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I really like the idea of setting my own prices, did I miss something? Pond 5 does it with video and I LOVE it!
If I could get $2 instead of .38 cents that would be very nice...

« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2016, 09:34 »
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Perhaps being able to set our own prices and choose if we want different prices for different sizes would keep us all happy?

« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2016, 10:09 »
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We appreciate all of the input regarding changes we've been making.  We understand that it is impossible to make every individual happy when making changes, however, change was necessary with GL which many have expressed, and we are excited about the immediate results.  Since opening up to contributors again, the amount of daily images being uploaded to GL has increased 5-fold within 2 weeks, and the pricing structure changes has been met with positivity for the most part.

@Mantis - Thank you for the kind words.  We are here to be honest with the members here about our business and what we are doing with it.  We are not trying to "say the right things", we are simply communicating, as we believe in communication.  I understand the skepticism: when you see something happen over and over, its easy to say it will happen again.  We prefer the open dialogue and coming from a different industry/background, you should expept a difference with us than you may be accustomed to with the larger agencies. While we wont be able to answer every single post in a public forum, we will do our best.  We will always respond to any emails or direct messages, but we are also working countless hours a day to not only improve the business, but also to operate it, which takes a great deal of time and resources.

@Sharpshot - while we understand this is a big change, there would be too many moving parts and inconsistency if given the option to price different sizes differently.  We ask that you bear with us and if you are a seller, give it a shot.  Being a smaller agency, the results of changes will not necessarily be immediate.  Things will take time for changes to show their results, however we are confident that sellers will earn more with our changes. 

As we've stated, and I know many members agree, we are in the business of facilitating the sale of licenses to reuse images.  So for the sake of the license, the size at which an image is downloaded should not affect the price of the license.

I think most people would agree that GL requires changes to improve and to help sellers earn more with GL.  If we left things how they were and didn't make changes, the comments would be different.  We have received many messages regarding the fact that many sellers have been earning less with GL, how sales have declined, etc., and that is the state in which we purchased GL. We are doing everything we can, as quickly as we can, to turn things around for our sellers, and inevitably for GL as a company.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2016, 10:41 by GraphicLeftovers »

« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2016, 10:31 »
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« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2016, 11:52 »
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I started uploading my portfolio in batches of 20 per day. Today my third batch all ended up on the invalid page. Is it a bug? I didn't upload yesterday, so I shouldn't be over the 20/day limit.

It would be helpful if you could provide a reason for putting it on the invalid page.  ;)

« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2016, 11:56 »
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One size fits all?  I'm not really sold on that.  It's a nice idea and makes the selling/buying experience more straight forward. 

Hypothetical:  what if I'm a small time blogger and want to write a post to my blog from my phone, I don't want to download a 32 mp photo to my phone.  I wouldn't want to post a huge photo to my blog, and the photographer wouldn't want me to either.  I happen to have Photoshop on my desktop, but it's a PIA to download, open in PS, resize, name, save.  Now I have 2 copies on my computer - not to mention my hard drive is red because I had to download 70 photos today and they are all so huge these days.

I know, it's a case of "what type of customer do I want?".  Of course you want the big corporations with graphic design and marketing departments and not the small time bloggers.

From my own selling experience - I have hundreds of released photos of dancers - but they are just not a huge money maker so I only upload a few here and there when I'm not so busy.  So, hardly worth my time UNTIL a bump during Recital/Competition Season and Fall Registration.  Even then - not a big money maker - the only L/XXL I sell are inside cheap subs so a majority of the sales are S/M.  The thing about dance schools is - 95% are owned by a woman who is passionate about dance and children.  She is artistic director, teacher, choreographer, social worker, front desk and marketing all rolled into one.  She lives a very modest life, because there is a limit to how much you can charge, how many kids fit in a classroom, how many days in a week.  Earnings fluctuate from year to year.  Why do I describe her?  Because every town has a dance school.  Some towns you can't drive down the street and throw a rock without hitting one.  I do know of a couple local schools with 1200 kids, most have 200-300 and only operate 9/10 months of the year.  Those studio owners are not paying a marketing team, like cleaning the toilet - they do it themselves.  Think about the age of their clients, the studio owner is slowly becoming aware of the importance of social media.  They have a limited budget and can't buy anything from a $15 site when the other site charges $4 for a web-ready size and get 3 or 4 photos for the same price.   Moral of the rambling story:  they are not a big buyer, but there happens to be a LOT of them.  You are excluding an entire niche of thousands of studio owners who buy twice a year and maybe make an attempt at social media.   I mention dance because it's a genre I have small experience in.  I'm certainly not the only photographer with a few dance photos so the agency might actually do pretty well twice a year from this genre.  What else is seasonal like this:  Obviously Christmas, but back-to-school (albeit, likely bigger budgets), little league, summer camp etc.  There's a lot of little seasonal genres you may exclude with XXL pricing - how much do they add up to in the course of a year?

But - what type of buyer are you looking for?   I would love to see data on who buyers actually are these days.  What is the balance of corporation vs the rest of the buyers.

« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2016, 11:57 »
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@GraphicLeftovers I appreciate your openness and desire to communicate with us. Your one price for every size works great for me and I look forward to uploading to GL again. The only thing I would wish for are some even higher price brackets like $50 or $99. Is that a possibility?

« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2016, 12:00 »
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Since opening up to contributors again, the amount of daily images being uploaded to GL has increased 5-fold within 2 weeks, and the pricing structure changes has been met with positivity for the most part.

I think we're probably more interested about the buyers.  GL never hurt for numbers of images.

The one price thing isn't a deal killer, but I want to make sure that the notion that there is value in pricing images at different sizes isn't lost.  If there isn't value in the size of an image offered, you might as well have a max download size of 1000x1000.

w7lwi

  • Those that don't stand up to evil enable evil.
« Reply #144 on: August 16, 2016, 12:00 »
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To GL,
Just a side issue question.  In January of this year I sent an e-mail to GL requesting my account be closed and all images removed.  I received no reply and a couple of months later I noticed everything seemed to still be up (looking from the contributor's side only).  At that time I sent a second e-mail with the same request, noting that a sale had been made some time after the initial request to close my account had been sent.  I still have received no response from GL and as far as I can tell everything is still active.  I can't look from the buyer's side, so this may not be accurate; however, since I'm still receiving GL e-mail notices, such as this one, I must still be in the database somewhere.  Could you please take a look and see what may be happening.  GL account name is raptor.
Thanks,

« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2016, 12:08 »
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This is a known bug that is being fixed as we speak. Sorry for the inconvenience, we will update when this is corrected ASAP.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2016, 12:14 by GraphicLeftovers »

« Reply #146 on: August 16, 2016, 13:49 »
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Ok, so how do we bulk edit the pricing of our images?  I can't seem to find anything to do that.

« Reply #147 on: August 16, 2016, 13:56 »
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GL you have to ask yourself who thinks one pricing for all images is positive? hobby shooters or seasoned pros? since you are new to the business you have no experience in what works best.

« Reply #148 on: August 16, 2016, 14:05 »
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We appreciate all of the input regarding changes we've been making.  We understand that it is impossible to make every individual happy when making changes, however, change was necessary with GL which many have expressed, and we are excited about the immediate results.  Since opening up to contributors again, the amount of daily images being uploaded to GL has increased 5-fold within 2 weeks, and the pricing structure changes has been met with positivity for the most part.

I think most people would agree that GL requires changes to improve and to help sellers earn more with GL.  If we left things how they were and didn't make changes, the comments would be different.  We have received many messages regarding the fact that many sellers have been earning less with GL, how sales have declined, etc., and that is the state in which we purchased GL. We are doing everything we can, as quickly as we can, to turn things around for our sellers, and inevitably for GL as a company.

i noticed GL is based in Singapore. if you are local , i would not be surprised if you have an upbirnging that small does not mean afraid to take on the giants.
your country was tiny and it stood up against giants in business with an impressive history.
that culture alone would not surprise me at all , if you succeed by open communication with your sellers, and the only thing left is to see the performance of your marketing dept...
to increase your contributors earnings , and yours, by bringing in a different tier of buyers
who are not just there for freebies and all you can download for the lowest prices in the world.

we have seen where that got ss, is, etc..
and i am sure experienced contributors are not looking for another ss, is...

as mantis admits so openly, we were all once with GL at the onset but we closed or stopped
uploading due to lack of sales. but your coming in here with good will to listen
will surely bring a good number of sellers back to GL.

just get those earnings rating up ... and i am sure there will be an exodus ,
to your benefit... or more so, to our mutual benefit.

« Reply #149 on: August 16, 2016, 15:17 »
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@Etudiante, we are based out of New York.  Do you mind showing me where you saw we are based in Singapore?

Definitely appreciate the input, we are not coming in trying to be like the others.  Everything takes time, but we certainly want to differentiate from the other companies out there.


 

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