Author Topic: Somebody get the crash cart - GL has flatlined! (Read 24477 times)

lisafx · « **on:** June 12, 2013, 19:32 »

I read the thread about how GL was going to be laying off some inspectors and other personnel on June 1st. Not sure why that would have affected sales though?

Normally I average 15-20 sales/month there (including May), and here it is almost mid month and zero, zip, nada.

Anybody getting sales at GL?

dbvirago · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2013, 19:46 »

It's one of 6-8 sites I tried at the start of the year. After 5 months, I dropped them all. None sustained the effort. GL was the only one with 0 sales.

stockastic · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2013, 19:49 »

At first, I made a few sales. Then they started getting known, and liked, and all you big fish jumped in with your thousands of images, and I got swamped. Then Google apparently changed something and their sales went way down. So now I get nothing. But "hope springs eternal in the human breast" (Alexander Pope). They seem to know what they're doing, and whatever Google did, Google can un-do at some point.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2013, 19:54 »

my average is holding up nicely (2 so far)

cthoman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2013, 19:55 »

It's been a little slower this year, but this month seems strong.

klsbear · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2013, 21:38 »

Had been getting one or two steady each month but the last few months were zero. Today I logged in to see a sale paying out $44.20. I'd like to see that continue!

sharpshot · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2013, 02:44 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 12, 2013, 19:32

I read the thread about how GL was going to be laying off some inspectors and other personnel on June 1st. Not sure why that would have affected sales though?

Normally I average 15-20 sales/month there (including May), and here it is almost mid month and zero, zip, nada.

Anybody getting sales at GL?

Wow, I'm outselling you on a site, I've sold 1

Not surprising that were getting a sales drop. Remember all those exclusives asking where they should upload their portfolios? I'm sure were seeing a lot of sales dilution and they didn't have big sales volume in the first place. Hopefully they can do some marketing now and get enough new buyers to keep us all happy. That's going to be tough but surely one day a site is going to threaten the big 4? Such a shame that buyers keep using sites that have cut our commissions so much it hurts. I hope the message gets out that lots of us wont carry on supplying microstock sites if we can't make money doing it. We desperately need one of the sites that has a better commission for contributors to become a real competitor. Pond5 have done it with footage, paying 50% commission, so there's no reason why a stills site can't do it.

fotografer · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2013, 04:04 »

I've only had 2 sales so far this month which has happened before. In the last year I have had 2 months where I made over 40$ but several months where I made between 3 and 10$. I find sales there a lot more random than most sites.

Ron · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2013, 04:54 »

Its never unanimous is it?

Sorry to hear your sales dropped Lisa. Hard to believe with such a portfolio.

I had one sale since I started contributing in February. Not sure if its worth to pursue uploading there.

fotografer · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2013, 05:07 »

How do you do at Cutcaster Lisa? I didn't get a single sale last month. That's the first time that has happened at any site that I upload to. I've had 2 so far this month. I only bother because it is so easy to upload to and I live in hope that one day if it changes I will at least have my port up there. I dropped zoonar and Panthermedia because it was too much effort for such little returns.

sharpshot · « **Reply #10 on:** June 13, 2013, 05:47 »

I had nothing with Zoonar for over a year, then I sold one for €30 last month. Mostphotos was similar, I had nothing for about a year but they're selling something every month now. That's why I don't like removing my portfolio unless a site really does something I don't like.

fotografer · « **Reply #11 on:** June 13, 2013, 05:49 »

I've never removed my port from anywhere but just give up on uploading if the work is more than the gain.

Mantis · « **Reply #12 on:** June 13, 2013, 07:05 »

Usually get 2-3 a month, nothing this month so far. I so want to support these sites (GL & P5) but I fear that if they really want to compete in the world of stills that they will ultimately have to introduce a subs package:'( Like many have stated, perpetual motion is hard to stop when it comes to uploading to sub sites, me included. I went to GL to support them but am to chicken to remove my stuff from other sub sites since I have a "reorganized out of a job" spouse and a long distance marriage (two sets of bills). But man, is the sub model sustainable? I applaud GL for making that move and hope they figure out how to overcome their business obstacles. I will continue to upload there.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2013, 09:41 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 13, 2013, 05:49

I've never removed my port from anywhere but just give up on uploading if the work is more than the gain.

That's my strategy as well - that way if a site turns around you are ready to go.

I started uploading to GL earlier this year after reading about them in these forums so only have a few hundred online. Had one DL for $1 so I got 52 cents. Love the commission rate, just wish there were more of them. With uploading just ftp and forget I will keep them on the list for new images but won't bother uploading any more old images unless sales improve.

lisafx · « **Reply #14 on:** June 13, 2013, 12:17 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 13, 2013, 05:07

How do you do at Cutcaster Lisa? I didn't get a single sale last month. That's the first time that has happened at any site that I upload to. I've had 2 so far this month. I only bother because it is so easy to upload to and I live in hope that one day if it changes I will at least have my port up there. I dropped zoonar and Panthermedia because it was too much effort for such little returns.

I'm not on Cutcaster, Zoonar or Panthermedia, so I can't speak to those.

What's weird about GL for me is that even since the Google changes, my sales at GL were holding up relatively well. Never had a 0 DL week (much less two) since I joined a couple of years ago.

At least some are seeing sales, so it isn't totally dead. Either I got slammed by a search change, or it must be a lot of competing lifestyle stuff was added recently.

lisafx · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2013, 12:20 »

Quote from: sharpshot on June 13, 2013, 02:44

Wow, I'm outselling you on a site, I've sold 1 Not surprising that were getting a sales drop. Remember all those exclusives asking where they should upload their portfolios? I'm sure were seeing a lot of sales dilution and they didn't have big sales volume in the first place.

I think you are right^^. And congrats on the sale

fotografer · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2013, 14:31 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 13, 2013, 12:17

I'm not on Cutcaster, Zoonar or Panthermedia, so I can't speak to those.

OK thanks

EmberMike · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2013, 14:38 »

My sales at GL are dismal at best lately. My earnings for June so far are super low.

Not that it's entirely unusual for me with GL to see that declining line on the graph, but this month is especially bad.

tickstock · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2013, 22:04 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2013, 22:09 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 13, 2013, 22:04

Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

1 - 15 sales can mean 50$ (they pay 52%)
2 - its just upload, not a single click after

stockmarketer · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2013, 22:38 »

I wouldn't count GL out just yet. My sales are definitely down, but flatlined? No. Had two sales today. But for the month, GL is probably down about 50% for me.

GL's upload process is the easiest in the business, and their commissions are more than fair. They're run by good people, and it sounds like they've been hit pretty hard by the recent changes at Google. But we all know the Google gods can giveth and they can taketh away... and sometimes give back again. GL may yet have its second wind.

I'll continue uploading there every day, because it's easy, I believe in the company, and you never know when an agency may rise.

tab62 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2013, 22:57 »

I think SL took all our sales away when he joined

VB inc · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2013, 23:22 »

Although i like their site and the upload process, im not sold on their search system. This is what is really killing this site in my opinion. I do plenty of searches on that site and frankly, im not impressed with the results that come in. There is just too much similar content from the same contributors showing up all the time. Sometimes i see more than 10 to 20 images from the same contributor on any given search in the same page. If i was a buyer, i would want more variety from my search and it is a clear indication to me as a buyer to go somewhere else. You just cant have a couple of contributors dominating the first 2 pages on any given search period.
Invest your money in the search algorithm graphics left overs. Or else your site would be like your name implies... left over pieces of graphics that clients/buyers wont waste time sifting through.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2013, 06:17 »

Quote from: tab62 on June 13, 2013, 22:57

I think SL took all our sales away when he joined

Doubt it. I did $80 in April, $13 in May and $5 in June. Hope that wasn't all your sales.

I do agree more search options and a better main sort algorithm would help buyers. When I buy there, I end up using their curated lightboxes.

Tryingmybest · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:46 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 13, 2013, 22:04

Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

For me it is. No submission process. No categories. Also, they pay a very fair rate. Just for that I feel they deserve my support. I want to see GL successful.

lisafx · « **Reply #25 on:** June 14, 2013, 14:00 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 13, 2013, 22:09

Quote from: tickstock on June 13, 2013, 22:04
Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

1 - 15 sales can mean 50$ (they pay 52%)
2 - its just upload, not a single click after

Not sure if that was directed to me, but if it was, then Luis' answer is dead on. I have my base price set to the highest ($15 I think?) and get 52% of the sales. Usually that adds up to about a payout a month.

Some people who are Istock exclusive really don't understand how easy and fast it is to upload to most of the other sites.

fotografer · « **Reply #26 on:** June 14, 2013, 14:31 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 14, 2013, 14:00

Some people who are Istock exclusive really don't understand how easy and fast it is to upload to most of the other sites.

Particularly GL, it's the easiest of the lot. Don't see the point of not uploading there.

cthoman · « **Reply #27 on:** June 14, 2013, 14:34 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 13, 2013, 22:09

Quote from: tickstock on June 13, 2013, 22:04
Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

1 - 15 sales can mean 50$ (they pay 52%)
2 - its just upload, not a single click after

That's on the low side too. I used to make over $100 with 15 sales there. Then, those pesky small sizes came in. I blame photographers. They ruin everything.

Steveball · « **Reply #28 on:** June 14, 2013, 15:00 »

JAN - 0
FEB - 0
MARCH - 0
APRIL - 0
MAY - 0
JUNE - 52c

Things are looking up!

lisafx · « **Reply #29 on:** June 14, 2013, 15:50 »

Quote from: cthoman on June 14, 2013, 14:34

That's on the low side too. I used to make over $100 with 15 sales there. Then, those pesky small sizes came in.

Not surprising. The site was illustration only for years. Illustrators always seem to report doing better there than photographers.

Don't you guys do better most sites than photographers? There is the perception that anyone can pick up a camera and make a good picture, but most people KNOW they can't pick up a pencil/pen/paintbrush, etc. and make a good picture

.

JohnItalia · « **Reply #30 on:** June 15, 2013, 13:44 »

Not surprised they flatlined! Sorry to be so blunt, but GL just needs to shut down for good and make room for companies that get back to their photographers within 6 months (going on 7 months with no response to a few emails) no matter how bad the market gets. If they can't it's time to shut down!

cthoman · « **Reply #31 on:** June 15, 2013, 14:25 »

Quote from: JohnItalia on June 15, 2013, 13:44

Not surprised they flatlined! Sorry to be so blunt, but GL just needs to shut down for good and make room for companies that get back to their photographers within 6 months (going on 7 months with no response to a few emails) no matter how bad the market gets. If they can't it's time to shut down!

I'm always mystified by stories like these because it seems like they are talking about a completely different company.

sharpshot · « **Reply #32 on:** June 15, 2013, 16:58 »

Quote from: cthoman on June 15, 2013, 14:25

Quote from: JohnItalia on June 15, 2013, 13:44
Not surprised they flatlined! Sorry to be so blunt, but GL just needs to shut down for good and make room for companies that get back to their photographers within 6 months (going on 7 months with no response to a few emails) no matter how bad the market gets. If they can't it's time to shut down!

I'm always mystified by stories like these because it seems like they are talking about a completely different company.

I've never had a problem communicating with them but emails can go wrong, always better to use the "contact us" link on the site and fill out the form.

stockastic · « **Reply #33 on:** June 15, 2013, 17:31 »

Quote from: JohnItalia on June 15, 2013, 13:44

...make room for companies that get back to their photographers within 6 months (going on 7 months with no response to a few emails)

That can't be right - in my experience these people are friendly and always communicate well. Check that email address, or use the online form.

EmberMike · « **Reply #34 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:57 »

I can't believe how bad July is going for me at GL. I don't think I've ever made this little with them.

stockastic · « **Reply #35 on:** July 16, 2013, 10:59 »

It's a long term proposition.

Ron · « **Reply #36 on:** July 16, 2013, 11:13 »

1 sale in 5 months with half my portfolio and all my best sellers. Stopped supplying.

EmberMike · « **Reply #37 on:** August 09, 2013, 17:15 »

Rocking a big $0 so far this month. Just when I thought it couldn't get much worse...

tab62 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 09, 2013, 17:31 »

Let's just 'RIP' this topic...

michaeldb · « **Reply #39 on:** August 09, 2013, 23:21 »

I just requested a payout at GL. Made about $30 each in June and July. So it's definitely still worth submitting their IMO. Microstock has a lot of ups and downs, who knows when something might come along which helps GL as much as the Google image search hurt them? In the meantime, I'm not giving up on them.

klsbear · « **Reply #40 on:** August 09, 2013, 23:33 »

They still have my support. Easy uploads and I see activity so it's worth sticking around for me. I was happily surprised to get a very nice EL purchase there several weeks ago. They haven't given me a compelling reason to leave.

sharpshot · « **Reply #41 on:** August 10, 2013, 02:31 »

My sales aren't good but I expected that after the rush of uploads they had a few months ago. Now they have a good collection of images and I'll give them a year or two to get sales going again. Its the easiest least time consuming upload for me. For anyone that's frustrated, I find deleting all links to a site and not checking sales for a year works well. You're either going to get a pleasant surprise when you check them again or you will know they aren't worth it.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2013, 06:24 »

I like GLStock, good commissions, easy uploading, pricing my own images and good acceptance ratio.

If only sales would pick up.

john_woodcock · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:13 »

"Made about $30 each in June and July. So it's definitely still worth submitting their IMO."

$30 a month earnings makes a site worth submitting to?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:16 »

Quote from: john_woodcock on August 15, 2013, 08:13

"Made about $30 each in June and July. So it's definitely still worth submitting their IMO."

$30 a month earnings makes a site worth submitting to?

I believe you need to "start" submitting outside iStock

Ron · « **Reply #45 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:32 »

Quote from: john_woodcock on August 15, 2013, 08:13

"Made about $30 each in June and July. So it's definitely still worth submitting their IMO."

$30 a month earnings makes a site worth submitting to?

Yes, for me 30$ a month would be worth it.

john_woodcock · « **Reply #46 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:46 »

"I believe you need to "start" submitting outside iStock"

If that's the ongoing reward, probably wouldn't bother. If that was the first months income and it grew from there, that might be a different story. I suspect it may be the former though, judging by other experiences. I used to think GL looked an interesting site, possibly not so much now.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 15, 2013, 08:49 »

Quote from: john_woodcock on August 15, 2013, 08:46

"I believe you need to "start" submitting outside iStock"

If that's the ongoing reward, probably wouldn't bother. If that was the first months income and it grew from there, that might be a different story. I suspect it may be the former though, judging by other experiences. I used to think GL looked an interesting site, possibly not so much now.

I was mainly talking about the submission process, at GL you just need to upload, not even a single click after

EmberMike · « **Reply #48 on:** August 15, 2013, 09:08 »

Quote from: john_woodcock on August 15, 2013, 08:13

$30 a month earnings makes a site worth submitting to?

I guess it depends on how $30 compares to what someone is getting elsewhere. For some, $30 a month anywhere is good. For others, it's terrible.

tab62 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 15, 2013, 09:11 »

"$30 a month earnings makes a site worth submitting to?"

For $30 a month I would work 80 hours per week! Wait I do that already and don't even make $30 a month

sdeva · « **Reply #50 on:** August 15, 2013, 09:32 »

Does someone know how long does it take for GL to payout after you request it? With over 800 images online (I stopped uploading after that due to some - in my opinion - strange rejections I was getting from them) - I managed to reach payout in (roughly) a year or so. Not too much selling going on there, is it? Anyhow, requested payout couple days back and am wondering how long before that happens...

klsbear · « **Reply #51 on:** August 15, 2013, 09:38 »

I believe there site says within 15 days of the request.

sdeva · « **Reply #52 on:** August 15, 2013, 10:43 »

Quote from: klsbear on August 15, 2013, 09:38

I believe there site says within 15 days of the request.

Ok thanks.

john_woodcock · « **Reply #53 on:** August 15, 2013, 11:27 »

"I guess it depends on how $30 compares to what someone is getting elsewhere. For some, $30 a month anywhere is good. For others, it's terrible."

To be honest it was a bit of a stupid statement on my part. All sorts of parameters would come into play when deciding if $30 a month is good or bad. 1 file uploaded, making $30 a month, good, 1000 files uploaded making $30 a month, not so good etc etc.

tickstock · « **Reply #54 on:** August 15, 2013, 11:34 »

EmberMike · « **Reply #55 on:** August 15, 2013, 12:26 »

Quote from: tickstock on August 15, 2013, 11:34

According to the poll. The average contributor from MSG who is on GL makes $9/month.

Then I'm well below average this month so far. At this rate I might make enough for a latte at Starbucks.

tab62 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 15, 2013, 14:36 »

hey, a latte (Grande) at star bucks is a lot of $$

sdeva · « **Reply #57 on:** August 15, 2013, 19:13 »

Oh ! I thought payout was at 50, my mistake

Not that that makes a huge difference..

EmberMike · « **Reply #58 on:** August 16, 2013, 09:20 »

Quote from: tab62 on August 15, 2013, 14:36

hey, a latte (Grande) at star bucks is a lot of $$

True.

But I'm more likely looking at a Tall the way my GL earnings are going.

Which, by the way, are on track to put GL at the bottom of my earnings list for August, out of the 21 sites I'm on.

gillian vann · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2013, 19:18 »

yeah, I had to cut them. we are moving house and I'm tidying up, throwing away things I don't need, and that's spilling over into other areas of my life. I can't justify the time spent uploading and then recording 0 sales each month. I am hoping to cull my list down to just 5.

stockastic · « **Reply #60 on:** August 16, 2013, 20:06 »

I made sales at the start, got a couple of payouts, then over time it dried up. Over the last year GL has been talked up a lot as a place to go for people bailing out of IS, etc, because they pay fair commissions and have reasonable standards. I suspect quite a few medium to large portfolios arrived there, causing huge dilution of earnings for existing contributors, because the buyers weren't there yet. And more recently they said they've been hammered by changes at Google, which I don't understand, but apparently it was pretty bad and they had to cut some staff.

Maybe they just grew too fast and outran what market they had. Obviously a new agency wants as many salable images as it can get. But there has to be some sensible numeric relationship between sales volume and number of contributors, or we get discouraged and give up. I don't have the answers and would have no idea how to successfully bootstrap a business like this.

I guess I'm staying there and hoping that in time, things improve. I still get a sale once in a while.

Ron · « **Reply #61 on:** August 17, 2013, 02:23 »

Quote from: stockastic on August 16, 2013, 20:06

I made sales at the start, got a couple of payouts, then over time it dried up. Over the last year GL has been talked up a lot as a place to go for people bailing out of IS, etc, because they pay fair commissions and have reasonable standards. I suspect quite a few medium to large portfolios arrived there, causing huge dilution of earnings for existing contributors, because the buyers weren't there yet. And more recently they said they've been hammered by changes at Google, which I don't understand, but apparently it was pretty bad and they had to cut some staff.

Maybe they just grew too fast and outran what market they had. Obviously a new agency wants as many salable images as it can get. But there has to be some sensible numeric relationship between sales volume and number of contributors, or we get discouraged and give up. I don't have the answers and would have no idea how to successfully bootstrap a business like this.

I guess I'm staying there and hoping that in time, things improve. I still get a sale once in a while.

So by finding a new fair outlet and trying to help the agency with more images, we destroyed the agency? That makes me wonder, who is responsible for managing the profitability and strategy of the agency? I would think the agency owners/management. If what you say is true, or the case, shouldnt they have managed the influx of images differently? Shouldnt they have known their market and how their market behaves? Knowing the market mechanism and the market in which you are selling is key to a successful business anyways.

stockastic · « **Reply #62 on:** August 17, 2013, 17:02 »

Like I said: I don't have the answers.

PZF · « **Reply #63 on:** September 26, 2013, 04:59 »

'I still get a sale once in a while'

I've only got a few hundred pics there but not a sale in over 2 months.

!

sharpshot · « **Reply #64 on:** September 26, 2013, 07:37 »

I had 2 nice EL sales recently. Good to get to the cash out level with 2 sales. I know that doesn't happen often but it makes it worth uploading for me.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #65 on:** September 26, 2013, 07:48 »

after a terrible August with 0 sales, this September looks "nice" with 6 sales, they have my support as well!

Steveball · « **Reply #66 on:** September 26, 2013, 08:01 »

Two sales, $1.04 in 9 months with a port of 875. It could be better!

Ron · « **Reply #67 on:** September 26, 2013, 08:53 »

1 sale in 5 months, 450 images. not worth my time, not even if its a 1 second uploading process.

50% of nothing is nothing.

Not sure why peeps keep uploading. How do you justify that 1 or 6 or whatever pathetic sales number is enough to compensate your time and effort. Honest question.

jorgophotography · « **Reply #68 on:** September 26, 2013, 10:07 »

I will support GL regardless of the ebb and flow. The staff are wonderful, the upload process is the best in the industry and they pay a fair rate.

Ron · « **Reply #69 on:** September 26, 2013, 11:02 »

If it was ebb and flow I would support them too, but there is no flow at all, at least not for me. You are better off supporting CanStockPhoto as they do have sales, and pay 50% as well.

stockastic · « **Reply #70 on:** September 26, 2013, 12:08 »

sharphot just said he recently at 2 ELs. Different people sell at different places.

Like others, I stick with them because they pay fair royalties and their upload is streamlined. I've dropped all the other non-sellers but I think of GL as a bet on the future. I'm done with giving photos to new sites that end up competing on nothing but price.

Ron · « **Reply #71 on:** September 26, 2013, 13:01 »

If Sean and Lisa dont do well on an agency, I am not even going to try it. I am not going to determine the succes of an agency on 2 random ELs. One person's experience doesnt change anything for me compared to the dozens of people with thousands of images having no sales.

Each to his own, still dont get it. If the agency would have taken off, it would have happened back in February. They have said themselves Google killed them. Nothing changed since then.

I'll leave my 450 file sit there because I am not even wasting more time on deleting them.

And as mentioned before, CanStockPhoto is also paying 50% and they do have sales but no one is actively supporting them. Duncan is a nice guy too, so I dont see the difference.

Cheers.

stockastic · « **Reply #72 on:** September 26, 2013, 13:05 »

Nothing against CanStock, just never tried them. Like many people, I got significant sales at GL early on, then they faded away. Obviously things changed, but they can change again. Google giveth, and Google taketh away, and maybe Google bringeth back at some point.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #73 on:** September 26, 2013, 13:07 »

Quote from: Ron on September 26, 2013, 13:01

And as mentioned before, CanStockPhoto is also paying 50% and they do have sales but no one is actively supporting them. Duncan is a nice guy too, so I dont see the difference.

I am sure that contributors submitting outside the usual top5 are supporting CanStockPhoto already, just don't mention it as often (as GL)

pancaketom · « **Reply #74 on:** September 26, 2013, 13:20 »

Also 50% of you set the price at GL can be a nice sum, 50% of say .50 at CS isn't all that much.

I had a number of good months when I started at GL with nice EL's and a lot of promise, since then and especially since the google search change I suppose only a few a month. Hopefully google search or something can change again and sales will pick up. I think of it as an investment against the IS and FT and SS domination of the stock market.

One thing with getting a lot more images at a site is that it dilutes individual contributors earnings, but might not effect the site's bottom line much at all.

w7lwi · « **Reply #75 on:** September 26, 2013, 16:30 »

What is the payout level at GL? Like many have reported, I sold relatively well when it first started, but for all intents and purposes it's died this year. I reached just over $40 and then nothing. Had one sale this month that brought my earnings up to $41.08. While the upload process is relatively easy, there doesn't seem to be any purpose in continuing if little of my stuff sells there (does well elsewhere). I'll leave what I've already uploaded alone, but doubt I'll be uploading much of anything new unless something turns around. There was a post sometime back (last year I think) where it was suggested that illustrations did better on GL than photographs. Has there been any confirmation of this or was that just someone's idle speculation?

sharpshot · « **Reply #76 on:** September 26, 2013, 16:41 »

I think the payout is $50. Illustrations do sell better but they seem to be selling more photos than they used to.

MichaelJayFoto · « **Reply #77 on:** September 28, 2013, 03:05 »

As I only started distributing my images this year, GL never sold well for me.

However, there is no effort involved in submitting my images to them, when my FTP clients is running it takes less than five seconds to also add GL to the list. And they are definitely one of the few agencies I feel are contributor friendly.

So why shouldn't I give them my images in the hope some customers will buy from there instead of other sites giving me a quarter or less of what they make?

Ron · « **Reply #78 on:** September 28, 2013, 03:14 »

Quote from: pancaketom on September 26, 2013, 13:20

Also 50% of you set the price at GL can be a nice sum, 50% of say .50 at CS isn't all that much.

I had a number of good months when I started at GL with nice EL's and a lot of promise, since then and especially since the google search change I suppose only a few a month. Hopefully google search or something can change again and sales will pick up. I think of it as an investment against the IS and FT and SS domination of the stock market.

One thing with getting a lot more images at a site is that it dilutes individual contributors earnings, but might not effect the site's bottom line much at all.

I agree, but my RPD at CanStockPhoto is 1.19$, which is not bad. Last month I had a 9.80 sale (my cut) and this month a 13.60 sale on CanStockPhoto. And this is without the other credit and sub sales on CanStockPhoto.

I had one sale on GL for 5.60 (my cut) in 5 months. If I had 3 sales per month of GL they would have my full support. If I see reports here that GL is taking off, I'll be the first to start submitting again.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #79 on:** September 28, 2013, 09:03 »

Quote from: Ron on September 26, 2013, 08:53

1 sale in 5 months, 450 images. not worth my time, not even if its a 1 second uploading process.

50% of nothing is nothing.

Not sure why peeps keep uploading. How do you justify that 1 or 6 or whatever pathetic sales number is enough to compensate your time and effort. Honest question.

Using Stocksubmitter, I upload to many sites simultaneously with a single click, and GL is simply one of these. So there's no extra effort involved. Any money made at this site is a bonus.

Ron · « **Reply #80 on:** September 28, 2013, 12:58 »

Cool, that makes sense.

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