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Title: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: RacePhoto on December 13, 2009, 00:13
Dreamstime - Husakarl5  (exclusive image)
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_399/124241054177gRrH.jpg)

iStock Exclusive - caracterdesign (c) eva serrabassa
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3129433/2/istockphoto_3129433-global-business.jpg)

I can't draw any conclusions, except they do appear to be the same image, and fairly unique.

Background is a PD NASA image, so no issue there.

Another one

Dreamstime - Husakarl5 (exclusive image)
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_399/1242412608dT43kz.jpg)

IS Exclusive - TommL
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/5985927/2/istockphoto_5985927-hand-drawing-empty-diagram.jpg)

Anyone? ;)
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: bittersweet on December 13, 2009, 00:17
Definitely the same image.  Which site are you going to contact first? ;)
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: KB on December 13, 2009, 00:36
This dude is toast.  What guts! Two exclusive accounts on IS and exclusive images on DT?

Good catch! There's no doubt that those are two sets of identical images.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: RacePhoto on December 13, 2009, 00:37
Definitely the same image.  Which site are you going to contact first? ;)

None, I was just being amused searching for IS exclusive placement in searches, not looking for copycats. In fact I feel kind of bad pointing it out.

That and no watermark on the IS image linked from IS?

If IS or DT want to pay me, I'll do this all day.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: KB on December 13, 2009, 00:40
Bad? No way!

However, TommL is a diamond exclusive with over 89000 DLs. I find it hard to believe he'd risk this.

caracterdesign is a black diamond Admin at IS (with almost 1/4 million DLs), so I think it's pretty obvious what actually has happened here.

Husakarl5 has stolen the images and UL'd them to DT.

If you don't want to contact IS, I gladly will.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: bittersweet on December 13, 2009, 01:34
Yes, the DT dude is definitely the culprit. I recognize at least one other in that portfolio that doesn't belong to him. There are only 31 files in the portfolio, opened in May... Looks like he just wanted to see what he could get away with and for how long.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: cthoman on December 13, 2009, 02:19
Wow! Add istock exclusive urbancow to the mix. Those are off first page downloads for terms like handshake and piggy bank. Not too subtle. I think piracy prevention is the new frontier for stock art.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: Clivia on December 13, 2009, 02:22
He also has one by Lise Gagnes. Its the one called togetherness, all the silhouettes in front of a blue map of the world. He is definitely the one in the wrong!
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Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: gostwyck on December 13, 2009, 08:03
It looks like all the images were uploaded within a fairly short period just after he opened his account.

He's probably still out of pocket, assuming that he originally bought all the images full-size at IS, although of course he might be a designer who gained them on behalf of a client or his employer. Hopefully he is yet to receive his second payout (with 198 sales).

Well spotted Race!
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: RacePhoto on December 13, 2009, 13:03
Wow! Add istock exclusive urbancow to the mix. Those are off first page downloads for terms like handshake and piggy bank. Not too subtle. I think piracy prevention is the new frontier for stock art.

Maybe there is hope for me getting a paying job in Micro?  ;)

Yes, the person is kind of obvious and there are more like this. If someone was smart they would not just troll for most popular images on the first pages of IS best exclusives where they will be spotted in minutes by a blind monkey with a computer. (ah... that's me?)

I only checked DT, they could be on ten other sites for all I know.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: Magnum on December 13, 2009, 13:46
Thieves are smarter than us.  They only upload the best... :-[
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: anton9 on December 13, 2009, 19:14
thats absolutely shocking!!! I hope that person is dealt like a thief and arrested as thats what he/she is!!
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: leaf on December 14, 2009, 03:53
so, did somebody notify the sites?
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: gostwyck on December 14, 2009, 06:27
The account has been deleted.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: tomml on December 14, 2009, 06:30
Hi guys, thank you for contacting me and the sites. The account is deleted in the mean time, so i had no chance to check that portfolio. I'm definitly an istock exclusive ;)

So thanx to all of you for watching and contacting us! You did a great job!
Peaceful christmas to you,

Cheers,
TommL
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: graficallyminded on December 14, 2009, 10:24
Awesome.  See, we all gotta look out for each other :) ....because who else will?  One hand washes the other.  Score another one to the MSG investigators ;)
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: ap on December 14, 2009, 15:44

None, I was just being amused searching for IS exclusive placement in searches, not looking for copycats. In fact I feel kind of bad pointing it out.

If IS or DT want to pay me, I'll do this all day.

good job, race. keep on being amused and find more. you may have cornered a new microstock job title: amateur image detective. also, dt should really ask picscout agency, who they use to protect images from theft and misuse, what happened to their surveillance.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: Jonathan Ross on January 19, 2010, 17:34
I can't find HusaKarl5 at Dreamstime, can anyone help.

Thanks,
Jonathan
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: lisafx on January 19, 2010, 17:43
I can't find HusaKarl5 at Dreamstime, can anyone help.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Taking a wild guess I would say that they removed his account once this was reported.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: cathyslife on January 19, 2010, 17:58
Nice work, image sleuths! I too would like to see some punishment for these thieves.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: FD on January 19, 2010, 23:24
I can't find HusaKarl5 at Dreamstime, can anyone help.
You revived a thread of more than a month old. Better watch the dates.  ;) The DT account was removed (of course).
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: tamasvargyasi on January 20, 2010, 02:07
I bet there is more, like HusaKarl5.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: maco0708 on January 20, 2010, 08:01
I bet there is more, like HusaKarl5.

That one is deleted now as well.

Unfortunately a lot of stock images can be downloaded on line for free through the same channels as illegal music. Therefore, these thieves can download all of the images for free and then any profit they make is for them to keep.
It might be a good idea to use a image recognition software for new members to check for thieves. Let's say, once somebody uploads their first ten images, check them against libraries at the other major sites.

I wonder if iStock has any right to sue Dreamstime in this matter. I am not blaming Dreamstime one bit, but in the end, they licensed the stolen images. Or I wonder if they recall the stolen images and direct the customers to iStock to license them properly.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: willie on January 20, 2010, 10:36
Hurray for Race!!!

you know, i am not computer savvy to even locate my lost pint of Guinness, lol..
but it is times like these, ( contributors looking out for each other) ,that i truly feel that so long as there are thieves who think they can outsmart some of us,
there is also always one mean kick-ar-e photographer/illustrator like Race, who will outsmart them and find them.

very soon we will see a DC comic character named RAcePhoto
who flies around, um sorry, race around in his super sportscar to rescue
computer ignoramus like me,  :D
to seek and destroy these lowlives who not only have no talent to create their own work, but have the gull to be so proud of stealing other people hard
work.

why costume do you want DC comic to get you to wear, Mr. RacePhoto?

you got my vote for Superhero for this month  ;)

p.s.
that being said, you found them only because they were best sellers that you recognized. imagine how many other not so recognizable pilfered images out there not identified and still being sold as the thief's.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: willie on January 20, 2010, 10:49
that being said, you found them only because they were best sellers that you recognized. imagine how many other not so recognizable pilfered images out there not identified and still being sold as the thief's.

maybe some super genius can invent a tag similar to a GPS location tag for our images so we can embed them to our images before submitting them to stock sites.

maybe this is for some of those super whippersnapping cyberpunks who pride themselves of how much of a cybersleuth they are in  phishing ..... 
they could put their brains to something more useful like this ?
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: ShadySue on January 20, 2010, 11:57
...maybe this is for some of those super whippersnapping cyberpunks who pride themselves of how much of a cybersleuth they are in  phishing .....  they could put their brains to something more useful like this ?
You'd leave your image security in their hands? They made it, they can break it in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Is this copied or does this exclusive have two accounts?
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on January 20, 2010, 20:44
what a family!!!  this is what attracted me to MSG in the first place!!    8)=tom