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BMY at all sites!!! ;D
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BMY at all sites!!! ;D
Yep same here!
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IS isn't dead yet !
BME as an IS exclusive at 35%
Over 2,300$ which is 22% more then last month and 180% more the Jan/2011
Almost 500 downloads.
Over 3,500 photos.
Last month PP sales are grew as well (more then double)
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yes a good January all around! especially pleased that, RM sales have really trebbled compared to Jan.2011.
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-20% of previous month...
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IS - Continues its downward spiral
SS - Best month ever! Earns me twice the money I make at IS (it used to be the other way around for years!)
DT - Steady as usual
Veer - seems to be my number 4 these days
FT - Lower and lower... how low can you get? Last time I had such low sales at FT was august 2008. If this continues, FT will soon fall behind 123rf and Bigstockphoto.
Up: Alamy, Photocase, Bigstockphoto, Mostphotos
Down: Canstockphoto, Zoonar, Photodune
Overall: Not a very good start for this year. Slightly above January 2011, but with 20% more images.
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IS isn't dead yet !
BME as an IS exclusive at 35%
Over 2,300$ which is 22% more then last month and 180% more the Jan/2011
Almost 500 downloads.
Over 3,500 photos.
Last month PP sales are grew as well (more then double)
Has your RPI always been around 65 cents or has it changed as you add more images?
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most sites slightly down from december, nevertheless second bme thanks to shutterstock and veer; may easily turn into bme when IS pp and StockXpert earnings will come
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IS isn't dead yet !
BME as an IS exclusive at 35%
Over 2,300$ which is 22% more then last month and 180% more the Jan/2011
Almost 500 downloads.
Over 3,500 photos.
Last month PP sales are grew as well (more then double)
Has your RPI always been around 65 cents or has it changed as you add more images?
Well 65c is quite a lot since 3 EL's kind of skewed it and add to the fact that the 35% is a new thing for us.
My "normal" RPI is around 50c-55c
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IS Exclusive
Great month - more than double 2011 January
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IS isn't dead yet !
BME as an IS exclusive at 35%
Over 2,300$ which is 22% more then last month and 180% more the Jan/2011
Almost 500 downloads.
Over 3,500 photos.
Last month PP sales are grew as well (more then double)
Has your RPI always been around 65 cents or has it changed as you add more images?
Well 65c is quite a lot since 3 EL's kind of skewed it and add to the fact that the 35% is a new thing for us.
My "normal" RPI is around 50c-55c
Was just curious about RPI over time. Was it still 50c when you had 1,000 or 2,000 images? Go up/down?
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BME at DT, great RPD: 2.16 $
average but good month at SS
for the first time in ages (or ever since I started in microstock) FT comes in third with earnings (they used to bring 2/3 of my microstock income, now they bring less than 1/3 - with the largest portfolio available)
123rf - low earner still
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PaulieWalnuts: it was around 40c-45c but I was at 25% back then
My RPI is very steady over all. I haven't noticed a correlation with images added.
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Rubbish. Bad all round.
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Killed it at SS, BME by over $300.
All new low at istock, which now represents just 6% of my total monthly microstock earnings.
Rest of the sites were pretty normal. GR was way up. BME there. And some action on a few of the new sites I've been trying. iClipart is looking pretty good.
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BME overall.
SS going great as ELs continue to pile up in good numbers.
IS down a bit from my peak there last fall, but showing signs of a rebound.
FT holding steady over the past few months.
DT down a bit... I blame the idiotic "too many similars" rejections which has caused me to rarely upload there
And the rest, which combined account for less than 10% of my earnings... 123RF a BME, BigStock steady, CanStockPhoto down a bit, etc.
Since RPI is being discussed, mine held steady at about $.12/day. RPI has actually increased over the years as I've built my port. (Now let the debate begin about how this is a meaningless number.)
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IS still earning more than SS despite going independent.
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Was just curious about RPI over time. Was it still 50c when you had 1,000 or 2,000 images? Go up/down?
From my stats, the only possible trend I can see is that there is a drop in RPI if you don't upload for an extended period - but it drops and then stays steady. In the time I've been exclusive now, the RPI has moved in a range of about 25% from the lowest to the highest value, but there doesn't seem to be any general trend even though I've gone from ax. 1100 to 3000 images in that time.
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Not my best month, but still pretty reasonable with total earnings of around $1150. I've continued to upload images to the main sites, and over the months that has had an effect, and also spreading myself across more agencies results in more steady performance as each site goes through its ups and downs. Shutterstock was the best as usual, but iStock is really growing for me. I keep adding my 20 images a week, and refresh my Photo+ collection as necessary, but both the main agency and the partner earnings were a BME. Here are the usual graphs, more details on my blog.
Steve
(http://www.backyardsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock_earnings_growth_jan121.png)
(http://www.backyardsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock_earnings_per_site_jan12.png)
(http://www.backyardsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/files_online_jan121.png)
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Overall a slightly down month. 9% less thatn last January. 12% above December. Could be better :-)
Best earning sites:
1. Shutterstock
2. Fotolia
3. istock
4. Veer
5. Depositphotos
6. Dreamstime
7. Canstock
8. All the rest :-)
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IS almost as good as SS.
The rest are :'(
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Total earnings almost exactly the same as Jan 2011. IS did suprisingly well being only about 10% down in $'s although 46% down in sales. Earnings at SS were up 27% and similar at BigStock but disappointing results at DT and FT, both of whom have slipped backwards.
SS and BigStock together are now contributing 48% of my earnings. Fingers crossed that they can maintain the growth.
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400% increase on last January (but last January was rubbish).
Only $15 up on December, but at least it's up!
1. Shutterstock.
2. iStock
3. 123RF
4. Dreamstime
5. Fotolia
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It was a solid month. I'm still coming back from the IS breakup. ;)
1. Shutterstock
2. Clipartof
3. Mystockvectors
4. Dreamstime
5. Can Stock
6. 123RF
7. GL
8. Drawshop
9. Bigstock
...and the rest.
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Had my BDE, BWE, and BME at SS.
Also my best month so far at 123RF.
The rest were just meh.
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IS exclusive, BME.
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Very disappointing January. $ were actually 1% down on December. That has never happened before. Not sure why the complete failure to rebound from the holidays.
Royalties down 5% from last January. Istock and Fotolia were both down around 35% from last year. Shutterstock and Dreamstime both showed growth, but not enough to compensate from the IS/FT nosedive.
Here's the stats, along with +/- from last year:
ISP 25% (-35%)
SS 28% (+29%)
DT 15% (+9%)
Fot 12% (-36%)
Big 5%
123 3%
Can 2%
Alm 4%
Veer 1%
PD 2%
DP 2%
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An indie BME for me. BME at SS. Very pleased - nearly as much as I was earning as an iS exlusive:
http://stockcube-stockcube.blogspot.com/ (http://stockcube-stockcube.blogspot.com/)
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Very disappointing January. $ were actually 1% down on December. That has never happened before. Not sure why the complete failure to rebound from the holidays.
Royalties down 5% from last January. Istock and Fotolia were both down around 35% from last year. Shutterstock and Dreamstime both showed growth, but not enough to compensate from the IS/FT nosedive.
Here's the stats, along with +/- from last year:
ISP 25% (-35%)
SS 28% (+29%)
DT 15% (+9%)
Fot 12% (-36%)
Big 5%
123 3%
Can 2%
Alm 4%
Veer 1%
PD 2%
DP 2%
I wonder if being exclusive would still be better for you. Probably 30-40% higher credits per sale plus doubling your percentage and a best match boost. An extra small photo+ goes from 2 to 6 credits and 19% goes to 40% so on those sales you would make $2.40 instead of .38 cents or 6x more money if the credit is a dollar and 6 times 25% of total income is a 50% increase. The lowest difference is for XXXL from 23-28 credits which at again 1 dollar a credit and going from 19-40% you would make 4.37 as a non and 11.2 or about 3x more at a minimum. XXXL regular sales are rare for me since a lot of them are E+ and XXXL are just normally rare so I would expect a much higher increase (P+ to E+ XXXL sales would be $5.32 to 20 or about 4x). I guess you've done the math but even without Vetta, Agency, faster inspections, and a best match boost it looks to me like you would be doing as well as an exclusive if not much better when the extra factors are added in.
I just checked my last 20 sales and as a non exclusive at 19% with credits of 1 dollar I would have made $30.40 but as an exclusive making 40% I would make 113.40 so nearly 4x more money for the same sales and you can reasonably expect a few extra sales as an exclusive because of the best match. You will also have more Vetta and Agency than me so again probably even higher search placement and sales.
And on top of that you would get a lot more for your thinkstock sales which haven't been counted into your IS income yet I assume.
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Very disappointing January. $ were actually 1% down on December. That has never happened before. Not sure why the complete failure to rebound from the holidays.
Royalties down 5% from last January. Istock and Fotolia were both down around 35% from last year. Shutterstock and Dreamstime both showed growth, but not enough to compensate from the IS/FT nosedive.
Here's the stats, along with +/- from last year:
ISP 25% (-35%)
SS 28% (+29%)
DT 15% (+9%)
Fot 12% (-36%)
Big 5%
123 3%
Can 2%
Alm 4%
Veer 1%
PD 2%
DP 2%
I wonder if being exclusive would still be better for you. Probably 30-40% higher credits per sale plus doubling your percentage and a best match boost. An extra small photo+ goes from 2 to 6 credits and 19% goes to 40% so on those sales you would make $2.40 instead of .38 cents or 6x more money if the credit is a dollar and 6 times 25% of total income is a 50% increase. The lowest difference is for XXXL from 23-28 credits which at again 1 dollar a credit and going from 19-40% you would make 4.37 as a non and 11.2 or about 3x more at a minimum. XXXL regular sales are rare for me since a lot of them are E+ and XXXL are just normally rare so I would expect a much higher increase (P+ to E+ XXXL sales would be $5.32 to 20 or about 4x). I guess you've done the math but even without Vetta, Agency, faster inspections, and a best match boost it looks to me like you would be doing as well as an exclusive if not much better when the extra factors are added in.
I just checked my last 20 sales and as a non exclusive at 19% with credits of 1 dollar I would have made $30.40 but as an exclusive making 40% I would make 113.40 so nearly 4x more money for the same sales and you can reasonably expect a few extra sales as an exclusive because of the best match. You will also have more Vetta and Agency than me so again probably even higher search placement and sales.
^^^ Are you serious?
Volunteering to put your entire microstock income into the hands of an agency whose sales (for Lisa) have been dropping off a cliff for several months; who have no known leadership; who have just laid off a good chunk of their staff; who have an unenviable history of reducing commissions to their contributors; who are intending to sell the business on; whose site is totally bug-ridden and which they can't fix; whose site appears vulnerable to fraud; who keep screwing up the displayed statistics/RC's; who keep sending 'reimbursement' emails without good explanation; who frequently change the default sort-order causing wild shifts in income; etc, etc?
Why on earth would you do that?
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- 34th month, BME with 1075$ (1600 sales, 815 from SS)
- 80 new pics at SS in the last 3 months (only 11 new in January)
- comparing to last January is almost ridiculous but +230%
this month (previous month) earnings %
SS 40% (42%)
IS 12% (13%)
Zazzle 9% (3%) (BME) (exceptional month with almost 100$ (27 sales), always between 20$-50$)
FT 9% (8%) (BME)
123RF 7% (9%)
DT 5% (6%) (stagnated for 1 year now, 50-70 downloads/earnings)
AYCS 4% (2%)
DP 3% (4%)
PD 2% (4%)
V 2% (1%)
CanStockPhoto 2% (1%)
Other 5% (7%)
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^^^ Are you serious?
Volunteering to put your entire microstock income into the hands of an agency whose sales (for Lisa) have been dropping off a cliff for several months; who have no known leadership; who have just laid off a good chunk of their staff; who have an unenviable history of reducing commissions to their contributors; who are intending to sell the business on; whose site is totally bug-ridden and which they can't fix; whose site appears vulnerable to fraud; who keep screwing up the displayed statistics/RC's; who keep sending 'reimbursement' emails without good explanation; who frequently change the default sort-order causing wild shifts in income; etc, etc?
Why on earth would you do that?
Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making. The point is that if she makes 25% of her income as a nonexclusive then as an exclusive all things being equal she should do about the same, all things aren't equal though and those things favor exclusives so she should do much better.
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-BME at FeaturePics... Almost made $5. ;) Yes it's okay to laugh. (Or cry if you want).
-BME at 123 - whoohoo Almost $17!!! Yes, it's okay to laugh again.
-SS (30%) and DT (27%) doing very well! Only one month was better at SS, the month I got paid for 4 illegally downloaded EL's in one lump.
-IS, believe it or not, was slightly higher than last January, considering I'm down to under 100 photos that's pretty good.
I've started to track IS by average royalty credits paid to me, anyone else doing this? This month the average was 24.93 cents paid per credit. It usually hovers around 20/credit, but two months last year it dipped below 15/credit.
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Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making.
Even if you were correct and it did result in '10-25% more income' ... but for how long with the way sales are dropping (and increasing elsewhere)? Three months later you might need to revert back to independent and then you've lost years of work in the sort-order positions, levels, rank, etc. You'd have to be mad to even contemplate it.
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A very good month. Up 20% on December, up 62% on January, 2010. Year over year up 15%.
Continuing to remove nonsellers and slow sellers from iStock and Fotolia. Both continue to decline, although I can't know if deleting stuff nobody likes is keeping them from finding stuff they would buy.
SS 38% (up 2%)
CanStockPhoto 19% (up 171%)
123RF 11% (up 13%)
DT 10% (up 140%)
iS 6% (down 16%)
BigStock 4% (down 11%)
PD 4% (up 21%)
DP 3% (down 245)
Ftl 2% (down 29%)
Cres 1% (up 197%)
Veer 1% (down 56%)
StockXpert 1% (down 4%)
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I've started to track IS by average royalty credits paid to me, anyone else doing this? This month the average was 24.93 cents paid per credit. It usually hovers around 20/credit, but two months last year it dipped below 15/credit.
21.84 (55 sales)
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Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making. The point is that if she makes 25% of her income as a nonexclusive then as an exclusive all things being equal she should do about the same, all things aren't equal though and those things favor exclusives so she should do much better.
I'm with you. I don't think it's the worst idea either. When you start getting excited about what Photodune is offering, it may be time to reevaluate. ;D Seriously though, it would be hard to make the leap of faith.
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I thought you were going indie Traveller?
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I thought you were going indie Traveller?
What gave you that idea?
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Compared to Jan 11:
SS: +366%
IS: I can only estimate since the PP earnings are not in yet, but my "educated" guess would be 2/3 up
DT: +741% -but I had just half the files up compared to SS and IS in reality it's just over 10% of what SS makes me. The same thing goes for FT.
I haven't been on the other sites back then, but besides 123RF that makes me a bit more than FT and DT, other sites are not worth mentioning, if I combine all of their sales they make less than 7% of what SS brings me (DP, CS, BS, Alamy, PD)
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^^^ Are you serious?
Volunteering to put your entire microstock income into the hands of an agency whose sales (for Lisa) have been dropping off a cliff for several months; who have no known leadership; who have just laid off a good chunk of their staff; who have an unenviable history of reducing commissions to their contributors; who are intending to sell the business on; whose site is totally bug-ridden and which they can't fix; whose site appears vulnerable to fraud; who keep screwing up the displayed statistics/RC's; who keep sending 'reimbursement' emails without good explanation; who frequently change the default sort-order causing wild shifts in income; etc, etc?
Why on earth would you do that?
Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making. The point is that if she makes 25% of her income as a nonexclusive then as an exclusive all things being equal she should do about the same, all things aren't equal though and those things favor exclusives so she should do much better.
If you read the Jan sales thread on the iStock forums, you'll see that exclusives are all over the place: some reporting BME, some the very opposite.
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^^^ Are you serious?
Volunteering to put your entire microstock income into the hands of an agency whose sales (for Lisa) have been dropping off a cliff for several months; who have no known leadership; who have just laid off a good chunk of their staff; who have an unenviable history of reducing commissions to their contributors; who are intending to sell the business on; whose site is totally bug-ridden and which they can't fix; whose site appears vulnerable to fraud; who keep screwing up the displayed statistics/RC's; who keep sending 'reimbursement' emails without good explanation; who frequently change the default sort-order causing wild shifts in income; etc, etc?
Why on earth would you do that?
Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making. The point is that if she makes 25% of her income as a nonexclusive then as an exclusive all things being equal she should do about the same, all things aren't equal though and those things favor exclusives so she should do much better.
If you read the Jan sales thread on the iStock forums, you'll see that exclusives are all over the place: some reporting BME, some the very opposite.
That's true. My point with this was that without sales increasing from becoming exclusive (which they undoubtedly would have since the best match favored exclusives over nonexclusives in January) the difference in RCs and % might be enough alone to make becoming exclusive worth it. There would also be a higher % for thinkstock and Vetta and Agency files to add to income. So without an increase in sales I would guess overall income would have been higher. When I went exclusive it was a pretty simple calculation because the only thing that really changed was the %, now the RCs change and that can be as much of a difference in income as the royalty %.
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If you read the Jan sales thread on the iStock forums, you'll see that exclusives are all over the place: some reporting BME, some the very opposite.
And an hour ago SS was 0.09 down and IS 0.36 up...I had a BMW at IS, but OTOH without ELs, it would be below average...I haven't uploaded in over 2 months though (and I do have 160 photos that were uploaded elsewhere in the mean time)
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BME at SS ;D
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iStock: $$ up c38% on last Jan; dls up c20%. The EL fairy didn't visit me in Jan. 2011.
Alamy: 0 :'( I'm struggling to keep the faith.
(Edited because I'd undercounted; figures adjusted now that the figures are finally complete on iStock.)
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^^^ Are you serious?
Volunteering to put your entire microstock income into the hands of an agency whose sales (for Lisa) have been dropping off a cliff for several months; who have no known leadership; who have just laid off a good chunk of their staff; who have an unenviable history of reducing commissions to their contributors; who are intending to sell the business on; whose site is totally bug-ridden and which they can't fix; whose site appears vulnerable to fraud; who keep screwing up the displayed statistics/RC's; who keep sending 'reimbursement' emails without good explanation; who frequently change the default sort-order causing wild shifts in income; etc, etc?
Why on earth would you do that?
Yes I'm serious that's why I did the math and I would guess she would have made 10-25% more income for the month (if not much more since non exclusive were hit pretty badly these last two months). Obviously there are other issues besides money that can affect ones choice but those are secondary to how much income I'm making. The point is that if she makes 25% of her income as a nonexclusive then as an exclusive all things being equal she should do about the same, all things aren't equal though and those things favor exclusives so she should do much better.
If you read the Jan sales thread on the iStock forums, you'll see that exclusives are all over the place: some reporting BME, some the very opposite.
The fact that some IS harshest critics still remain exclusive shows that IS is not doomed, yet.
For Lisa, it is a tough call. Not only she will benefit from higher earning, she can also focus on being more productive in producing more quality images. Then the flip side..., I am sure she knows what she is doing.
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Even if you were correct and it did result in '10-25% more income' ... but for how long with the way sales are dropping (and increasing elsewhere)? Three months later you might need to revert back to independent and then you've lost years of work in the sort-order positions, levels, rank, etc. You'd have to be mad to even contemplate it.
That's what I'm thinking. It's easy to look at one month and say that Lisa might have done better as an exclusive for that month alone. It's difficult to say that one month is indicative of a trend, and that the trend will continue. Especially when we're talking about the company that has a prior mark on their record of cutting pay rates once already, and they're also one of two companies that appears to be on the steepest decline for most independents. "Risky" doesn't even begin to describe the idea.
Although I have to admit I'm a bit biased by my own experience with istock. Seeing my istock earnings drop to just 6% of my monthly total for January, it's impossible for me to believe that anyone is better off as an exclusive. But obviously my personal experience factors heavily into that belief.
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That's true. My point with this was that without sales increasing from becoming exclusive (which they undoubtedly would have since the best match favored exclusives over nonexclusives in January) the difference in RCs and % might be enough alone to make becoming exclusive worth it. There would also be a higher % for thinkstock and Vetta and Agency files to add to income. So without an increase in sales I would guess overall income would have been higher. When I went exclusive it was a pretty simple calculation because the only thing that really changed was the %, now the RCs change and that can be as much of a difference in income as the royalty %.
I don't think there's anything wrong with your maths, it's Istock's past history and the general market trends that lend the flaw to your theory for me. If, last month, I'd have averaged $4 per sale at Istock (as an average reported exclusive figure) then I'd only have earned about half what I did as an independent. With improved best match positioning I might have done a little better but unlikley to be enough to make up the difference.
If that wasn't bad enough, when I look at my data and see where Istock appear to be heading relative to other agencies, SS in particular, then going exclusive would appear to be doomed to failure in the longer term.
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Even if you were correct and it did result in '10-25% more income' ... but for how long with the way sales are dropping (and increasing elsewhere)? Three months later you might need to revert back to independent and then you've lost years of work in the sort-order positions, levels, rank, etc. You'd have to be mad to even contemplate it.
Is the correct answer. All the reasons you've outlined above are reasons I would not dream of Istock exclusivity. Not to mention that the painstaking process of quitting all other sites takes a minimum of 6 months. To be honest, I am not even sure Istock will be around, in its current form, six months from now.
I really don't understand why I have to go over this every month with some exclusive or other, trying to persuade me to go exclusive with Istock. ???
I'm sure you all mean well, but with a portfolio of around 7k images, what you are suggesting is not a minor undertaking. It's a complete upheaval - a totally new career path. If Istock exclusivity wasn't tempting enough a couple of years ago, in their heyday, why would anyone consider upending their entire career now, when Istock are clearly floundering?
BTW, this entire discussion supposes that becoming exclusive is even an option, which due to a "bug" or by design, it isn't currently.
And just so there is no ambiguity: I HAVE NO INTENTION OF GOING EXCLUSIVE WITH ISTOCKPHOTO. So kindly stop trying to persuade me, because it's getting pretty tiresome having to repeat the litany of reasons that's a bad idea every month.
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BTW, this entire discussion supposes that becoming exclusive is even an option, which due to a "bug" or by design, it isn't currently.
Not trying to persuade you to become exclusive - I know you were seriously considering it a while back; but throughout the AR bug, it's still been possible to become exclusive, should one wish, if one has 500 dls.
The AR is fixed as of overnight last night UK time, so presumably that means that route is available again.
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:) IS Exclusive, BME, last BME was May 2010.
$ +40% over Jan 2011
ETA: January has never been one of my best months. At best, it has usually been an average to below average month each year. This has me excited for the rest of the year.
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Not trying to persuade you to become exclusive
Well thank God for that! ;)
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I really don't understand why I have to go over this every month with some exclusive or other, trying to persuade me to go exclusive with Istock. ???
I have to say, I was tempted to start a facetious thread congratulating you on your decision to finally go exclusive after many years on the fence. Maybe, next month. ;D
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Revenue up 24% over January, 2011. Up 14% over December, 2011. BMEs at SS and 123RF.
(Where I'm coming from: I do illustrations. I submit to 13 sites. Have been submitting about 40% less than in the same quarter last year.)
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| 01.2012 | 01.2011 | | RPD 01.2012 | RPD 01.2011 | |
| fotolia | 30% | 21% | +9 | 1,42$ | 1,79$ | -0,37$ |
| shutterstock | 26% | 25% | +1 | 0,55$ | 0,57$ | -0,02$ |
| dreamstime | 17% | 13% | +4 | 2,59$ | 2,46$ | +0,13$ |
| istock | 9% | 28% | -19 | 2,42$ | 2,82$ | -0,40$ |
| canstock | 8% | 8% | +0 | 2,10$ | 2,37$ | -0,27$ |
| bigstock | 5% | 2% | +3 | 2,03$ | 1,47$ | +0,56$ |
| 123rf | 3% | 1% | +2 | 0,75$ | 0,70$ | +0,05$ |
| glstock | 1% | | | 3,81$ | | |
| yay | 1% | 1% | +0 | 6,36$ | 3,23$ | +3,14$ |
| veer | 1% | 2% | -1 | 0,63$ | 2,45$ | -1,82$ |
| alltogether | | | | 1,12$ | 1,30$ | -0,18$ |
In January 2012 I had nearly the same download numbers as January 2011.
Cause of big comission cut at fotolia and istock, I got 14% less money in microstock.
But ok, I made not more than a handful of illustrations for stock in 2011 and can pay my bills.
I am an independent illustrator! and sold yesterday a non-stock-license!
So my totally January "RPD" was much better ! ;D
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^^^ Are you serious?
I think that covered it perfectly. The rest of the reasons were just frosting on that cake... (http://s5.postimage.org/zbmy1ps9v/cool_up.gif)
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
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Lisa FWIW I'm also not trying to convert you - although I have often looked at the stats and wondered how much the decision to remain independent has cost in $$ over the years. None of us really know what the future holds, and the problem with this system is that there's no way of knowing which way is the better until after you've taken a very serious decision. Even then a few shifts in the best match and it can make a massive difference to the end result.
So an approximation of my stats for the month (based on TS & Getty income being equal to December)
Compared to Dec 2011:
$$ -7%
DLs -1%
Compared to Jan 2011:
$$ +138%
Dls + 71%
(portfolio +106%)
I also had 2 footage sales this month on each of Pond 5 and SS, so its nice that those are starting to tick over a little bit.
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011. The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud. So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers".
I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives.
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I really don't understand why I have to go over this every month with some exclusive or other, trying to persuade me to go exclusive with Istock. ???
I have to say, I was tempted to start a facetious thread congratulating you on your decision to finally go exclusive after many years on the fence. Maybe, next month. ;D
ROFL!! Thanks for starting my day off with a great laugh Cory :D
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Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011. The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud. So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers".
I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives.
That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=286152&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=286152&page=1)
When Istock had '70% market share' exclusivity didn't exist as an option (as Shutterstock hadn't opened it's doors) and everyone was on 20%. When they did introduce it and you had sold 25K licenses to qualify for 40% commissions then Istock's share of most independents' earnings was very much lower (35% in my case in June 2007). Thankfully exclusivity was never quite attractive enough financially.
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When Istock had '70% market share' exclusivity didn't exist as an option (as Shutterstock hadn't opened it's doors) and everyone was on 20%. When they did introduce it and you had sold 25K licenses to qualify for 40% commissions then Istock's share of most independents' earnings was very much lower (35% in my case in June 2007).
Can you run that arithmetic past me again?
Are you saying that as an indy, you were getting 65% in June 2007? (from ..."IStock's share of most indies earnings was much lower, 35% in my case...")
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;
It's applicable to me. I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;
It's applicable to me. I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.
How many in December?
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153.
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;
It's applicable to me. I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.
That's an unimaginable rip off :o
BTW has anyone ever heard of a refund at SS? Of course no one in his right mind would demand it for a sub DL, I had ODs, SODs and ELs in mind
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153.
You're right. I only had about 20 all of which were in January. It was only about 2% of my sales and 3% of my earnings over the month though. In the context of the spectacular crash since it hardly registers as a blip.
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011. The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud. So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers".
I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives.
My figures are correct.
Most of my fraud took place on Boxing Day ($2.5k!!) and over the Xmas holiday period before January.
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.
It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.
Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.
It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.
Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.
might be worth asking any one can they do something programmatically through the API
providing an xml file with the file id, title, description and keywords
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
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iStock exclusive.
Compared to January 2011:
DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%
Compared to January 2010:
DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%
I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.
^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.
Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?
Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.
It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.
Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.
might be worth asking any one can they do something programmatically through the API
providing an xml file with the file id, title, description and keywords
I did think of that and you don't need access to the api since all the data is in DeepMeta which can export a CSV.
Unfortunately the flaw in that plan is that my images aren't tagged with the iStock image number or exactly the same title so you can't automate the process. That'll learn me for not adding the metadata in LR at creation time.
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
I'd say that's pocketchange compared to top 3 microstockers ;)
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
Lagereek: On whom must I perform perverted sexual acts in order to get into this "cool people"s club ???
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Jan started a bit slow but ended up being pretty good for me. SS, DT, and Alamy did well, IS did well considering my port there now (thanks to one big EL), and 123RF was a BME.
When I checked my stats today I was surprised to see that I've already passed 100$ on SS for this month - thank you EL fairy.
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
Lagereek: On whom must I perform perverted sexual acts in order to get into this "cool people"s club ???
real cool people don't do perverted sexual acts. ;)
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
So you think you're actually earning more than 5% of what Yuri is? I'm laughing my ass off ;D
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
I'd say that's pocketchange compared to top 3 microstockers ;)
Nah! this guy is also one of the highest paid dayrate photographers in the world, his got a total turnover of 3 million bucks per year, top microstockers dont even come up to his knee-caps.
What it does show however is, the revenues are still around, no matter how much doom and gloom, theres money to be made. So lets saddle up guys, we can topple that, hey. ;D
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
So you think you're actually earning more than 5% of what Yuri is? I'm laughing my ass off ;D
It all depends if you're talking earnings or profit. For some, especially Yuri, there's a big difference.
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
Lagereek: On whom must I perform perverted sexual acts in order to get into this "cool people"s club ???
real cool people don't do perverted sexual acts. ;)
Real cool people drink milk! with Lagavulin. :)
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
I'd say that's pocketchange compared to top 3 microstockers ;)
Nah! this guy is also one of the highest paid dayrate photographers in the world, his got a total turnover of 3 million bucks per year, top microstockers dont even come up to his knee-caps.
What it does show however is, the revenues are still around, no matter how much doom and gloom, theres money to be made. So lets saddle up guys, we can topple that, hey. ;D
That is impressive. But I guess Yuri is making about as much, but he also has a lot of expenses, so if we're talking about net earnings, then yes, he really doesn't even come up to his knee caps. But Lise and Sean who are earning less are netting more and I'm sure it's more than 28k/month
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
So you think you're actually earning more than 5% of what Yuri is? I'm laughing my ass off ;D
It all depends if you're talking earnings or profit. For some, especially Yuri, there's a big difference.
Indeed, I just mentioned that in my reply to lagereek. We were talking earnings, all lagereek mentioned was 28k. And you usually have a lot more expenses doing RM
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^^^ You can say what you want but you are wrong.
So you think you're actually earning more than 5% of what Yuri is? I'm laughing my ass off ;D
It all depends if you're talking earnings or profit. For some, especially Yuri, there's a big difference.
Indeed, I just mentioned that in my reply to lagereek. We were talking earnings, all lagereek mentioned was 28k. And you usually have a lot more expenses doing RM
No, no, there isnt a microstocker that even come close, just look at the likes of Demachelier and Lindberg, working on dayrates of 30K, work that out for a year and you get blind. Stock-photography has got some very big earners but its peanuts to some really famous dayrate shooters. Its a closed and hidden world.
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No, no, there isnt a microstocker that even come close, just look at the likes of Demachelier and Lindberg, working on dayrates of 30K, work that out for a year and you get blind. Stock-photography has got some very big earners but its peanuts to some really famous dayrate shooters. Its a closed and hidden world.
You're telling me these guys work every day, with no overhead or expenses at 30k a day? Hmmmm....
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
I'd say that's pocketchange compared to top 3 microstockers ;)
Nah! this guy is also one of the highest paid dayrate photographers in the world, his got a total turnover of 3 million bucks per year, top microstockers dont even come up to his knee-caps.
What it does show however is, the revenues are still around, no matter how much doom and gloom, theres money to be made. So lets saddle up guys, we can topple that, hey. ;D
That is impressive. But I guess Yuri is making about as much, but he also has a lot of expenses, so if we're talking about net earnings, then yes, he really doesn't even come up to his knee caps. But Lise and Sean who are earning less are netting more and I'm sure it's more than 28k/month
There is a HUGE difference between earning more then 28K and "pocket change"
there is not 1 person in the MS business that 28K (a month) is "pocket change" for them.
What do my earnings have to do with anything ?
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Unfortunately the flaw in that plan is that my images aren't tagged with the iStock image number or exactly the same title so you can't automate the process. That'll learn me for not adding the metadata in LR at creation time.
A suggestion... you can request to download your entire portfolio from IS for backup purposes. I think it costs like $75. You go to a web page and you click 1 by 1 to download each file. Takes a while but they do include the file number in the file name. I'd imagine that a programmer could find a way to match part of the file name that includes the file number to a line in a database/spreadsheet, and take the rest from there.
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And we think us microstockers earns money? get this then, cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?
Macro RM ?
Yep!
I'd say that's pocketchange compared to top 3 microstockers ;)
Nah! this guy is also one of the highest paid dayrate photographers in the world, his got a total turnover of 3 million bucks per year, top microstockers dont even come up to his knee-caps.
What it does show however is, the revenues are still around, no matter how much doom and gloom, theres money to be made. So lets saddle up guys, we can topple that, hey. ;D
That is impressive. But I guess Yuri is making about as much, but he also has a lot of expenses, so if we're talking about net earnings, then yes, he really doesn't even come up to his knee caps. But Lise and Sean who are earning less are netting more and I'm sure it's more than 28k/month
There is a HUGE difference between earning more then 28K and "pocket change"
there is not 1 person in the MS business that 28K (a month) is "pocket change" for them.
What do my earnings have to do with anything ?
Let's say Yuri earns around 3 mil a year. That's 10x more than 28k/month right? So the pocket change comparison stands.
Your earnings, that are well above average and I know you're satisfied with them (I'd be too), but I'm sure you're not fooling yourself into thinking you're earning anything more than a percent or 2 of what Yuri is. It just seemed funny to me, that you think even the top 3 microstockers don't earn at least 10x more than you do. Especially Yuri, outselling all exclusives, selling on virtually all other sites, macro as well and he takes on a ton of assignments.
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^^^ once again what do my earnings have to do with your (wrong) statement?
I STRONGLY doubt Yuri makes 3M a year, and even if so, a large sum of it isn't from MS.
I know give or take how much Sean here makes, why don't you ask him if 28K is "pocket change" for him ?
stop talking non sense.
And leave my earning out of it, it has NOTHING to do with Yuri, the top 3 or 5 or 10, 28K or pocketchange.
(and BTW I am not satisfiend at ALL with it).
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^^^ once again what do my earnings have to do with your (wrong) statement?
I STRONGLY doubt Yuri makes 3M a year, and even if so, a large sum of it isn't from MS.
I know give or take how much Sean here makes, why don't you ask him if 28K is "pocket change" for him ?
stop talking non sense.
And leave my earning out of it, it has NOTHING to do with Yuri, the top 3 or 5 or 10, 28K or pocketchange.
(and BTW I am not satisfiend at ALL with it).
I really can't understand your anger, why are you putting your exact earnings every month if you dislike so much talking about them? That being said, I'll leave you out of it from now on, I really didn't come here to argue with anyone. It's a numbers thread, so I like to do the numbers and comparisons. Let's just do a simple calculation on Yuri's earnings. He gets around 300k DLs/year, let's say his RPD is only 1,5$ so this alone makes it 450k/year. Let's say he makes 25% of MS money there (which is even more highly unlikely), which means he makes at least 1,8$ mil from MS alone. Then there's macro and commissioned work. Doesn't seem so unlikely anymore, now does it ;)
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No, no, there isnt a microstocker that even come close, just look at the likes of Demachelier and Lindberg, working on dayrates of 30K, work that out for a year and you get blind. Stock-photography has got some very big earners but its peanuts to some really famous dayrate shooters. Its a closed and hidden world.
You're telling me these guys work every day, with no overhead or expenses at 30k a day? Hmmmm....
yep they do indeed, both under extremley handsome contracts with Vogue, etc, been for years. These are the fellas responible for the likes of Cindy crawford, Schiffer, etc, etc.
They dont come cheap. :)
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Wow! That was 5 minutes I'll never get back. Oh well, off to keyword. ;D
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http://microstocktime.com/tool/stats/ss/user/2700/ (http://microstocktime.com/tool/stats/ss/user/2700/)
only 1k pictures in 4 months, some more to argue, goooo ;D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ9GjK2DSds[/youtube]
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Some comments here? baffling! some people here, really wants to get the right perspective on things and realize that we are all shooting stock, no more, no less. Living in a fools paradise is ok, as long as long as its not mistaken for reality, reality is, there are no dollar millionaries being stock-photographers and will never be, exept maybe for the owners of large agencies.
What we are ALL doing here ranks in fact as the cheapest and least paid of all forms of commercial photography and thats ok, its fun, :) none the less.
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Some comments here? baffling! some people here, really wants to get the right perspective on things and realize that we are all shooting stock, no more, no less. Living in a fools paradise is ok, as long as long as its not mistaken for reality, reality is, there are no dollar millionaries being stock-photographers and will never be, exept maybe for the owners of large agencies.
What we are ALL doing here ranks in fact as the cheapest and least paid of all forms of commercial photography and thats ok, its fun, :) none the less.
I do realize that, I never said otherwise, never dreamed of becoming a millionaire or anything. I for one would be satisfied with earning 2,3k/month, while OTOH some that just achieved it are not nearly satisfied with it - they're just so much more ambitious and want to reach for the stars. I just wanna make a living out of it and enjoy life. I don't care for millions, never have never will. I don't care for the material stuff anyway, it's not what makes me happy. It's a personal decision and whatever it is, it's the right one. It doesn't make me lazy for that (taking it easy or lacking ambition as some may see it) or someone never satisfied with his earnings, even though he/she makes 5 figures/month, greedy. That being said, go through my calculations and point out where I've made a mistake. I could be off, but I'm sure not off by 50% or even more.
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Well, Yuri claims to sell a photo every 8 seconds.
Theres 86,400 seconds in a day - so he sells 10,800 photos each day x 365 days = 3,942,000 sales per year.
Say his RPI is $1.5 (did I imagine that, or did someone say it above?) = $5,913,0000/year
50 employees x $50K (big guess here, isn't cost of living quite high in Denmark) = $250K salaries, likely more.
I'd say he's doing pretty well ;)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpK5IXhKr_A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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I for one would be satisfied with earning 2,3k/month...
Wait until you get there, then you'll want more. Or you can get all weird like me and realize that everyone is ripping you off. ;D
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Well, Yuri claims to sell a photo every 8 seconds.
My sales aren't that prolific, but none of mine get pennies from sub sites either.
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IS, nice and stable, right on last years average even with no ELs. I will take stable for as long as it comes.
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IS, nice and stable, right on last years average even with no ELs. I will take stable for as long as it comes.
Well, in spite of being an IS Diamond, non exclusive, my sales are way down there BUT! youre right, stabillity is the name of the game, I hold that before money, anytime. Stabillity in my books are, SS, FT, DT, DP, thats it.
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Well, Yuri claims to sell a photo every 8 seconds.
Theres 86,400 seconds in a day - so he sells 10,800 photos each day x 365 days = 3,942,000 sales per year.
Say his RPI is $1.5 (did I imagine that, or did someone say it above?) = $5,913,0000/year
50 employees x $50K (big guess here, isn't cost of living quite high in Denmark) = $250K salaries, likely more.
I'd say he's doing pretty well ;)
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpK5IXhKr_A&feature=player_embedded[/url][/youtube]
The video says he sells 4,400,000 licenses a year. I don't know what his average $/download would be.. but probably somewhere between $1.00-$2.00 given Shutterstock is probably a large percentage of those sales (less than $1.00).
50 employees x $50K is $2,500,000 (you missed a 0 :))
but I doubt all those employees are full time and I really doubt they are all in Denmark. He works a lot in South Africa and also has people working in India... Meaning I doubt all his 'employees' get 50K/year.. but would bet that his Danish employees cost him more than $50k/year
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Well, Yuri claims to sell a photo every 8 seconds.
Theres 86,400 seconds in a day - so he sells 10,800 photos each day x 365 days = 3,942,000 sales per year.
Say his RPI is $1.5 (did I imagine that, or did someone say it above?) = $5,913,0000/year
50 employees x $50K (big guess here, isn't cost of living quite high in Denmark) = $250K salaries, likely more.
I'd say he's doing pretty well ;)
[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpK5IXhKr_A&feature=player_embedded[/url][/youtube]
The video says he sells 4,400,000 licenses a year. I don't know what his average $/download would be.. but probably somewhere between $1.00-$2.00 given Shutterstock is probably a large percentage of those sales (less than $1.00).
50 employees x $50K is $2,500,000 (you missed a 0 :))
but I doubt all those employees are full time and I really doubt they are all in Denmark. He works a lot in South Africa and also has people working in India... Meaning I doubt all his 'employees' get 50K/year.. but would bet that his Danish employees cost him more than $50k/year
wow,50k what? us or euro?its really a good price for me,the average incoming here is about 1.6k us...i will be rich here if i got those pay, lol ;D
so Yuri hire me , please LOL
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I for one would be satisfied with earning 2,3k/month...
Wait until you get there, then you'll want more. Or you can get all weird like me and realize that everyone is ripping you off. ;D
I'm not saying I wouldn't like more, probably more as an achievement (and knowing I'm competent enough to do even better), than earning money from that point on, but I would be more than satisfied earning that and there's no chance on earth I'd be disappointed hitting the plateau at that point.
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.. but would bet that his Danish employees cost him more than $50k/year
I'll do his keywording for >$50k per year!
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.. but would bet that his Danish employees cost him more than $50k/year
I'll do his keywording for >$50k per year!
I bet Sean would do it for free: So he'd get rid of his fiercest rival ;D
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I am up 42% compared to last month. My 4 top agencies are: Shutterstock, Alamy, Depositphotos, Veer
More at http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2012/02/stock-photography-sales-statistic.html (http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2012/02/stock-photography-sales-statistic.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201201px590.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201201Timeline590.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201201Total590.jpg)
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it includes referrals right Henrik?