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Title: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Stitcherladyxx on June 17, 2009, 01:30
With this recent news about screwing over StocXpert out of photos.com and Jupiter (I know the whole name and can't think of it lol), are you still going to upload there?  I know some were opted out.

I'm on the fence because it feels like a slow slide to them simply closing it.  At the same time, they could surprise me.  I'm still digesting all this.  No wonder my sales have tanked there.  They were really good while they lasted too.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Clivia on June 17, 2009, 01:45
I am still getting good sales there, and while the sales last I will carry on uploading, although they are further down my priority list.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: sam100 on June 17, 2009, 02:08
I'll restart uploading when the no views bug is fixed.

Patrick H.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Freezingpictures on June 17, 2009, 02:12
StockXpert is on hold for a while now, since I did not see new images getting sold. And Getty meddling with StockXpert does not exactly encourages me to upload more.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: MicrostockExp on June 17, 2009, 03:04
I stopped since they rejected most of the last pictures I submitted, waiting for the next payout to cash out...hopefully.....
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Milinz on June 17, 2009, 03:30
Well... No new uploads there for now...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: fotografer on June 17, 2009, 03:57
I won't upload any there this summer until we find out whether the site will continue or not. 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Perry on June 17, 2009, 05:11
I'm still uploading, mostly because it's so easy.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Squat on June 17, 2009, 07:26
On the thread I started a long long time ago, I mentioned that I had a good change in StockXpert's review time ie. back to the same day approval. This is good news for me, as it is what I was getting from StockXpert from the time I joined till about 6 months ago.
Some of you say it's only because no one is uploading; which could be  bad news. depending on how you feel about StockXpert.
In my case, since the reviewers have shown an interest in my new images once again, I will get more new images ready for StockXpert, and as soon as I see my sales getting back to normal I will upload these new images.
I like to try to treat StockXpert like many of you here treat SS, in other word: I will feed the beast every time the beast works for me.

I am still confident for StockXpert to get back to normal and behave like the old StockXpert, the StockXpert we all used to like so much to contribute.

But, will I move my stuff to IS? No. I like StockXpert .
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: puravida on June 17, 2009, 07:33
But, will I move my stuff to IS? No. I like StockXpert .

You don't like IS?
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: null on June 17, 2009, 07:42
You don't like IS?

Everybody likes IS. The problem is that IS doesn't like everybody  :P
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Squat on June 17, 2009, 07:51
You don't like IS?

Everybody likes IS. The problem is that IS doesn't like everybody  :P

lol well said FlemishDreams.
puravida, to make an analogy:  when I date, I date sincere women, I don't like women who play mind games with me ;)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gbcimages on June 17, 2009, 08:34
I still upload to them,I'll continue until whatever happens. I won't try to get in IS.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: mattb on June 17, 2009, 08:58
I had stopped but I think I might start back up again. Almost all of my recent sales have been from StockXpert and at least for me, it looks like the view problem has been fixed. I'm starting to see views on my newer images although all my sales are still on my older ones.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: null on June 17, 2009, 09:08
when I date, I date sincere women

Those are like Snow White, Santa Claus and honest lawyers. They don't exist.  ;D
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gbcimages on June 17, 2009, 09:34
when I date, I date sincere women

Those are like Snow White, Santa Claus and honest lawyers. They don't exist.  ;D

That's a good one! :)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: helix7 on June 17, 2009, 10:27

Had my BDE this month at StockXpert in 2 years. So yeah, still uploading...


Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: oboy on June 17, 2009, 10:51
I am continue to upload there. The sale are still good, and it is easy to submit images there. Who knows what will happen in the future there? As long as this is not clear and I have sale, I will not change anything.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: m@m on June 17, 2009, 11:24
I contacted StockXpert's support asking them about the future of the site as well as the commissions accumulated there, and this is what I got back:

"We have not been told that there is no plan to shut StockXpert down in the short term so you will continue to get earnings from StockXpert. In the event of it closing, you will be informed at that time and more info will be available.

Until then it is business as usual and there is no need for you to worry."

So based on that and a couple of subscription sales today, I will stay uploading to StockXpert until further notice (or at least for 90 more days).  ;)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stockastic on June 17, 2009, 11:53
... except that "as usual" means no views on new images. 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: MikLav on June 17, 2009, 12:03
I am still getting good sales on StockXpert from my old photos - but no view no sales from the recent ones. So I am not uploading for the last few weeks but I am ready to resume if the things will change.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: m@m on June 17, 2009, 12:04
In my case, I've notice that new pictures start to get some views after a couple of weeks of uploading...but in the other hand, everything changes there very fast, you just never know, so, views today none tomorrow...very unpredictable.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Pixart on June 17, 2009, 12:25
"We have not been told that there is no plan to shut StockXpert down in the short term so you will continue to get earnings from StockXpert. In the event of it closing, you will be informed at that time and more info will be available.

Until then it is business as usual and there is no need for you to worry."


Play on words so they don't have to lie? 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: WarrenPrice on June 17, 2009, 12:36
Uploaded a few images this morning.  I have nothing at iStock and have no plans to join.  Uploading images to StockXpert that are NOT on IS seems like a way to defy the inevitable.  Or, maybe I'm a little naive?
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Squat on June 17, 2009, 12:46
"We have not been told that there is no plan to shut StockXpert down in the short term so you will continue to get earnings from StockXpert. In the event of it closing, you will be informed at that time and more info will be available.

Until then it is business as usual and there is no need for you to worry."


Play on words so they don't have to lie? 

Not a very positive message. Every sentence uses the negative form (NOT been told, NO plan)(NO need).


Uploaded a few images this morning.  I have nothing at iStock and have no plans to join.  Uploading images to StockXpert that are NOT on IS seems like a way to defy the inevitable.  Or, maybe I'm a little naive?


And what IS the INEVITABLE?
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: travismanley on June 17, 2009, 12:55
not happy but, still uploading.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on June 17, 2009, 15:36
Can't see a reason to continue. You only have to look at the sales distribution to see that soon the income will be way down. Perhaps for some of the big guns who like to upload everywhere but not for me.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: travismanley on June 17, 2009, 15:41
Can't see a reason to continue. You only have to look at the sales distribution to see that soon the income will be way down. Perhaps for some of the big guns who like to upload everywhere but not for me.

Little income is still better than no income  ;)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: epixx on June 17, 2009, 18:54
Still uploading. Had my first 100% rejected batch in a long time today. Rejects for cropping (food photos) and property release (swimming pool).
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on June 17, 2009, 21:00
Can't see a reason to continue. You only have to look at the sales distribution to see that soon the income will be way down. Perhaps for some of the big guns who like to upload everywhere but not for me.

Little income is still better than no income  ;)

True, but not enough to offset upload time etc. I'll leave the current images up and see how it shakes out over the next 6 months and go from there.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: michaeldb on June 18, 2009, 00:53
SS has a thread on the StockXpert changes. On it jmci wrote:  "When I think of the furor they caused when they first started that scheme..."
I remember that. Before the tax withholding thing at SS, just about the biggest furor to ever happen in microstock was when StockXpert said it was going to sell its image thru Jupiter. People went insane with rage, stopped uploading, threatened to pull their port from StockXpert in droves!

Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.
 :) :(
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: grp_photo on June 18, 2009, 01:56
SS has a thread on the StockXpert changes. On it jmci wrote:  "When I think of the furor they caused when they first started that scheme..."
I remember that. Before the tax withholding thing at SS, just about the biggest furor to ever happen in microstock was when StockXpert said it was going to sell its image thru Jupiter. People went insane with rage, stopped uploading, threatened to pull their port from StockXpert in droves!

Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.
 :) :(
You are absolutely right! No wonder they can't take as serious and treat us like sh*t!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gostwyck on June 18, 2009, 05:14
SS has a thread on the StockXpert changes. On it jmci wrote:  "When I think of the furor they caused when they first started that scheme..."
I remember that. Before the tax withholding thing at SS, just about the biggest furor to ever happen in microstock was when StockXpert said it was going to sell its image thru Jupiter. People went insane with rage, stopped uploading, threatened to pull their port from StockXpert in droves!

Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.
 :) :(

What actually happened was that the JIU/PC license included the rights that elsewhere would have required an EL. Hardly surprising that contributors didn't want to sell EL's for 30c and thus the furore. I've got a feeling that the original offering was not optional either.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: hqimages on June 18, 2009, 05:45
SS has a thread on the StockXpert changes. On it jmci wrote:  "When I think of the furor they caused when they first started that scheme..."
I remember that. Before the tax withholding thing at SS, just about the biggest furor to ever happen in microstock was when StockXpert said it was going to sell its image thru Jupiter. People went insane with rage, stopped uploading, threatened to pull their port from StockXpert in droves!

Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.
 :) :(


What actually happened was that the JIU/PC license included the rights that elsewhere would have required an EL. Hardly surprising that contributors didn't want to sell EL's for 30c and thus the furore. I've got a feeling that the original offering was not optional either.


What really happened is documented here: http://www.draiochtwebdesign.com/blog/stockxpert-contributors-begin-to-pull-out (http://www.draiochtwebdesign.com/blog/stockxpert-contributors-begin-to-pull-out)

And by the way, don't mock protests like that. That protest is the reason why you have the privilege of opting out on istock, they dare not make it compulsory after what happened.

Mind you, I think istock will give people time to get used to it, and then remove the opt out after a while, under the guise that, they can't offer 'consistancy' to their customers unless everyone is opted in.. I hope you guys are ready.. because I don't see as much fight in people at the moment..
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: cidepix on June 18, 2009, 07:33
StockXpert is pretty good for me even without JIU or photos-com, so of course I am uploading as usual.

IS would be mad to shut StockXpert down completely.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gostwyck on June 18, 2009, 08:35
StockXpert is pretty good for me even without JIU or photos-com, so of course I am uploading as usual.

IS would be mad to shut StockXpert down completely.

I'd agree. The upload process via ftp is simple, quick and reliable and inspection is about the fastest of all agencies. I had a $50 EL sale there the other day too __ which was nice.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Stitcherladyxx on June 18, 2009, 09:18
LOL  Yeah now that I've cooled off and did some designing...it's easy to FTP there, so I'll just keep pluggin away.  It sure is hard not to read between the lines though.  Hopefully they'll keep it.  I really like StockXpert.   ;D
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Karimala on June 18, 2009, 10:38
I haven't decided yet if I'm still going to upload.  Feeling quite rebellious about this whole situation.  The whole idea of submitting images to any Getty-owned site at this point makes me sick to my stomach, and I'm not into the idea of supporting a company that continuously makes decisions that hurt its contributors. 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: takestock on June 18, 2009, 16:38
I still upload to them,I'll continue until whatever happens. I won't try to get in IS.
  Same here - but surely we can expect a drop in sales.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gbcimages on June 18, 2009, 16:48
sales are fewer and far between now. I've had only 4 dls this month.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: eppic on June 18, 2009, 22:54
I haven't uploaded at StockXpert for the past few weeks as I've been busy with a couple photoshoots and building up my Veer port.  I usually wind down uploading aroung this time of year anyway as summer I find is kinda slow for stock sales anyway.
By summer's end SS should have their tax requirements figured out (hopefully), the StockXpert debacle will have settled down, and the first signs of the viability of Veer will be coming into play. Im taking a bit of a wait and see approach over the summer.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: bad to the bone on June 19, 2009, 02:17
Still uploading at StockXpert because same images are rejected by Istock are accepted and sell just in the minute by StockXpert. They do also if they slip throug the review at istock but most of them where rejected.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Clivia on June 19, 2009, 02:21
I wondered if at some time in the future they may merge the two sites. I want to have as many as possible istock rejects on the SX site if that happens!
May never happen, but you never know, Getty seem mad enough to do it.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: bad to the bone on June 19, 2009, 02:49
@clivia
If they want to close StockXpert, they would - in my opinion. Maybe they will pick out only portfolios what sells, but they have to integrate them if they want to integrate the customers of StockXpert.
Thats one reason more to upload because i sell at StockXpert, same images what are rejected by istock.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: madelaide on June 19, 2009, 05:26
I am not uploading to micros at the moment, but if I were, I would refrain from uploading there for a while, except for seasonal images.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: helix7 on June 19, 2009, 09:12
SS has a thread on the StockXpert changes. On it jmci wrote:  "When I think of the furor they caused when they first started that scheme..."
I remember that. Before the tax withholding thing at SS, just about the biggest furor to ever happen in microstock was when StockXpert said it was going to sell its image thru Jupiter. People went insane with rage, stopped uploading, threatened to pull their port from StockXpert in droves!

Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.
 :) :(

I seriously think that a microstock company could say, "We're giving each contributor a $1,000 summer bonus, no strings attached," and some people would be upset about it. :)

Quite a fickle group we are...

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Squat on June 19, 2009, 10:07
I haven't uploaded at StockXpert for the past few weeks as I've been busy with a couple photoshoots and building up my Veer port.  I usually wind down uploading aroung this time of year anyway as summer I find is kinda slow for stock sales anyway.
By summer's end SS should have their tax requirements figured out (hopefully), the StockXpert debacle will have settled down, and the first signs of the viability of Veer will be coming into play. Im taking a bit of a wait and see approach over the summer.

Me too. I think that's the best thing to do.  The only thing moving are the old images on Dreamstime, StockXpert, SS,etc.. as most of us are already finding out in the other thread discussions . Summer is never a fast time anyway, so you are right, may as well top up on our SV transfer at Veer, wait for StockXpert to settle then resume uploading to all the sites when Autumn arrives. And hopefully, we will all get that new lense or camera we are planning for ourselves this Christmas
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: madelaide on June 19, 2009, 10:14
Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.

I don't think the doubt is about the "loss" of Jupiter/Photos.com deal, but the changes that may come to StockXpert.  A reduction of our commissions is a fear.  However, I don't think StockXpert has a minimum time they retains our images, like DT and BigStock do, so it would not be a problem deleting new images should one decide to close the account with StockXpert.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: lisafx on June 19, 2009, 16:38
I had figured on not uploading any more because I assume they are going to be shut down.  But since I am still getting sales I decided to upload my latest batch there yesterday.

What a surprise to check in today and find they were all approved and one had sold already. 

Guess they aren't dead yet :)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: WarrenPrice on June 19, 2009, 16:56
This is making my brain hurt.  I don't have any images at iStock.  I've recently opted out of subs at StockXpert.  My sales are dismal EVERYWHERE.  So, why not support StockXpert? 

None of the images I have at StockXpert will be on IS or their SubSites.  I wonder how many others will have unique images (not on an iStock subsidiary) at StockXpert.  Won't IS be dumping all those images if they close StockXpert?  Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database?  Won't I have a better chance of reaching a payout if I keep uploading?  What is the worst thing that could happen to my images if IS closes StockXpert? 

Is my reasoning totally naive?
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: fotografer on June 20, 2009, 01:54
That one statement makes so much sense and has convinced me to keep uploading there when I had already decided that it wasn't worth the bother. :)
  Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database? 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: null on June 20, 2009, 03:34
I keep uploading to StockXpert as usual. The game is only over when the fat lady sings. Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

What may happen is that iStock will ask contributors on both IS and StockXpert to remove the images on StockXpert that are already on IS. Which sounds reasonable.
What also may happen is that IS exclusives may submit their IS rejected images to StockXpert, which would be great for them, since now, they don't have any income at all from rejected images.

IS and StockXpert could coexist and complement each other like Veer and Veer Marketplace: an A and a B site: different quality, different images, different prices, different customers.
If Getty doesn't have a clear business mind to implement this scheme, the investors group that owns Getty will insist on it.

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: willie on June 20, 2009, 07:37
I keep uploading to StockXpert as usual. The game is only over when the fat lady sings. Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

What may happen is that iStock will ask contributors on both IS and StockXpert to remove the images on StockXpert that are already on IS. Which sounds reasonable.
What also may happen is that IS exclusives may submit their IS rejected images to StockXpert, which would be great for them, since now, they don't have any income at all from rejected images.

IS and StockXpert could coexist and complement each other like Veer and Veer Marketplace: an A and a B site: different quality, different images, different prices, different customers.
If Getty doesn't have a clear business mind to implement this scheme, the investors group that owns Getty will insist on it.



The first sensible and doer "prediction" here .

But yes, I think that's not just a fresh breath of optimism to keep StockXpert, but a very well thought out forecast not based on facts or sensibility.

Flmeish ,I gave you a heart for this comment, but it said No, spread the love. Sorry.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: astrocady on June 20, 2009, 08:56
Now when StockXpert says it's not going to sell through Jupiter, people are going to stop uploading again. We microstockers are strange group.

I don't think the doubt is about the "loss" of Jupiter/Photos.com deal, but the changes that may come to StockXpert.  A reduction of our commissions is a fear.  However, I don't think StockXpert has a minimum time they retains our images, like DT and BigStock do, so it would not be a problem deleting new images should one decide to close the account with StockXpert.

Before StockXpert entered into the sub market with photos.com and JI, I had brisk sales at payasyougo prices.  Once the sup thing when into effect, the payasyougo sales have STOPPED.  I only get sub sales now.  I read this as most buyers are no longer shopping StockXpert since they know they can get most of the same pictures at photos/ji for less money.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Pixart on June 20, 2009, 10:50
Or that they started marketing photos.com and neglected StockXpert.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: madelaide on June 20, 2009, 11:06
Uploading makes StockXpert stronger. Getty will never close it down since the StockXpert collection is different from the one on iStock by the different acceptance policies. Closing it down would mean losing income and feed the competition like SS, DT and FT that mostly carry the same images as StockXpert.

I like that, Flemish, well put.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: cathyslife on June 20, 2009, 12:45
My sales are still going strong on StockXpert and I don't see any reason to stop uploading. If they close it down, then my images will be removed. I might as well make as much as I can until that happens. As long as the pricing structure stays the same, no skin off my nose.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: WarrenPrice on June 20, 2009, 13:05
Why would it mention that? We don't intend to go out of business...

Above is a post from StockXpert admin in response to a post about the StockXpert agreement not mentioning what happens to the balance when they go out of business.  I found that response very encouraging.

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stockastic on June 20, 2009, 13:29
I'd find it more encouraging if Admin actually answered the questions instead of just posting more vague, ambiguous teasers.  



Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: puravida on June 20, 2009, 15:33
What stockastic? You mean DOUBLE SPEAK, like politicians, or CEOs before they "restructure" and lay off everyone and then give themselves a fat bonus because there is a recession , or the company is in deep sh#t?
Well, it's in their blood? or should I say - in their mouth. They don't know how to tell the simple truth, or won't.
This way, they can say : we never said anything about NOT PAYING YOU, we only said we DON'T INTEND to go out of business. We went out of business, BUT that wasn't our INTENT.
You get it? No lies!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: borg on August 03, 2009, 03:18
StockXpert PPD 5$... Not bad , not bad!!!

StockXpert, live long and prosper!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on August 03, 2009, 12:58
while sales have been  'normal'...     I am leary about uploading..   I like StockXpert and have had a good relationship with them and I want to upload....but...  sadly,  StockXpert isnt calling the shots now,   big brother seems to be....   
   and how does that translate down the road?  Quien sabe?  8)=tom
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: puravida on August 03, 2009, 13:12
while sales have been  'normal'...     I am leary about uploading..   I like StockXpert and have had a good relationship with them and I want to upload....but...  sadly,  StockXpert isnt calling the shots now,   big brother seems to be....   
   and how does that translate down the road?  Quien sabe?  8)=tom

Quien sabe?
StockXpert me parece muerto.  como un cuerpo sin vivo ahorita cubierto con gusanos! guacala ! :o
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: cidepix on August 03, 2009, 13:21
Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database?  
Is my reasoning totally naive?

 ;D Well, I can't make StockXpert better because I am almost equally approved at both StockXpert and IS.

The images IS reject are mostly crap anyway. At least in my case. I am very harsh on myself, and I suggest you do it too. Haven't seen your port but I think everyone should questions themselves before they get mad at the sites. Your approval ratio on IS will go up, if you find the answers! It is not like IS hates you  :D You gotta figure out what they want and stop shooting what they don't want.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: WarrenPrice on August 03, 2009, 13:36
I don't upload to IS.  That was my point.  If they want to sell my images, they will have to sell them thru StockXpert ... or, let one of my other sites sell them.   :-\

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: cidepix on August 03, 2009, 13:48
I don't upload to IS.  That was my point.  If they want to sell my images, they will have to sell them thru StockXpert ... or, let one of my other sites sell them.   :-\



They already let you sell through StockXpert.

Why wouldn't you uplaod to IS as well? There are enough customers for everysite. One of my friends is obsessed with dreamstime for example and no matter how many sites I introduce to him, he will still buy from dreamstime. Weird but true. Don't miss the IS obsessives!  ;D

Upload to IS, it is better than StockXpert. In my case 3 times better. For you, it could be even bigger difference. Gotta try!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: puravida on August 03, 2009, 14:02
Won't StockXpert have a better chance of surviving if we keep uploading "unique" images there, padding their database? 
Is my reasoning totally naive?

 ;D Well, I can't make StockXpert better because I am almost equally approved at both StockXpert and IS.

The images IS reject are mostly crap anyway. At least in my case. I am very harsh on myself, and I suggest you do it too. Haven't seen your port but I think everyone should questions themselves before they get mad at the sites. Your approval ratio on IS will go up, if you find the answers! It is not like IS hates you  :D You gotta figure out what they want and stop shooting what they don't want.

 not sure if I entirely agree with you.
at one time, it was easier to get approval with StockXpert than IS.
but lately, i find it weird that some of my rejected stuff at StockXpert are getting approved at IS.  you would expect it to be either equal or IS being more strict.

maybe i had atilla at StockXpert that day. rejected all my images which a week later got all approved by IS.

anyway, i think StockXpert is nuts and prefer it to die anyway. IS is definitely the place to be.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: borg on August 03, 2009, 14:11
Today I sold one of my photos for 5 $ on StockXpert...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Clivia on August 03, 2009, 14:42
I am still getting plenty of PPD sales, so I will continue to upload until they stop. I do lots of illustrations, and IS doesn't like raster illustrations so much, so I will carry on them all to SX.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Talanis on August 03, 2009, 15:39
I'll upload to StockXpert as long as it's open. Sales are still good for me there although 40-50% comes from JIU/Photos.com.Even without those though, it would still beat the crappy 123RF and every site that comes below that so why would I stop uploading there?

Upload process is easy and I don't remember the last time they rejected one of my photos.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Allsa on August 03, 2009, 16:01
I'm still uploading, but I've noticed a big drop in sales recently. Sales at StockXpert seem to fluctuate a lot more than the amount of change I see at other sites, I wonder why? I've pretty much always been happy with them, but I do wish they had never started with subscriptions. Terrible idea, but everyone's doing it, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on August 03, 2009, 20:15
Quien sabe?
StockXpert me parece muerto.  como un cuerpo sin vivo ahorita cubierto con gusanos! guacala ! :o

Yikes, obladihell.... my espanol isnt all that good, but.... I dont think StockXpert is yet a place dead and filled with worms... :D LOL  .....or did I miss in my translation? 8)=tom
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: m@m on August 03, 2009, 21:02
That's a pretty good translation Senor Tom!  ;)...lol
I stopped uploading to StockXpert a couple of weeks ago, too many strange things are happening there at the moment, I think I'll wait untill next month, after the 90 days have past and see what gives, very little sense at this moment to keep uploading without knowing what's going to happen with the Getty takeover, besides I still get sales from them on my older photos, so for now I'll just wait and see!  ;)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gostwyck on August 04, 2009, 04:34
I'm still uploading there but the site is seriously flawed in several ways, mainly due to the abuse of a few contributors.

There was the issue of some contributors having worked out how to bump their images up the sort order. That was known about by Admin months ago and is supposed to have been corrected but I don't think it has been. There appears to be a huge element of luck in how images perform at StockXpert due to the default sort-order algorithm. The vast majority of my sales at StockXpert come from an absurdly small proportion of my portfolio and most of my best-sellers there are fairly ordinary images which don't do particularly well elsewhere.

Yesterday I was researching how many views my recently uploaded images had had by doing a few searches and sorting them by "Date, descending". I noticed that one particular contributor had somehow managed to upload (and had approved) about 300 images from the same series of a couple of pizzas __ basically their entire allowance of 25-images-per day for 11 consecutive days! Obviously this has just shoved all the images approved before them so far down the search order that they are unlikely to be seen again. Just search for 'pizza chilli' to view them yourselves. IMHO this is crazy and is detrimental both to buyers and other contributors.

Is anybody actually taking charge of StockXpert? It just seems to be drifting along like a latter-day Marie Celeste.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: abimages on August 04, 2009, 15:58


Yesterday I was researching how many views my recently uploaded images had had by doing a few searches and sorting them by "Date, descending". I noticed that one particular contributor had somehow managed to upload (and had approved) about 300 images from the same series of a couple of pizzas __ basically their entire allowance of 25-images-per day for 11 consecutive days! Obviously this has just shoved all the images approved before them so far down the search order that they are unlikely to be seen again. Just search for 'pizza chilli' to view them yourselves. IMHO this is crazy and is detrimental both to buyers and other contributors.



I looked, that is surely crazy!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: nialat on August 06, 2009, 14:38
I was still uploading but I think that I might stop for a while... I just got a mass rejections of 110 pictures... >:(

0 were accepted... the previous batch of about 120 pictures were accepted at about 85%

I hate that when this happens  :(

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Norebbo on August 07, 2009, 09:27
Still uploading, but doing it reluctantly. I like StockXpert, but I just have a bad feeling that we are all going to wake up one day soon to find that Getty has pulled the plug.

From a business perspective, I find this rather fascinating. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Getty conference rooms when they are discussing their strategy for StockXpert. I just can't understand why they would want to keep it.

This whole thing reminds me of the American Airlines buyout of TWA some years back. AA swore up and down that they would keep TWA employess (and the St. Louis hub) intact, but...it didn't quite work out that way. Ultimately, they got what they wanted from TWA - some routes, planes, and a few employees - but they were very quick to eliminate what they didn't need or want.

Anyway, all we can do is sit and wait...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: willie on August 08, 2009, 11:31
I was still uploading but I think that I might stop for a while... I just got a mass rejections of 110 pictures... >:(

0 were accepted... the previous batch of about 120 pictures were accepted at about 85%

I hate that when this happens  :(



maybe it's a blessing in disguise.
we will all soon be wearing black for StockXpert, you would be wiser to submit to IStock .
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stockastic on August 10, 2009, 13:06
I emailed support at StockXpert, asking how to close my account.  That was 5 days ago.  No response.

I don't want them in possesion of all my images when they go dark.

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: sharpshot on August 10, 2009, 16:59
Sales are still good, so I will keep uploading for now.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: sam100 on August 10, 2009, 17:04
4772 images online... 3 sales so far this month... 1.5 $ earned... that says enough.

Patrick H.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stockastic on August 10, 2009, 19:33
Somehow, a couple of months ago, StockXpert contributors got split into 2 groups. Before then, I was getting a normal number of sales for my small portfolio. After that point - no views, 1 sale per month.  For other people, nothing changed.

Maybe it was a database update that only made it halfway - or some other change perpetually in progress.  Maybe Getty just doesn't like me.  I don't care anymore, I just want out.  I guess I'll have to delete them all manually.

Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: anonymous on August 10, 2009, 21:26
DT and StockXpert are keeping my summer out of the toilet.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: kaarsten on August 11, 2009, 02:56
By now StockXpert still got plenty of sales every month. So i will submit images until sales decrease or stop.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Allsa on August 11, 2009, 08:30
My earnings are down on StockXpert, mostly because most sales are subscription these days. I really wish they never introduced subscriptions, my earnings dropped as a result, and never recovered. They are still worth uploading to for me, I hope Getty doesn't pull the plug.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: PixelBytes on August 11, 2009, 10:42
By now StockXpert still got plenty of sales every month. So i will submit images until sales decrease or stop.

Me too.  Sales keep coming there, but unfortunately the payouts don't.  Though they used to pay out in three days like clockwork, every payout for the past several months has been extremely late and only come after repeated requests to customer service. 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Moonb007 on August 11, 2009, 13:49
I will hang on to them, wait and see what they do first.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: borg on August 14, 2009, 06:46
I don't know about your sales, but i have BME on StockXpert this month...
I am selling more and more everyday, most StockXpert sales... :P
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: epixx on August 14, 2009, 11:53
I don't get this. For some, it's apparently business as usual, but for some, like me, it's completely dead. Even those photos that used to have very steady sales at StockXpert have grinded to a complete halt. It's a week or more between each sale for me now.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stockastic on August 14, 2009, 12:03
epixx, welcom to the land of the dead.  The weirdest thing is the complete lack of response from StockXpert.  It's  totally lame of Getty to buy a company and leave it twisting in the wind like this.  I'm only expecting more of this sort of craziness, as fallout from their recent acquisition binge. 


Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: borg on August 14, 2009, 13:05
Veery strange!
Today a have 4 subs sales (Photos com and JI) and one StockXpert PPD, very goof for me.
Also, I had payment several day ago, money came on my MB account in two days...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: lisafx on August 14, 2009, 18:38
Veery strange!
Today a have 4 subs sales (Photos com and JI) and one StockXpert PPD, very goof for me.
Also, I had payment several day ago, money came on my MB account in two days...

Interesting.  Wondering if they are having a problem with paypal again.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: stokfoto on August 15, 2009, 07:03
I am still uploading and no problem with reviews they are quick and hardly any rejections  I get but sales are real slow especially new files get no views at all!!
I wish Getty  made an announcement on StockXpert 's future. as far as i know nothing  was said so far???
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Clivia on August 15, 2009, 07:14
Veery strange!
Today a have 4 subs sales (Photos com and JI) and one StockXpert PPD, very goof for me.
Also, I had payment several day ago, money came on my MB account in two days...

Interesting.  Wondering if they are having a problem with paypal again.

I got paid by Paypal very quickly, I think it was three days from my request. I think it may depend on timing, if they are having payment once or twice a month you could end up waitig for the next run.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: lisafx on August 15, 2009, 10:31

I got paid by Paypal very quickly, I think it was three days from my request. I think it may depend on timing, if they are having payment once or twice a month you could end up waitig for the next run.

When was your last payout?  The slowdown seems to have hit around the third of August. 
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: borg on August 15, 2009, 13:29
Ha!

Today StockXpert lose 2nd place between my portfolios...Usually StockXpert was on 4 to 6 place monthly...
But still this is my BME...

Really, I don't know what to think, coincidence with 530 images in portfolio??
Maybe!
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: thaimacky on August 16, 2009, 00:18
nothing has changed for me on StockXpert so far. review time was a little slow at the beginning of this month. last batch was fast, though. no rejections - sales normal. i'll keep uploading...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on August 16, 2009, 13:09
I'm still uploading there but the site is seriously flawed in several ways, mainly due to the abuse of a few contributors.

Yesterday I was researching how many views my recently uploaded images had had by doing a few searches and sorting them by "Date, descending". I noticed that one particular contributor had somehow managed to upload (and had approved) about 300 images from the same series of a couple of pizzas __ basically their entire allowance of 25-images-per day for 11 consecutive days! Obviously this has just shoved all the images approved before them so far down the search order that they are unlikely to be seen again. Just search for 'pizza chilli' to view them yourselves. IMHO this is crazy and is detrimental both to buyers and other contributors.

Celeste.

Celeste,   you've hit a topic that has been irking me since day one in the biz ..   4 dozen (or a lot more-300) of the same subject from angles changing a couple degrees! (and not with StockXpert in particular).
   I was looking thru one of the sites that had popped up on another thread concerning ripped off images to see if any of mine were there.  I could not believe how many times a shot of some guy with headsets on showed up. And the fact was, it looked like the shooter took a pic, moved the cam 2 inches shot again, moved 2 inches and shot, again and again and again. I am not exaggerating. Honestly, there had to be a dozen and a half of the, essentially, same shot.  HOW does stuff like this get accepted and why?  There were several other subjects the same deal. 
   What an incredibly nonesensical waste of my time.   If I were a buyer, on a deadline, I'd be totally ticked and be looking elsewhere for images. NOT TO MENTION.... these images had nothing to do with the search I plugged in.  Hence, spam keywording.

On the topic of uploading to StockXpert...  I've gone into holding pattern... HOWEVER,  my sales have not declined there  and much to my surprise,  I'm still experiencing sales (this week) with JIU & Photo.com.  I thought that was supposed to be over by now?  While I have been with IS for a few years,  I'd still like to upload to StockXpert... they have been, more than not, my #3 sales site. It would be a shame in my book if they closed down.  8)=tom
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on September 18, 2009, 14:14
hey....   I'm still getting JIU sales on StockXpert....
 what's the latest?  werent they supposed to be shut down by now? 8)=tom
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: packerguy on September 18, 2009, 14:18
^^^ I was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: sharpshot on September 18, 2009, 14:27
Perhaps they couldn't get enough images opted in through istock?  $0.25 is a poor deal and I wont go along with it.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: takestock on September 18, 2009, 14:51
hey....   I'm still getting JIU sales on StockXpert....
 what's the latest?  werent they supposed to be shut down by now? 8)=tom
Same here - I'm not complaining as sales continure to be steady.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: michaeldb on September 18, 2009, 15:04
hey....   I'm still getting JIU sales on StockXpert....
 what's the latest?  werent they supposed to be shut down by now? 8)=tom
Same here - I'm not complaining as sales continure to be steady.
Same here (knock wood). I hope that Getty is abandoning their plan to replace StockXpert images with IS ones on JIU. IS has been rejecting a higher percentage of my simpler 'clip art' vectors, and I am convinced that this is their policy. They want only more complex vectors, no matter the commercial value or lack thereof. My simple vectors far outsell my complex ones, and clip art sells great on JIU. Even if my IS images sell well on JIU, I will still lose most of my revenue there because IS rejects my best images.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: goldenangel on September 18, 2009, 18:50
I was wondering the same. Let's hope they continue their business. StockXpert/JIU/Photos earnings are still steady.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: lisafx on September 19, 2009, 08:47
Perhaps they couldn't get enough images opted in through istock? 

I had guessed the same thing. I really hope they have reconsidered and decided to leave well-enough alone.   If so, I doubt there will be any big announcement of a policy reversal.   

Sales at Photos and JIU are good, and I will happily leave my images there for the .30 I am getting, but won't be chasing after that .25 through Istock.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: gostwyck on September 19, 2009, 09:10
IS reported a figure of 900K images 'donated' but I'd imagine that's unlikely to impress JIU/PC customers who could lose over 3M from the existing collection. Like Lisa, there's no way out of principle that I'd be signing up for JUI/PC subscriptions via IS.

My sales have rising steadily for the last 4 months at StockXpert, almost back to their peak, so I too hope that they just leave it well alone. Talk of the 'partnership' has gone very quiet at IS so maybe they have finally seen sense at Getty and, having already postponed it for 3 months, will eventually drop it completely. The CV issue alone would be difficult to overcome.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: KB on September 19, 2009, 09:43
Talk of the 'partnership' has gone very quiet at IS so maybe they have finally seen sense at Getty and, having already postponed it for 3 months, will eventually drop it completely. The CV issue alone would be difficult to overcome.
I assume they postponed it due to technical difficulties (perhaps with the CV, that would make sense). I doubt (but very much hope) that they will abandon the idea. (The official reason given was "coordination between all the different sites, cities, and offices involved". Interpret that as you will.)

The timeframe given was "fall", which could be as late as December and still be on time.  ;D
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Dreamframer on September 19, 2009, 10:38
StockXpert is generating the same amount of money for me. It would be a real shame if they close it.
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: lisafx on September 19, 2009, 15:03
Maybe if we are all very quiet the whole issue will fade away....

Ssssshhhhhhh..... ;)
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Suljo on September 19, 2009, 21:50
I look at my iStok port an see that in last month of 40 uploaded images only 2 of them has DL from iStock site, others not one at all but amount 100 view ratio. From my POW I don change anything about "needed quality" even I realize that I have better acceptance ratio this month or two but rare sales of new images.
I am so suspicious that they somehow in search engine put all non exclusives back to have no sales or under 4 dls and after eg 18 or some months that images will be on available on JU or Photos.konj
I think that they want to kick out from they site all nonexclusives in 2 years period.
Even with that kind of dirty game they cant feed YU and PHO... so I think that we will "enjoy" much more months on XP with exsisting YU and PHO sales...
Title: Re: Are you still uploading there??
Post by: Clivia on September 20, 2009, 02:42

SHHHHHHH!!!!!!


hey....   I'm still getting JIU sales on StockXpert....
 what's the latest?  werent they supposed to be shut down by now? 8)=tom