Woo-Nay

[luissantos84]

I am not into weed, ok not anymore 

here in Russian is usual to smoke!

[Jo Ann Snover]

...We are in the PP, but no bestsellers nor vetta go there.
I still don't see whats wrong with it. what the difference between the PP and Shutterstock ?

There are plenty of old threads for you to read if you want to delve into the details of the arguments against the partner program. IMO you're helping Getty nail the lid of your coffin as an exclusive by sending any work over there. It helps Getty to pull more and more work - Vetta/Agency to Getty Images and everything else to the PP - to sites that pay you 20% and no RCs to build your royalties on iStock the following year. It's a tool in the march to giving everyone a max of 20% and the bribe is some money now to make you willing to do it.

I don't participate in the PP now as an independent because they pay so poorly. Why should I assist Getty in taking business from SS which pays me a better rate?

[luissantos84]

that�s all right jsnover and I agree but the real thing is that when you are building some income to get to decent amounts we do need to have a few agencies and such.. and why I say that?

IS is paying me 15% (close to 1500 RC�s) but still will be at 16%
FT I am getting less than I used to have when I started 2 years ago, which means 23% until Silver (which isn�t that close and even there will be 25%)
DT keep having a lot of subs..
123RF seem to be the only one is holding up and become a great agency..

what shall I do? leave all agencies and stay only at SS? leave PP? why? when it gives me like 50% of IS earnings.. and more than CanStockPhoto, BigStock, GLO, VEER, SF, DP

not really easy to step aside.. I do believe when I get to higher earnings I can make some decisions, until there I cannot..

[Mantis]

Why should I assist Getty in taking business from Shutterstock which pays me a better rate?

Because Getty will always have customers no matter how well Shutterstock does.  And because of the critical mass concept there will always be enough contributors at Getty to support their collection. So why not have your images there? I know the idealogs will tell contributors not to sell their stuff there because it is a disservice to the whole industry but, like I said, that critical mass momentum will simply crush that ideology.  It can't be stopped or greatly influenced by a few pulling out.  You will never convince everyone to pull out.  Human nature (money) dictates that.  So knowing that one can make $50 or $100 or $200 a month extra in a system where ideology will never mean squat is incentive enough in my opinion.

[Risamay]

Also note that the new summer "Woo-Yay" thread has a total of zero posts so far.

Seems the community there is * near dead. Glad for the friendship I made and where they are flourishing, elsewhere.

[caspixel]

Also note that the new summer "Woo-Yay" thread has a total of zero posts so far.

Seems the community there is  near dead. Glad for the friendship I made and where they are flourishing, elsewhere.

There are now two posts, one of which is this: It's winter over here!!

[Mantis]

I have simply stopped posting over there.  Between the three Musketeers you can't say anything other than show your your appreciating for the way they've screwed you.

[caspixel]

That is what happens when you take all the fun out of something. Like Risamay, I made some great friendships on those forums. So glad I was able to continue them elsewhere, especially considering how many have been banned.

[Mantis]

Hitler like behavior over there makes it un-fun to even post anything for fear of retribution.

[Larry]

The forums are not useful anymore.

[Graffoto]

Lobo has killed off the forums. For no reason, really:  he is not acting responsibly when you consider the contributors he locks out are paying his salary.  There is really no reason for him to have a job at iStockphoto.  It's a giant slam to the people who carry the weight. Occasionally, a thread needs to be stopped, but he abuses the job in a really serious way. Inexcusable. The management is looking really bad to leave him at that post. He needs to go get a job at Burger King.

Is he possibly quenching any and all discordant viewpoints at the request of management ie Getty?
I for one suspect that he is. I have worked  for almost 30 years at a company that religiously makes everyone toe the company line.
Contrary viewpoints are only verbalized in the most hushed tones possible. "The walls have ears" is an often heard phrase.