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« on: September 26, 2013, 02:16 »
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DREAMSTIME Earnings rating  15,5
Top Tier, ha ha

Not for me and my stock friends.
Since June are DLs dooown.
 :(
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 05:25 by enstoker »


« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 02:37 »
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May, June totally down. Since July average again, but never Top Tier for me.

« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 07:01 »
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Dreamstime has plummeted for me lately - they were top 4 for me the downward spiral seems to have started in May lets hope their customers have long summer holidays  8)

cuppacoffee

« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 07:08 »
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This was just stated in the forums by Achilles in reply to a poster who was complaining that he/she didn't like their upload system because he/she couldn't upload and watch movies on his computer at the same time. He was so upset he said he wasn't going to upload to them first. http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_35454

"Nevertheless, Dreamstime has the second largest user database in the world."

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 07:13 »
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Dreamstime is, and has always been, the 4th for me.
But the gap between the first (Shutterstock) and the following is greater each month.

« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 07:22 »
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Dreamstime is, and has always been, the 4th for me.
But the gap between the first (Shutterstock) and the following is greater each month.

Same here.  It has gone down 20% for me but Deposit Photos is catching up.  I am on track to make over $100 at DP again this month. I don't know what's going on at DT, I have never had increased commissions sine getting 1,000 image son line, now I have almost 3000.  Sales are always in a small range.  Some, however, do better and grow with their uploads.  Probably a specific look for a more tailored buyer base perhaps.

« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 08:13 »
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15.5 means that the average contributor here that contributes to Dreamstime is making less than $80 per month.  It may be 'top tier' but $80 per month is nowhere near top tier in my book.

« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 08:15 »
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Solidly in the top three for me (I don't do Fotolia).

« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 08:26 »
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15.5 means that the average contributor here that contributes to Dreamstime is making less than $80 per month.  It may be 'top tier' but $80 per month is nowhere near top tier in my book.

You really can't draw any money conclusions about the poll on the right.  Yes people vote gauged by their earnings but the top level isn't high enough for the big earners and the accuracy isn't enough to make such specific conclusions.  The poll is simply meant to arrange the stock sites in the correct order and give an idea of how far apart their earnings are.  Putting a dollar amount on the numbers is reading too much into the results.

Additionally, even if it was $80, a poll of everyone including people just starting out is nowhere near anybody's book.. it is an average, simple as that.

« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 08:38 »
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My point was more that an average of $80 per month doesn't seem like top tier.  It's just the top 4 sites in the 'top tier', they aren't necessarily top tier sites.  One of the top four and top tier seem to me to be different things.

« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 09:05 »
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DT has been neck and neck with SS the last 2 months for me. They haven't really been growing though. SS has just been shrinking. I guess that is what happens when you don't upload for 3 years.

« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 10:07 »
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Dreamstime is, and has always been, the 4th for me.
But the gap between the first (Shutterstock) and the following is greater each month.

Me too  :)

« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 10:36 »
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My point was more that an average of $80 per month doesn't seem like top tier.  It's just the top 4 sites in the 'top tier', they aren't necessarily top tier sites.  One of the top four and top tier seem to me to be different things.

What an utterly ridiculous and contradictory statement! As usual Tickstock is trying to talk authoritively about a subject that he/she has absolutely no knowledge or experience of. What a waste of forum space.

DT are most definitely a 'top tier' site as far as I'm concerned. Solid and reliable earnings and only marginally behind  IS and FT for me this month. Not only that but the RPD at DT (at $2.13 averaged over the last 13 months for me) is more than double that of the other 'top tier' sites. Also, with regard to 'contributor relations', DT are second only to SS and absolutely miles ahead of IS and FT. I very much like DT and also the people who run it.

« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 10:42 »
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My point was more that an average of $80 per month doesn't seem like top tier.  It's just the top 4 sites in the 'top tier', they aren't necessarily top tier sites.  One of the top four and top tier seem to me to be different things.

What an utterly ridiculous and contradictory statement! As usual Tickstock is trying to talk authoritively about a subject that he/she has absolutely no knowledge or experience of. What a waste of forum space.

DT are most definitely a 'top tier' site as far as I'm concerned. Solid and reliable earnings and only marginally behind  IS and FT for me this month. Not only that but the RPD at DT (at $2.13 averaged over the last 13 months for me) is more than double that of the other 'top tier' sites. Also, with regard to 'contributor relations', DT are second only to SS and absolutely miles ahead of IS and FT. I very much like DT and also the people who run it.
Top tier to me would be measured by meeting an actual number, for instance a site that averaged over $300/month.  Just being in the top four doesn't say anything at all about the site.  It could be that all the other sites are just really terrible so an ok or slightly less terrible site ends up in the 4th position.  Just saying that no matter what there has to be four top tier sites seems a little arbitrary doesn't it?

I've got to add in that I'm not talking authoritatively at all, I'm expressing my opinion "seems to me" and what does it even mean to say I have no experience of this subject?  I think I have just as much experience with top and middle tiers as the next guy.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 10:54 by tickstock »

« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2013, 10:45 »
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My point was more that an average of $80 per month doesn't seem like top tier.  It's just the top 4 sites in the 'top tier', they aren't necessarily top tier sites.  One of the top four and top tier seem to me to be different things.

What an utterly ridiculous and contradictory statement! As usual Tickstock is trying to talk authoritively about a subject that he/she has absolutely no knowledge or experience of. What a waste of forum space.

DT are most definitely a 'top tier' site as far as I'm concerned. Solid and reliable earnings and only marginally behind  IS and FT for me this month. Not only that but the RPD at DT (at $2.13 averaged over the last 13 months for me) is more than double that of the other 'top tier' sites. Also, with regard to 'contributor relations', DT are second only to SS and absolutely miles ahead of IS and FT. I very much like DT and also the people who run it.

interesting, just noticed you started uploading there after over 2 years

Tror

« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2013, 10:59 »
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My personal earnings ranking:

1. Shutterstock
2. istock
3. Fotolia
4. Alamy
5. Photodune
6. Depositphotos
7. Dreamstime
8. Canstock
.
.
.

« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2013, 11:00 »
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My personal earnings ranking:

1. Shutterstock
2. istock
3. Fotolia
4. Alamy
5. Photodune
6. Depositphotos
7. Dreamstime
8. Canstock
.
.
.

10th (last month)

« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2013, 11:02 »
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Top tier to me would be measured by meeting an actual number, for instance a site that averaged over $300/month.

Whose numbers are we going by? Making over $300 at DT a month doesn't sound unreasonable to me, but somebody else might struggle to make that. Then, there are probably people that make multiple times more than that.

« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2013, 11:05 »
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I was just saying as an average, this is the 'professional microstock forum' so I wouldn't think that would be too high.  I'm thinking to be a professional microstocker you need to be making around $40,000 US (maybe less maybe more) a year which I think roughly translates to $300 for Dreamstime.  I was just throwing numbers out there, the point was that just being the 4th best doesn't make something top tier.  Shutterstock is in a different league than Dreamstime for most contributors.

Ron

« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2013, 11:34 »
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I was just saying as an average, this is the 'professional microstock forum' so I wouldn't think that would be too high.  I'm thinking to be a professional microstocker you need to be making around $40,000 US (maybe less maybe more) a year which I think roughly translates to $300 for Dreamstime.  I was just throwing numbers out there, the point was that just being the 4th best doesn't make something top tier.  Shutterstock is in a different league than Dreamstime for most contributors.
You got that all wrong, this is the amateur forum according to someone who is no longer amongst us. He/she said so this morning on another agency forum. I wont say his/her name or I will receive PMs again with some threats towards me.

« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 11:36 »
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40k is an average weekend for me, please! ;D

« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 11:43 »
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40k is an average weekend for me, please! ;D

Can you adopt me?  ;D

« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 11:59 »
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40k is an average weekend for me, please! ;D

do you need to pay 100 people? ;D

« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 12:45 »
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just me 8)

« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 13:58 »
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Honestly speaking I like DT because of their Credit Sales. But what ever I do it's not give me a reasonable grow at all. Here is my stats:

           Online  Refused  Acceptance ratio:        Sales    Revenue     RPD
Sep 12    1        5             16.70%                    21      $29.64       $1.41
Oct 12    1         3             25.00%                    23      $21.89       $0.95
Nov 12    6        7             46.20%                    18      $25.42       $1.41
Dec 12    1        1             50.00%                    17       $21.77      $1.28
Jan 13     7        0            100.00%                   24       $37.33     $1.56
Feb 13    5         3            62.50%                     26       $26.22     $1.01
Mar 13    1        31           3.10%                      18       $21.26      $1.18
Apr 13    5         2            71.40%                     27      $44.16      $1.64
May 13   1         0            100.00%                   26       $44.50      $1.71
Jun 13    15       1            93.80%                     15       $39.53      $2.64
Jul 13     48       3            94.10%                     26       $37.80      $1.45
Aug 13   32      17            65.30%                    26       $46.22      $1.78
Sep 13   52       8             86.70%                    23       $27.08      $1.18

P.S. But what's interesting I got almost the same money this September 2013 and the September 2012. But I almost doubled my port since than. And the closer I'm to the ~95-98$ to paid out the longer it takes to get to 100$. 
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 14:18 by mayaartist »


 

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