PP Sales for Jun 2014 have started

[pixsol]

I see one for 30-Jun

[Mantis]

Nothing for me yet.

[PixelBytes]

None here.  This is earlier than normal.  Would be nice to see them come in early this month tho. 

[ultimagina]

I see only one sale on the 23rd, weird way to start


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[Goofy]

I see only one sale on the 23rd, weird way to start


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everything iStock does is weird...

[pixsol]

I see one for 30-Jun

Nothing else other than the 30-Jun. It appears on the 'Stats' page barchart as PP, but I am not able to find the corresponding sale on the 'Partner Program' page for a specific image. Also, in the 'Financials' page the total is updated for 'Account Balance' but not 'Total Earnings'. I am not sure exactly what is happening. Let me give it a few days

[pixsol]

I see one for 30-Jun

Nothing else other than the 30-Jun. It appears on the 'Stats' page barchart as PP, but I am not able to find the corresponding sale on the 'Partner Program' page for a specific image. Also, in the 'Financials' page the total is updated for 'Account Balance' but not 'Total Earnings'. I am not sure exactly what is happening. Let me give it a few days

In the PP thread for Jun-2014 over at iS, it is being said that these are PP sales for Editorial images. I discovered for the 1st time today that the 'Partner Program' page does NOT list the editorial images ! So, I had to switch to 'Details' and clicked on the 'Editorial image' icon to bring the editorial images to the top of the page. Since I use script by 'theasis' on 'my uploads' (for Google Chrome), I clicked on the down arrow next to the column 'Royalties' and could find the $0.28 PP sale. Of course it is the total sales, and there is no way to know which of the editorial images have sold on which date under PP.

If anyone knows the trick/tip to find out the PP sale details of editorial images (using the 'theasis' script or any other way), please let us know. It will be very helpful.

[Nikovsk]

Got my first PP on the 1st.

[Goofy]

same here- nice to see it starting on time and from the 1st of the month instead of going backwards like last month- now this is weird- they are doing things right for a change 

[Henvry]

I got hardly any income from PP this month.

[PixelBytes]

I got hardly any income from PP this month.

Its not done.

[ShadySue]

I got hardly any income from PP this month.

As mentioned above, these are only editorial PP sales, though I don't know why they are reported separately.

[pixsol]

I am beginning to see standard PP sales (from TS) starting at the beginning of Jun-2014.

[robhainer]

I got some of the beginning of June. I'm new to Istock. Do they do the whole month at once, or do they start trickling in over time?

I'm having the hardest time figure out what's selling where, when and how much. Is there a good place to do that like on Shutterstock and most other sites?

[Beppe Grillo]

I got hardly any income from PP this month.

As mentioned above, these are only editorial PP sales, though I don't know why they are reported separately.

Not sure, I have no editorial in iStock but I have already got pp sale for June.

[heywoody]

no editorial here either so seems the "ordinary" pp has started

[ShadySue]

That's interesting. I read two different admins on two different places say it was PP editorial, but I had no idea how or why they would report them separately, unless some editorial outlet has a 'deal' like Alamy's UK Newspaper deal (pure speculation on my part)

[pixsol]

I got some of the beginning of June. I'm new to Istock. Do they do the whole month at once, or do they start trickling in over time?

I'm having the hardest time figure out what's selling where, when and how much. Is there a good place to do that like on Shutterstock and most other sites?

Rob - They do the whole month (the previous month actually) in one go, but it usually takes about 3 to 4 days.

You may look into this thread for a script that provides you with the PP details. http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=352385&page=1

The basic IS PP functionality will only give you the total PP sales that has occurred for an image so far. The script will give you the individual sale (how much and when) details. You will have to work backward based on the $-amount to see what kind of image pack sale it would have been You need to use this royalty schedule - http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule

[Shelma1]

Results are looking really wacky so far, but I'm withholding comment until all the sales are in.

[robhainer]

I got some of the beginning of June. I'm new to Istock. Do they do the whole month at once, or do they start trickling in over time?

I'm having the hardest time figure out what's selling where, when and how much. Is there a good place to do that like on Shutterstock and most other sites?

Rob - They do the whole month (the previous month actually) in one go, but it usually takes about 3 to 4 days.

You may look into this thread for a script that provides you with the PP details. http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=352385&page=1

The basic IS PP functionality will only give you the total PP sales that has occurred for an image so far. The script will give you the individual sale (how much and when) details. You will have to work backward based on the $-amount to see what kind of image pack sale it would have been You need to use this royalty schedule - http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule

Thanks. That script really helps.

[Goofy]

also the Getty 360 will be included later on after the PP- at least that happen to me last month.

[Karen]

I got some of the beginning of June. I'm new to Istock. Do they do the whole month at once, or do they start trickling in over time?

I'm having the hardest time figure out what's selling where, when and how much. Is there a good place to do that like on Shutterstock and most other sites?

Rob - They do the whole month (the previous month actually) in one go, but it usually takes about 3 to 4 days.

You may look into this thread for a script that provides you with the PP details. http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=352385&page=1
The basic IS PP functionality will only give you the total PP sales that has occurred for an image so far. The script will give you the individual sale (how much and when) details. You will have to work backward based on the $-amount to see what kind of image pack sale it would have been You need to use this royalty schedule - http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule

thanks

[PixelBytes]

My PP sales look normal until the 11th and then drop to just a sliver and that is the way for the rest of the days after the 11th.  Others seeing the same?

[Nikovsk]

Yes PixelBytes, it's not exactly in order day by day.
Let's say it's more or less in order with a fair bit of randomness applied.

[ultimagina]

I see a $26.01 sale from Thinkstock. What type of license is this?

[dpimborough]

Yes PixelBytes, it's not exactly in order day by day.
Let's say it's more or less in order with a fair bit of randomness applied.

Well they tried reporting from the 1st to the end of the month

then from the end of the month to 1st

now it's all over the shop

Keeps it interesting I suppose 

[pixsol]

I see a $26.01 sale from Thinkstock. What type of license is this?

As per the royalty schedule (http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule) it is Thinkstock Extended License Image Pack 10

[PixelBytes]

Yes PixelBytes, it's not exactly in order day by day.
Let's say it's more or less in order with a fair bit of randomness applied.

Thank you.  Mine seem in order but just very low after the 11th.  Hopefully more to come on those low days or it will be a very poor month.

[ultimagina]

I see a $26.01 sale from Thinkstock. What type of license is this?

As per the royalty schedule (http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule) it is Thinkstock Extended License Image Pack 10

Thank you for your time, I didn't see this page before!

[pixsol]

I see a $26.01 sale from Thinkstock. What type of license is this?

As per the royalty schedule (http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule) it is Thinkstock Extended License Image Pack 10

Thank you for your time, I didn't see this page before!

No problem ! Now I know that one can even get ELs also in TS

[Nikovsk]

I think it's around the 17th of the month by now.
Looking good so far, already better than SS for the whole month.

[Maximilian]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

[Mantis]

PP starting to slide for me. I've lost roughly $50 but made $11 on the new pp. I envision that once Istock is comfortable with the new subs they will transition all their remaining ts customers to the is sub program. This simply does not make any sense to me why they need to run disparate sub companies. The only logical conclusion is to integrate.

[ShadySue]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

That's how it's always been. However, if you go to My Uploads, then click Image Subscriptions (NOT 'credit subscriptions') you'll be able to see what files sold when. (You may have to click on Last Sub dl twice or three times to see June's sales.)

[Nikovsk]

I don't see why they would close TS now that's already settled and running just fine. It would only loose customers on the transition. Also as a contributor I prefer 2 websites, two search engines and because IS barely sells anything, it would complicate the situation of new files.

[Mantis]

I don't see why they would close TS now that's already settled and running just fine. It would only loose customers on the transition. Also as a contributor I prefer 2 websites, two search engines and because IS barely sells anything, it would complicate the situation of new files.

From a business perspective it simply doesn't make sense to me unless I am missing the strategic buyer hook that makes it necessary. They have costs associated with running two sites. From a buyer perspective I don't want to have to jump to a different site if I don't like the search functionality of a sister site. They should have one site that kicks ass, aligns with customer needs and expectations and is populated with good product from contributors.

On the flip side I would like to continue receiving royalties from thinkstock and Istock. Selfishly TS provides income I've gotten used to. Now I don't want it to go away. It would be nice to see $150-$200 a month on TS and another similar amount on IS subs, but that's probably asking too much.

Oh well.

[JKB]

PP pretty bad these days for me with numerous days without any downloads at all. I'm surprised how quickly it's gone downhill. Just about covers the last clawback this month.

[Newsfocus1]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

That's how it's always been. However, if you go to My Uploads, then click Image Subscriptions (NOT 'credit subscriptions') you'll be able to see what files sold when. (You may have to click on Last Sub dl twice or three times to see June's sales.)

Have a heart for that one! I didn't know you could do that. Many thanks. Regards, David.

[ShadySue]

I don't see why they would close TS now that's already settled and running just fine. It would only loose customers on the transition. Also as a contributor I prefer 2 websites, two search engines and because IS barely sells anything, it would complicate the situation of new files.

I'm out of TS and would like to be out of subs.
However, I have read that not all files from people who opted in, or are forced in, to TS are transferring over, so just one subs within iStock - much as I hate it - would ease the situation of new files.

[Nikovsk]

I have noticed that as well, Shady Sue. From my sample search I see that some IS files (about half) are not on TS. Wonder what's the criteria for that.

[ShadySue]

I have noticed that as well, Shady Sue. From my sample search I see that some IS files (about half) are not on TS. Wonder what's the criteria for that.

It's probably just the connector not working.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359960&page=1

[cthoman]

Kind of surprised by iStock and Thinkstock in my return to IS. They sell quite a bit. I made twice as much there in June than I did at SS. I guess it may taper off when I'm no longer new, but still surprised. It's strange (kind of scary too) having the thought that IS may be the new subscription leader.

[ShadySue]

Kind of surprised by iStock and Thinkstock in my return to IS. They sell quite a bit. I made twice as much there in June than I did at SS. I guess it may taper off when I'm no longer new, but still surprised. It's strange (kind of scary too) having the thought that IS may be the new subscription leader.

Not at all. If you're effectively new there, you're doing extremely well. Most are finding that new files are doing badly, and as far as anything is selling, it's older work. (That applies to iS itself; not, from what I read, to TS.)

[cthoman]

Kind of surprised by iStock and Thinkstock in my return to IS. They sell quite a bit. I made twice as much there in June than I did at SS. I guess it may taper off when I'm no longer new, but still surprised. It's strange (kind of scary too) having the thought that IS may be the new subscription leader.

Not at all. If you're effectively new there, you're doing extremely well. Most are finding that new files are doing badly, and as far as anything is selling, it's older work. (That applies to iS itself; not, from what I read, to TS.)

Single sales aren't great at IS, but probably near where they were when I left. Which I guess is bad relatively speaking to the "good old days", but it is probably still good compared to other agencies. It's definitely been an eye opening experience returning to some of these places. Don't even get me started on the train wreck of Fotolia.

[Nikovsk]

I have noticed that as well, Shady Sue. From my sample search I see that some IS files (about half) are not on TS. Wonder what's the criteria for that.

It's probably just the connector not working.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359960&page=1

Thanks, sent them a message regarding this... just to think I could be making twice with TS.

[Canonbabe]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

I only see a small grey line in the April bar that says Subscribtion, for may and june I haven't seen any but there comes more money in my account every time I check.

[ShadySue]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

I only see a small grey line in the April bar that says Subscribtion, for may and june I haven't seen any but there comes more money in my account every time I check.

Are you checking also credit subscriptions?
Or else you're getting my sales for today. 

[Canonbabe]

10% increase.
The "new" subscription started yesterday for me. But i see only 1 day in stats"4th".

That's how it's always been. However, if you go to My Uploads, then click Image Subscriptions (NOT 'credit subscriptions') you'll be able to see what files sold when. (You may have to click on Last Sub dl twice or three times to see June's sales.)

I checked the subscribtions and in may and june there were some sales, however: Where is the money? I'm happy I'm not their accountant:)

[Karen]

I don't see why they would close TS now that's already settled and running just fine. It would only loose customers on the transition. Also as a contributor I prefer 2 websites, two search engines and because IS barely sells anything, it would complicate the situation of new files.

From a business perspective it simply doesn't make sense to me unless I am missing the strategic buyer hook that makes it necessary. They have costs associated with running two sites. From a buyer perspective I don't want to have to jump to a different site if I don't like the search functionality of a sister site. They should have one site that kicks ass, aligns with customer needs and expectations and is populated with good product from contributors.

iStock subscription plan (iStock Essentials) is actually cheaper then Thinkstock's subscriptions.
Getty will close Thinkstock and will move all it's clients back to iStock.
They tried to build 3 tiers model with macro=Getty, mid=iStock and cheap subs=Thinkstock but it failed to compete against SS.
Now they are changing it into 2 layers macro=Getty and micro=iStock

[Maximilian]

IS is going better and better. Iam really surprised. 4 months started and each month a little bit better.
In the same time SS failes for me. 10% increase at IS and 10% decrease at SS.
+-0 

[Mantis]

IS is going better and better. Iam really surprised. 4 months started and each month a little bit better.
In the same time SS failes for me. 10% increase at IS and 10% decrease at SS.
+-0 

SS is really weird the last few months. Some weekdays are a few bucks with zero OD and two days later I make $15 in od, 60 sub dis, and score a decent day. And without te special sales and video I would be on the downward slide with SS.

[trofia]

Hi guys,

I am pretty new to iStock and only a bit over 500 images there.

I have a couple of questions:

1) Are all the PP sales for June already in or they should coming in until the end of July?

2) Are all the PP sales 28 cents or they have other formats?

Please let me know,

thanks!

[PixelBytes]

They appear to be done for June.  They add IS subs after PP, and they already added subs.  There are some schemes that pay more than .28, but very few of them.  Most sales seem to be .28.

[trofia]

thanks!

[Jo Ann Snover]

You can see all the details in the Partner Program tab here (ignore everything it says about photos.com as that's been shut down for licensing and now sells prints):

http://www.istockphoto.com/help/sell-stock/rate-schedule

[robhainer]

Why does IS make it so difficult? That's the question I'd like to see answered. Every other site I've seen, even podunk start ups, makes it easy to see your earnings and they report sales the day or even the minute they happen.

[Goofy]

Why does IS make it so difficult? That's the question I'd like to see answered. Every other site I've seen, even podunk start ups, makes it easy to see your earnings and they report sales the day or even the minute they happen.

plus you get to upload a new model release each time you submit a person shot which is a major P.I.T.A.   

[Nikovsk]

I like IS, it's my best earner and all... but * they should come to this century already.
The time I spend uploading there is more than all my other 5 agencies put together.

[Goofy]

the pp isn't done yet? I thought the getty 360 comes next?

[ShadySue]

the pp isn't done yet? I thought the getty 360 comes next?

PP is done.
Image subs are done.
Getty - come it will.

[Goofy]

last month I made more on Getty than the PP side thus keeping my fingers crossed...

[Mantis]

the pp isn't done yet? I thought the getty 360 comes next?

PP is done.
Image subs are done.
Getty - come it will.

Isn't that only if you are lucky enough to get one?

[ShadySue]

the pp isn't done yet? I thought the getty 360 comes next?

PP is done.
Image subs are done.
Getty - come it will.

Isn't that only if you are lucky enough to get one?

It was an adaptation of a song title (aging myself), but Getty - come it will or won't is certainly more accurate.
I have been lucky enough to get some decent value sales - including of files which haven't sold on iS - but I'd rather not have the 'luck' to get the sub-$1 sales. That's just insulting.

[Mantis]

the pp isn't done yet? I thought the getty 360 comes next?

PP is done.
Image subs are done.
Getty - come it will.

Isn't that only if you are lucky enough to get one?

It was an adaptation of a song title (aging myself), but Getty - come it will or won't is certainly more accurate.
I have been lucky enough to get some decent value sales - including of files which haven't sold on iS - but I'd rather not have the 'luck' to get the sub-$1 sales. That's just insulting.

I hear ya on the dollar thingie.

[robhainer]

Why does IS make it so difficult? That's the question I'd like to see answered. Every other site I've seen, even podunk start ups, makes it easy to see your earnings and they report sales the day or even the minute they happen.

plus you get to upload a new model release each time you submit a person shot which is a major P.I.T.A.

Trust me, I know all about that. I wouldn't be uploading now if it weren't for the combination of Easy Release and DeepMeta. If I had to do a new paper release for all of these, I wouldn't be bothering.

[robhainer]

By the way, anyone know how long it takes to get payout after you request it? I ordered mine first thing Monday morning.

[Jo Ann Snover]

By the way, anyone know how long it takes to get payout after you request it? I ordered mine first thing Monday morning.

If you got it done before 9am Calgary time on Monday, you'll get paid next Monday (if you use PayPal). Other payment methods have different days.

If you were later than 9am Calgary time, then it'll be two weeks from Monday

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=350427

[PixelBytes]

By the way, anyone know how long it takes to get payout after you request it? I ordered mine first thing Monday morning.

If you got it done before 9am Calgary time on Monday, you'll get paid next Monday (if you use PayPal). Other payment methods have different days.

If you were later than 9am Calgary time, then it'll be two weeks from Monday

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=350427

If you use Skrill you get it Tues and for Payoneer it's Wed.

[trofia]

last month I made more on Getty than the PP side thus keeping my fingers crossed...

how to see the Getty sales on the iStock website? Are they usually coming in after the 3rd weekend of the month?

[ShadySue]

last month I made more on Getty than the PP side thus keeping my fingers crossed...

how to see the Getty sales on the iStock website? Are they usually coming in after the 3rd weekend of the month?

My Uploads > GI sales in the left hand column. Also GI sales are purple on your charts, though Getty360 sales are mossy-green like PP.
There might be an app or code to work out which sales sold on GI, but if you don't use these, the only way to tell which files sold in a particular month is to keep doing screenshots of your GI sales and comparing them month by month, which is only really viable if your Getty sales are small.
No 'usual' date for coming in, but Subs and PP were early this month, so who knows? No word of June's coming as yet.

[trofia]

thanks again Shady!

last month I made more on Getty than the PP side thus keeping my fingers crossed...

how to see the Getty sales on the iStock website? Are they usually coming in after the 3rd weekend of the month?

My Uploads > GI sales in the left hand column. Also GI sales are purple on your charts, though Getty360 sales are mossy-green like PP.
There might be an app or code to work out which sales sold on GI, but if you don't use these, the only way to tell which files sold in a particular month is to keep doing screenshots of your GI sales and comparing them month by month, which is only really viable if your Getty sales are small.
No 'usual' date for coming in, but Subs and PP were early this month, so who knows? No word of June's coming as yet.

[trofia]

Actually, just checked and it seems I do not have GI sales in my oprions...that's what I get:

Upload
My Uploads
Details
Credit Subscriptions
Image Subscriptions
Extended Licenses
Partner Program
Prints
Designs
Disambiguation

[ShadySue]

Actually, just checked and it seems I do not have GI sales in my oprions...that's what I get:

Upload
My Uploads
Details
Credit Subscriptions
Image Subscriptions
Extended Licenses
Partner Program
Prints
Designs
Disambiguation

I don't know whether that means you are only eligible for Getty360 sales, which don't show in that column, or you haven't had any yet, and that link will appear when you have some to see. Probably the first, if you're indie.

[ShadySue]

Getty sales and Getty360 are coming in now.

[Goofy]

Getty sales and Getty360 are coming in now.

Thanks ShadySue!

[robhainer]

I  thought there would be more sub sales on iStock. Something on par with bigstock. Most the sales I'm getting are partner and credit sales.

[Karen]

Getty sales and Getty360 are coming in now.

What is the difference between Getty and Getty360?

[ArnoldLame]

Getty sales and Getty360 are coming in now.

What is the difference between Getty and Getty360?

Getty sales come from exclusives selling files on gettyimages.com

Getty360 is a whole other thing launched last year. Getty have a small number of clients who apparently wanted access to everything for sale under the Getty umbrella without having to create accounts at all of the separate sites, such as iStock and Thinkstock.

Getty set up the 360 program to allow these special clients to be able to see all of those files in one place, but that place is not visible to anyone except these clients. Contributors cannot access the site. The program includes non exclusive files, which means non exclusives can sort of have Getty sales, but they show up as green bars on the iStock stats charts, even though they seem to get paid as part of GI payout.

[BigBubba]

Last night I got a 56$  from a Getty sale that went to my pp report. My question is this : how much did the buyer pay if my cut is 56$?
And-  under what license is it?

Thanks for your help


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[ShadySue]

The licence is Getty360 and you got 20% (or 15%?) of the sale

[BigBubba]

Thank you.


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[BigBubba]

Wait wait...someone paid 375$  via thinkstock for an "over white" photo???


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[WendyT]

Are the sub sales still reported on one day only?

[ShadySue]

Are the sub sales still reported on one day only?

Yes

[WendyT]

Are the sub sales still reported on one day only?

Yes

Thanks .... but sheesh .... why cant they report like SS does?   

[Goofy]

I hope the getty 360 isn't over?

[ShadySue]

I hope the getty 360 isn't over?

I'm pretty sure it is.

[Goofy]

so first Dreamstime sucked this month and now iStock! This month sucks!