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« on: May 20, 2008, 19:15 »
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Hi Yuri A.,

you probably don't know me ... I've seen hundreds of wonderful pictures from your portfolio over the years. But today is the day when I want to say: I just admire you!

Why? Well, I've just discovered two of your pictures in this week's Top 50 Photos at Shutterstock (see one of them here). Please don't midn me, but these 2 pictures have by far the worst fake mirror effect I've seen in a long time ... I mean some of the people are levitating, floating in space, others are standing there with one foot lifted. I wouldn't have even dared to submit a picture like these (actually I'm also unable to take pictures like these) but however: you made it into the Top 50! Unbelievable. Congratulations, sincerely! :) :)


« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 20:38 »
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When your LARGE, people tend to over look your small mistakes

Cranky MIZ

« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 22:08 »
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Funny... if that was me you would think dumb ass, but when I see it's Yuri, I think "assistant".

michealo

« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 08:19 »
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one might be better served by looking at what he got right ....

« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2008, 08:37 »
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one might be better served by looking at what he got right ....

Absolutely.

« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2008, 08:39 »
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OK someone show me

Cranky MIZ

« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2008, 08:49 »
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Man, that is a poor composite.  Same people repeated, each person with different lighting, and the aforementioned floor issue.

That's the problem with letting the work out of your hands.

« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 08:59 »
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Man, that is a poor composite.  Same people repeated, each person with different lighting, and the aforementioned floor issue.

That's the problem with letting the work out of your hands.

But........it sells :o

« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 09:06 »
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But........it sells :o

And that is what matters in the end, isn't it? SY

« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 09:16 »
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Man, that is a poor composite.  Same people repeated, each person with different lighting, and the aforementioned floor issue.

That's the problem with letting the work out of your hands.

But........it sells :o

Isn't that what people do on SS, though?  They just download whatever catches their eye?

« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2008, 09:33 »
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I just wish I had the models to make a composite like that myself.  I would also settle for 10% of Yuri's income not to mention his girlfriend. (Whew!) Lay off Yuri, he's entitled to an occasional mistake or oversight.  We've all done it.  The only difference between his and mine is the fact that the inspectors catch all of mine.

« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2008, 10:34 »
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wow...I'm speechless... ???

lisafx

« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2008, 11:19 »
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I am sure we all have a few images in our portfolios that aren't representative of our best work.  The difference between my goofs and Yuri's is he makes a fortune off his!   That is something to admire - and maybe envy...?

« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2008, 11:36 »
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He he. Now you mention it the third person from the left appears to exist only above the waist. Either that or he has just the one leg in a very painful position.

And sixth from the left has a hole in his stomach, and seems to be standing next door but one to himself.

« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 11:40 »
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Yuri rocks!

Look in the dictionary under "stockphotography" and youll see him!

Fools...

« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 12:06 »
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Yuri rocks!

Look in the dictionary under "stockphotography" and youll see him!

Fools...

..i think the point being made here is that Yuri didn't make the crazy composite...i don't think ANYBODY here would have done that...
Yuri IS a great photog...one of his assistants is not..
« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 12:08 by anonymous »

RT


« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 12:26 »
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I would also settle for 10% of Yuri's income...

I think you'd be very disappointed.

I'm not normally someone who studies how much other people sell and make, however I was shocked at a post I saw detailing how much he made in one month, I don't know whether it was true or not because for some people he's an icon and as such 'chinese whispers' tend to spread around, but if the statement was true and what he say's regarding the number of people he employs is true then believe me I'm making more money than him.

Remember in business the only figure that counts is 'net'.

As for the photo mentioned in this original thread, yeah it's bad and it makes him look bad, it also highlights the problems with reviewers in microstock, it doesn't really matter whether he did it or one of his assistants it's his name that's at the bottom, he proudly states that no image ever gets uploaded until he's approved it, of course we all know that's marketing talk at least for his sake I hope it is!
As pointed out earlier it actually goes to prove that on SS buyers just download anything, I'd be interested to see if the image has ever been used.

I am sure we all have a few images in our portfolios that aren't representative of our best work.  The difference between my goofs and Yuri's is he makes a fortune off his!   That is something to admire - and maybe envy...?

Absolutely, in fact I have an image in my portfolio that although there's nothing wrong with it technically, I made a major blooper with the concept it was portraying and it wasn't until well after it had been on sale and sold a few times that I noticed, it still sells though !


« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 12:29 by RT »


« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 12:36 »
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I would also settle for 10% of Yuri's income...

I think you'd be very disappointed.

I'm not normally someone who studies how much other people sell and make, however I was shocked at a post I saw detailing how much he made in one month, I don't know whether it was true or not because for some people he's an icon and as such 'chinese whispers' tend to spread around, but if the statement was true and what he say's regarding the number of people he employs is true then believe me I'm making more money than him.

Remember in business the only figure that counts is 'net'.

As for the photo mentioned in this original thread, yeah it's bad and it makes him look bad, it also highlights the problems with reviewers in microstock, it doesn't really matter whether he did it or one of his assistants it's his name that's at the bottom, he proudly states that no image ever gets uploaded until he's approved it, of course we all know that's marketing talk at least for his sake I hope it is!
As pointed out earlier it actually goes to prove that on SS buyers just download anything, I'd be interested to see if the image has ever been used.

I am sure we all have a few images in our portfolios that aren't representative of our best work.  The difference between my goofs and Yuri's is he makes a fortune off his!   That is something to admire - and maybe envy...?

Absolutely, in fact I have an image in my portfolio that although there's nothing wrong with it technically, I made a major blooper with the concept it was portraying and it wasn't until well after it had been on sale and sold a few times that I noticed, it still sells though !


Note about Yuris income. He makes a lot. He spends a lot. He nets decent money. BUT, it he would retire right now, he would still have ~10,000 great images that will make him a LOT of money for next few decades.

So you can think of it like he is an investor. He cashes very few dividends but his worth is large (because his fortune is in his photos).

« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 12:37 »
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I am sure we all have a few images in our portfolios that aren't representative of our best work.  The difference between my goofs and Yuri's is he makes a fortune off his!   That is something to admire - and maybe envy...?

To those who I confused: Lisa's point is exactly my point too. Except for the envy of course ... :)

« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 12:45 »
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Yuri rocks!

Look in the dictionary under "stockphotography" and youll see him!

Fools...

..i think the point being made here is that Yuri didn't make the crazy composite...i don't think ANYBODY here would have done that...
Yuri IS a great photog...one of his assistants is not..

You thought wrong. But who cares. We dont need to complain about others pictures, without them here to explain! Thats for cowards.

« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 13:03 »
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Note about Yuris income. He makes a lot. He spends a lot. He nets decent money. BUT, it he would retire right now, he would still have ~10,000 great images that will make him a LOT of money for next few decades.

So you can think of it like he is an investor. He cashes very few dividends but his worth is large (because his fortune is in his photos).

Decades?!!?

Any lifestyle type shot by any photographer will look dated in a few years! Just look at some of the older macro stuff, less than ten years old and looking old fashioned.

« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 13:15 »
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Yuri rocks!

Look in the dictionary under "stockphotography" and youll see him!

Fools...

..i think the point being made here is that Yuri didn't make the crazy composite...i don't think ANYBODY here would have done that...
Yuri IS a great photog...one of his assistants is not..

You thought wrong. But who cares. We dont need to complain about others pictures, without them here to explain! Thats for cowards.
No, I thought right. But who cares. We dont need to fawn over other photogs without them here to soak it up! Thats for polyannas.

JerryL5

  • Blessed by God's wonderful love.
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2008, 13:43 »
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I don't think it is a mistake. The relfections all match perfectly,
and I suspect floating is what he was going for.

« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 14:06 »
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... floating is what he was going for.

And earth is a disc. :D

graficallyminded

« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 18:06 »
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Come on guys, we all have at least a couple of crappers in our portfolios.  Stuff from early on, or just ones we made when we were having an off day. 

What did a famous gangster rapper once say?
"Don't hate cuz ya can't relate..."

Also, why would Yuri give a crap what people say about him.  He makes more money in a month than most of us make in a year :D LOL 

I reviewed one of his batches today, and I can personally say that it was flawless.  I was careful about reviewing them, too - I don't make exceptions for anyone.  Every image got reviewed just as carefully as the next guy's. 

michealo

« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2008, 03:29 »
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He details his workflow on his website, I adopted some of the simpler things and reduced by rejection rate considerably ..

« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 03:51 »
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He details his workflow on his website, I adopted some of the simpler things and reduced by rejection rate considerably ..

link? please?


michealo

« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 04:00 »
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http://www.arcurs.com/

click on "Yuri Arcurs who"

click on "workflow"

oh and there is this cool website called google that has what is called a search engine, this helps you find things on the internet

« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 06:11 »
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oh and there is this cool website called google that has what is called a search engine, this helps you find things on the internet

Google could really be of help if I would remember that his last name is acurus :)

anyway, thanks for the link!

michealo

« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2008, 07:24 »
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sorry

« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2008, 13:14 »
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Google could really be of help if I would remember that his last name is acurus :)

anyway, thanks for the link!
Geez, entering "yuri stock photography" on any search engine will get you there.

Yuri_Arcurs

  • One Crazy PhotoManic MadPerson
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2008, 14:52 »
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I got to just laugh when I read this. There are many people here (and very successful ones) that have thousand of files much worse then this in their portfolio. This thing has been pushed so much out of proportion because of two files that have a reflection below them that to some people here think look fake, but nevertheless sell like crazy.

Please forgive my poor assistant that feels so bad about this whole thing and please do her the favor off actually downloading the file and see how precise and detailed she has done the isolation as well as putting the files on top of each other. I can understand why the file got accepted, because technically (besides the reflection) the file is excellent and it is not everybody that know what a correct reflection looks like. My assistant actually thought it was done the right way.

I unfortunately dont have time to micromanage all aspects of my business so things will go online that I have not always checked myself.

Anyway. We will remove the files and replace them with versions that have the reflection fixed. The reflection part is actually very easy to do compared to the time it takes to perfect the other aspect.

To the people posting this thread and the people supporting it. I am not angry at all, but I think there is room for a little more gentlemanship. Microstock is my workplace, and I would hate to see it be a place where we photographers point fingers at each other and try to find mistakes in each others work so we can publicly post this on forums. Constructive criticism is great, but that does not seam to be the motive of this post.

« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2008, 15:28 »
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one might be better served by looking at what he got right ....

A voice of reason....


« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 17:06 »
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Anyway. We will remove the files and replace them with versions that have the reflection fixed.

I really don't see why you should take this one down and fix it....it is selling so why fix it!

« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 17:26 »
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thanks for jumping in here Yuri.  I agree with you that this forum or other forums should not be a place where we can point fingers at each others mistakes.  It serves no one a good purpose and constructive criticism is of course usefull but generally is mentioned to the person and not on a public forum.

I had considered just stopping this thread all together but since the original post seemed to be as much of an awe or astonishment as apposed to critique i decided to leave it.  Also perhaps since you are a 'microstock celebrity' it goes with the territory that you, or at least your images would be talked about. 

Nonetheless if you feel this thread is 'pointing figures' I think we should respect that at have it removed.  I think it is best if we all work together as apposed to 'picking' on each other.

« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2008, 17:32 »
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.....and one more rule:

From now on, no one is allowed to pick on the MIZ anymore.
Just nice things about me are allowed....

Contakt

    This user is banned.
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2008, 17:48 »
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.....and one more rule:

From now on, no one is allowed to pick on the MIZ anymore.
Just nice things about me are allowed....

Ahhhh now Miz, I'm sorry but that's asking just a little too much.


« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2008, 18:46 »
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The reflection part is actually very easy to do compared to the time it takes to perfect the other aspect.

I think your assistant will hate you for this - artificially creating a real looking reflection of a perspective shot is hell of work, mostly in vain. Simply flipping and shearing a picture doesn't do the trick at all. There are always parts in the reflection which are invisible on the original object and vice versa, and that is what you simply can't simulate (and what immediately caught my attention when looking through the SS's TOP 50). :)

Once again: Please don't mind me starting this thread. And also once again: I really mean it when I say I admire you.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 19:05 by lathspell »

« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2008, 21:27 »
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I would also settle for 10% of Yuri's income...

As for the photo mentioned in this original thread, yeah it's bad and it makes him look bad, it also highlights the problems with reviewers in microstock, it doesn't really matter whether he did it or one of his assistants it's his name that's at the bottom,...

As pointed out earlier it actually goes to prove that on SS buyers just download anything, I'd be interested to see if the image has ever been used.



so you're saying that reviewers , and / or buyers don't even look at the composition, just the name YURI ? ??? ??? ???

« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2008, 22:19 »
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Unfortunately not, but that's exactly what you're up against. It's only one or two like schlocke, thesentinull and others that take enormous delight in discovering these sort of threads.

Again, yawn...  Almost, slightly, humorous.

« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2008, 03:19 »
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due to yet another thread being reduced to insult flinging..... locked

where was the insults you say - well, they have been removed. 


 

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