Author Topic: Another BAD Deal from Getty / Istock (Read 25881 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #100 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:32 »

Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 09:20

Quote from: tickstock on July 31, 2013, 09:17
Quote from: ShadySue on July 31, 2013, 03:28
Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 02:32
According to the Lobo its limited use and not complete freedom
That may be what Lobo thinks, but it's not what it says on the page, so not 'honest' or 'truthful', as there are no conditions attached to the 'unlimited', so it's a form of bait-and-switch.
It only says unlimited on the 1and1 website, the same promotion from Istock doesn't say that at all and each image that gets downloaded can only be done after agreeing to the terms. It looks to me like it's 1and1 promoting something that it really can't and the fault is with their promotion.
Absolutely, but why doesnt the Lobo give me that answer instead of being a dickhole?

his job ain't helping contributors or moderating the forums but to upset the most people possible, curious that he believes he is one funny fu-cker bashing contributors

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #101 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:33 »

Forgive me if I'm getting confused, but I see two things going on here:

1. On the German site, you are able to easily browse and insert a 1&1 hosted collection of images to place onto your site.
2. The English pages are a promotion to encourage you to open an account and get 5 free images from the regular iStock collection, like a normal customer.

Am I incorrect?

tickstock · « **Reply #102 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:35 »

ShadySue · « **Reply #103 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:37 »

@ tickstock:
It's relevant on two counts:
If 1&1 are a 'partner' of iStock and are making what Lobo says is a false promise, in their UK site, which is illegal in the UK where adverts must be Legal, decent, honest and truthful; and if as Lobo says, this deal has been going since 2010; wouldn't you think that iS, as their partner, would be asking them to correct their misleading statement?

Can we trust what Lobo says, given evidence over the years of which this is only the most recent example. "They" don't seem to give him accurate information
to pass on, or maybe they deliberately give him misleading information to pass on.

ShadySue · « **Reply #104 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:40 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on July 31, 2013, 09:33

Forgive me if I'm getting confused, but I see two things going on here:

1. On the German site, you are able to easily browse and insert a 1&1 hosted collection of images to place onto your site.
2. The English pages are a promotion to encourage you to open an account and get 5 free images from the regular iStock collection, like a normal customer.

Am I incorrect?

As far as I know you're correct, except that it's a UK site, not an English one.

There also seems to be a confusion as to what contributors get paid for the free giveaways. Some seem to think it's $1 per download, while the ASA says it's 0.

tickstock · « **Reply #105 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:42 »

ShadySue · « **Reply #106 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:47 »

Quote from: tickstock on July 31, 2013, 09:42

Quote from: ShadySue on July 31, 2013, 09:37
@ tickstock:
It's relevant on two counts:
If 1&1 are a 'partner' of iStock and are making what Lobo says is a false promise, in their UK site, which is illegal in the UK where adverts must be Legal, decent, honest and truthful; and if as Lobo says, this deal has been going since 2010; wouldn't you think that iS, as their partner, would be asking them to correct their misleading statement?

Can we trust what Lobo says, given evidence over the years of which this is only the most recent example. "They" don't seem to give him accurate information
to pass on, or maybe they deliberately give him misleading information to pass on.
I missed that part, I just saw your thing about his "word". Maybe no one has brought up the issue with "unlimited" to the right people, I have no idea how that works or maybe Istock told 1and1 but they decided they didn't want to change it? I've said it a bunch of times now but in order to get those images, each time you need to click on agree to the terms, they pop up full screen.

And I've said that that's a bait and switch, which is illegal in the UK, and it's on 1&1's uk site.
Who ever reads the terms? How could it be policed, given that the photos on offer are all high sellers, so it's not as though someone would see it in a magazine and get suspicious.
So in your hypothesis, in 2010 iS and 1&1 got into a partnership. 1&1 chose the 'unlimited' wording, iS asked them to change the wording, 1&1 refused, yet the deal is still in place.
I don't think that's any better than any other scenario, e.g. iStock not actually checking what their 'partners' do.

tickstock · « **Reply #107 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:50 »

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #108 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:56 »

I think we need to get away from the promotion on this site:
http://www.1and1.com/details-istockphoto

They run this kind of thing with other people. It's just an ad for 5 free "images" from a promotional collection of 98 images.

What's more concerning is what is on the German site, and that is what we should figure out. Sorry I posted the English links here - it seems to have messed things up.

gostwyck · « **Reply #109 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:56 »

Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 09:31

the guy is a complete tool.

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THE LOBO: Oh please. If you actually spent more time uploading content and less time finding a reason to point out how I was hurting feelings you might have more than 37 files uploaded since May 2012. If you are here to just opine on the state of the industry without actually participating in it you can expect I will provide feedback reflective of your investment.

We spend a lot of time responding to the folks who only come in here to troll. It's part of the risks in having public forums, but it's not exactly a new environment.

I think Lobo is both correct and positively restrained in his remarks. Why have you come over to MSG to call him a 'tool' when you could have done it on the IS forum or privately via sitemail?

It's a complete mystery to me as to why you 'invest' so much of your time on this and other issues that mostly do not affect you at all.

tickstock · « **Reply #110 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:57 »

Ron · « **Reply #111 on:** July 31, 2013, 09:57 »

Quote from: gostwyck on July 31, 2013, 09:56

Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 09:31
the guy is a complete tool.

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THE LOBO: Oh please. If you actually spent more time uploading content and less time finding a reason to point out how I was hurting feelings you might have more than 37 files uploaded since May 2012. If you are here to just opine on the state of the industry without actually participating in it you can expect I will provide feedback reflective of your investment.

We spend a lot of time responding to the folks who only come in here to troll. It's part of the risks in having public forums, but it's not exactly a new environment.

I think Lobo is both correct and positively restrained in his remarks. Why have you come over to MSG to call him a 'tool' when you could have done it on the IS forum or privately via sitemail?

It's a complete mystery to me as you why you 'invest' so much of your time on this and other issues that mostly do not affect you at all.

Lobo, is that you?

Because no one here wanted to ask IS. And why would I get myself banned from the IS forum? I told him I reported him.

Cheers dude.

ShadySue · « **Reply #112 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:01 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on July 31, 2013, 09:56

What's more concerning is what is on the German site, and that is what we should figure out. Sorry I posted the English links here - it seems to have messed things up.

Sean, I realise you're geographically challenged, but if you don't sort out the difference between England and the UK, I'll be forced to give you a glesga kiss: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glesga_kiss/What%20is%20a%20Glesga%20Kiss.htm

tickstock · « **Reply #113 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:03 »

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #114 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:09 »

Quote from: tickstock on July 31, 2013, 09:57

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on July 31, 2013, 09:56
I think we need to get away from the promotion on this site:
http://www.1and1.com/details-istockphoto

They run this kind of thing with other people. It's just an ad for 5 free "images" from a promotional collection of 98 images.

What's more concerning is what is on the German site, and that is what we should figure out. Sorry I posted the English links here - it seems to have messed things up.

Yep that's true, the promo stuff is different.

http://website.1and1.com/pricing?linkOrigin=&linkId=ct.txt.allinclusive-link#choose It's on the US site as well.

There we go:
"Over 25,000 professional images are available for your website at no extra charge. The keyword search makes it easy for you to quickly find the image you are looking for. If you can't find what you are looking for, you will also have access to more than 5 million agency quality images (at an extra cost). "

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #115 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:10 »

Quote from: tickstock on July 31, 2013, 10:03

Quote from: ShadySue on July 31, 2013, 10:01
Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on July 31, 2013, 09:56
What's more concerning is what is on the German site, and that is what we should figure out. Sorry I posted the English links here - it seems to have messed things up.

Sean, I realise you're geographically challenged, but if you don't sort out the difference between England and the UK, I'll be forced to give you a glesga kiss: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glesga_kiss/What%20is%20a%20Glesga%20Kiss.htm

English language

Yeah, that. Like a Canadian site is "English" as well for purposes of discussion

tickstock · « **Reply #116 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:15 »

Ron · « **Reply #117 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:53 »

Well it was inevitable, but I got banned. LOL. I am sure he banned me for what I said over here, but here he is only the Pieman, over there he has power.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #118 on:** July 31, 2013, 10:59 »

Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 10:53

Well it was inevitable, but I got banned. LOL. I am sure he banned me for what I said over here, but here he is only the Pieman, over there he has power.

you got banned because of that? just unbelievable, what you did wasn't trolling, you entered a well structured topic regarding a serious matter without attacking anybody, you were just asking for an explanation, I believe that Lobo is now setting new goals for iStock because the important ones are impossible to reach, pathetic bully

ShadySue · « **Reply #119 on:** July 31, 2013, 11:30 »

Quote from: Ron on July 31, 2013, 10:53

Well it was inevitable, but I got banned. LOL. I am sure he banned me for what I said over here, but here he is only the Pieman, over there he has power.

He clearly wanted to ban you and was determined to goad you until you reacted. The FIRST thing he said, rather than try to find an accurate answer to your question, was a reference to your port, which was totally irrelevant to the question.
He can't stand people who ask 'awkward' questions.
Anyway, I've got a fair-sized port and average sales, and CR haven't got back to me with an answer.

And what was his stupid comment about, "If you actually spent more time uploading content ..." when almost everyone is finding that it's been pointless uploading for months as your files just go into best match limbo, then disappear forever. Check out even BD and D ports and you'll see the same (where they've been uploading recently). Of course, if he was a contributor or actually read what people said he'd know that was the case, and effectively has been since September.

Ron · « **Reply #120 on:** July 31, 2013, 11:36 »

I dont care, I had only like 5 comments there and wasnt going to add a lot more anyway. The forum is useless with that troll roaming around, Ive never found it a nice warm place to be. Its beyond me me why he still has so many people svcking his @ss.

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