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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 19:45 »
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My download numbers today certainly don't support the notion of any improvement in placement of indie images.  Sales dismal as ever, after having improved slightly last week and early this week.  Now back in the gutter.  

I agree with Borg.  Istock isn't worth bothering with for indies anymore.  

Seriously +1.  Here it is Friday, and I haven't even made it to $1 earned for the week.  WTH?  I used to earn a payout a week.  >:( >:( >:(  Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images, but not so many that I'd go from $100 per week to less than a freakin' dollar.  I'm pi$$ed.

thats incredible.. gotta be something regarding upload too not only best match (buyers bailing also).. never had a week with over 100$ (I am with 70$ this January and 49 sales, my BME is at around 200$ with PP sales).. I have never stopped uploading.. but as a very new corner I still see grow at IS.. the future looking at yourself and other doesnt look promising..


SNP

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 19:52 »
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my sales are half what a normal day would be. maybe a little less than half. the whole week has been up and down.

« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 19:59 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed. 

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o 

You're right.  Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  My drop may have taken just over a year to unfold, but still...$100 to $2 per week?!?  Sales on certain images, that used to have regular sales, coming to a dead halt in August 2010 despite showing up with only 80 other images in the search?!?  And then selling just fine from September 2010 onward on Thinkstock?!? 

Someday this crap is gonna catch up with them.  One of these days, someone is going to uncover the truth about what's happening.  They can't hide all of these glitches forever...there's just too many of them.     

traveler1116

« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 20:05 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed. 

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o 

Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.   
You just said "Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images", that might explain it???

« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 20:14 »
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i think sales for indies come from searches by downloads. Eventually these will dry up as exclusive files gain sales. New files? Not worth putting up. Long term only exclusives.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2012, 20:22 »
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Too many people saying I shouldn't has convinced me that I should.  There must be a lot of Sean Lockes in here.   ;D

I have altered my pattern, however.  I can see that everything I upload goes directly to Thinkstock.  I think I am not the only one.  I can see how the Thinkstock competition affects my Shutterstock sales.  Therefore, I only upload SS rejects to iStock.  Surprisingly, it seems to be working.  My SS rejects are being accepted and are selling at iS and/or TS.

As for Karimala's situation ... it is not comforting but could it possibly be because those images that you haven't deleted are being sold at TS?

ED: I think you only see the TS sales at the end of the month?
 
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 20:24 by WarrenPrice »

« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 20:23 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed.  

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o  

Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  
You just said "Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images", that might explain it???

No.  Deactivating some images doesn't explain a 98% drop in income, especially when the vast majority were non-sellers or only had one download years ago.  And the drop started well before I started deactivating images.  

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 20:40 »
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i think sales for indies come from searches by downloads. Eventually these will dry up as exclusive files gain sales. New files? Not worth putting up. Long term only exclusives.
A lot, but I don't know what average percentage, of sales will be from existing lightboxes, but if things don't change that will eventually dry up too.

Noodles

« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 21:48 »
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I take that back.  Just added yesterday's and today's sales, and woohoo...I'm up to just under $2 for the week.   >:( >:( >:(

You seem to have a nice portfolio, Karimala. That's just crazy to earn only $2 in a week from it. This current best match shift does not seem to have affected my (exclusive) sales yet. Personally, I'd rather it was more fair and balanced across the board. These good and bad spikes can be demoralising for everyone.

lagereek

« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2012, 01:59 »
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Really!  does anybody really care anymore?  this is beginning to sound like a broken record,  over and over again. I have personally taken over 20 buyers away from them, sending high-res files, telling them I can meet their future requirements,  within my fields, that is. Good enough for me. :)
If you have direct contact with buyers, I can't imagine why you'd want to give a percentage of your money to any agency.


Yes, but this is buyers that over the years have contacted me for high-res pics, etc, they are not regulars, if you know what I mean, still, I hear from many of them, now and then. Now weather they still buy from IS or n ot?  I dont know. :)

lagereek

« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2012, 02:04 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed.  

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o  


You're right.  Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  My drop may have taken just over a year to unfold, but still...$100 to $2 per week?!?  Sales on certain images, that used to have regular sales, coming to a dead halt in August 2010 despite showing up with only 80 other images in the search?!?  And then selling just fine from September 2010 onward on Thinkstock?!?  

Someday this crap is gonna catch up with them.  One of these days, someone is going to uncover the truth about what's happening.  They can't hide all of these glitches forever...there's just too many of them.    

I agree 100%,  theres just too much going on here, too much for just being coincidences, etc. There is always something happening, always something negative. Not one single positive thing has come out of this place for the last 2 years. I am seriously beginning to wonder if there is any skullduggery goings on.

« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2012, 10:58 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed.  

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o  

Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  
You just said "Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images", that might explain it???

No.  Deactivating some images doesn't explain a 98% drop in income, especially when the vast majority were non-sellers or only had one download years ago.  And the drop started well before I started deactivating images.  

How many images do you have on iStock from 2011 and 2010?

« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2012, 11:50 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed.  

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o  

Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  
You just said "Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images", that might explain it???

No.  Deactivating some images doesn't explain a 98% drop in income, especially when the vast majority were non-sellers or only had one download years ago.  And the drop started well before I started deactivating images.  

How many images do you have on iStock from 2011 and 2010?

Up until 2 weeks ago, I had 800 images.  A year ago, I had 825.  Now I have 648.  Like I said, most of the deactivated images were non- or low sellers, so deactivation doesn't explain such a drastic drop in income.  There's something else going on, like perhaps unreported sales.  I can't help but think there's sales getting lost in the system and many of us aren't get paid what's owed to us.  It's already a known fact that some of the Thinkstock earnings from September weren't added to PP totals, so it's possible there's many other sales floating around that haven't been reported, too.

« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2012, 11:57 »
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I take that back.  Just added yesterday's and today's sales, and woohoo...I'm up to just under $2 for the week.   >:( >:( >:(

You seem to have a nice portfolio, Karimala. That's just crazy to earn only $2 in a week from it. This current best match shift does not seem to have affected my (exclusive) sales yet. Personally, I'd rather it was more fair and balanced across the board. These good and bad spikes can be demoralising for everyone.

Thanks, Noodles.  Yeh...it's very demoralizing and depressing.  Who would want to add more images to their portfolio, if they only have a chance of selling at Thinkstock?  IS was once a great company and contributors could look forward to earning decent money, but that's just not the case anymore.  The day when I pack my bags and leave is drawing closer everyday.     

« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2012, 15:06 »
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Same here - I was never a big player in this, but 1 DL for less than $2 this week, and 2 last week.  It wasn't even a dwindling off, it just suddenly crashed.  

I'm a mid-tier player...gold canister.  This is absolutely ridiculous.

Wow!  $100/wk to $2!!  That's insane.  No amount of Eb and Flow could ever explain what's going on at Istock.  Unless it's a lava flow on the level of what happened to Pompei.   :o  

Nothing can explain any of these things we've been reporting here.  
You just said "Yeh, sure...I've been deactivating images", that might explain it???

No.  Deactivating some images doesn't explain a 98% drop in income, especially when the vast majority were non-sellers or only had one download years ago.  And the drop started well before I started deactivating images.  

How many images do you have on iStock from 2011 and 2010?

Up until 2 weeks ago, I had 800 images.  A year ago, I had 825.  Now I have 648.  Like I said, most of the deactivated images were non- or low sellers, so deactivation doesn't explain such a drastic drop in income.  There's something else going on, like perhaps unreported sales.  I can't help but think there's sales getting lost in the system and many of us aren't get paid what's owed to us.  It's already a known fact that some of the Thinkstock earnings from September weren't added to PP totals, so it's possible there's many other sales floating around that haven't been reported, too.

I meant how many did you submit to IS last year and the year before.

Micro1

« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2012, 17:06 »
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I take that back.  Just added yesterday's and today's sales, and woohoo...I'm up to just under $2 for the week.   >:( >:( >:(

I know how you feel, my sales have halved since last year at iStockphoto.

« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2012, 19:16 »
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I meant how many did you submit to IS last year and the year before.

Only 22.

« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2012, 21:57 »
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My Jan sales at Istock are about 25% of January last year. Not encouraging

« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2012, 09:33 »
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I take that back.  Just added yesterday's and today's sales, and woohoo...I'm up to just under $2 for the week.   >:( >:( >:(

Look out, Big Stock.  iStock is closing in on you.   ;)


ROFLMAO  ;D ;D

wut

« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2012, 10:34 »
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I'm on a EL rush lately, got 200 cr EL a few days ago and another 125cr today. If it keeps going like that I'm gonna start liking IS again :o ;D

wut

« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2012, 06:05 »
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Any news? Notify me when it'll become sensible again for indies to start uploading again. I just hope that there'll be a reason for someone to send me that notification :D

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2012, 07:34 »
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Any news? Notify me when it'll become sensible again for indies to start uploading again. I just hope that there'll be a reason for someone to send me that notification :D
I'd have thought that an EL rush was a reasonable reason.

wut

« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2012, 08:12 »
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Any news? Notify me when it'll become sensible again for indies to start uploading again. I just hope that there'll be a reason for someone to send me that notification :D
I'd have thought that an EL rush was a reasonable reason.

Yeah and then I probably wouldn't get one for months and feel pretty stupid :)

I guess nothing much has changed, since there were no reports lately. I'll just hold off until those reports start coming in

« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2012, 16:03 »
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Problem is that you need to upload just before Indies reach the top of the search so that you can get through the days of processing/review and then join the changes as the Indies peak.  We have to figure out the cycle of the routine M changes to decide when to submit.

BTW, Yesterday was my first day with no downloads, for a non-holiday Wednesday, in years.  So exclusives with older files were at the bottom apparently.


 

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