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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2008, 18:10 »
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Does IS change the best match several times a year?
Well the best match formula is secret so you can't really say for sure, but there are definitely several threads each year discussing strange changes in the order of searches so the answer is probably yes.


vonkara

« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2008, 18:44 »
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Like yingyang0 say, it change a couple of time a year. But this time, it have changed quite drastically I think.

Last changes was more like quite small changes like what files show in second page using your own port. Now some of my best sellers are behind and all my newer files show in first page. Like a set of 2 umbrella, one taken from 2 angles the other one from 3 angles.

That make 5 images of the first page, being quite the same subject. In normal, only the one with download have been up front. Not the whole set. That make the search less appealing for buyers I think.

Now you can't rely on your best sellers if you didn't upload better ones than your best sellers and that everydays! Take vacation and maybe then you will earn 0.

« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2008, 19:07 »
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I don't know if anyone is happy with the change but I am very disappointed with it I can already see the affect ,I do hope they will change it back how it was before.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2008, 19:09 by stokfoto »

« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2008, 22:16 »
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There is no "best match" in that sense.  If the keywords match the search terms, it comes up.  If the title and description mattered, all you would need to do is modify all your images so all the keywords existed in the description and title.

Try to find a photo of a red lipstick. Unless something has changed, you will find tons of images of women, full body, who happen to be using a red lipstick.  Although red lipstick may be in the keywords, it is unlikely that they appear in title or description (likely to be "smiling blond woman in jeans").  On the other hand, a photo of a red lipstick is likely to be named "red lipstick" and have "red lipstick" on the description, therefore the repetition of the search terms in all those fields is a sign that it is a best match than one with them only in the keywords.

This is, I believe, how DT works. I have even found a search term in the description only (search for Roland Garros).

FT's approach would also help the best match, as the relevant keywords are supposed to be the first ones.  But we know there are many other issues in their search tool.

Regards,
Adelaide

vonkara

« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2008, 14:40 »
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Here's an admin who have responded to the thread about the change on Istock. Like always it's not clear at all what he said but still...

Nope, I cannot add any more comment because I am watching the situation, like any contributor.

I do not know the ''Secret of Best Match'', nor do I feel I should.

What I can do, however, is shout loud enough for the people in the Best Match Bunker to hear us, if need be. 


http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=76456&page=10

« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2008, 15:36 »
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For JJRD (content director on istock) to have made an appearance to calm the masses suggests that the current best match waves are a bit higher than usual. Still, he didn't say much...

« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2008, 15:41 »
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... and he was talking as a contributor, not an admin.

vonkara

« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2008, 13:55 »
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There's now around 60 pages on the "best match have changed" thread on Istock http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=76456&page=1

My sales are clearly down now. Around 60% less than the month before. The search is showing sometimes a series of images from the same photoshoot in the first 5 pages, from the same contributors. There's no "official" answer from Istock. The new best match seem to be a mistake to me, but there is no change in view actually >:(

« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2008, 14:18 »
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last month my sales were down more than 50% ,which I believe was due to the change but this month is going ok so far I hope they will come up with a solution that would please the most of the contributers I say "most" 'cos I know it's impossible to make everyone happy.

« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2008, 15:57 »
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I see a reduction in mine also, but the worst thing is an increase in XS versus other sizes.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2008, 16:06 »
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For me, a little bit slower, on pair with september  for dl's; some or even better percentage of large files and xl than before.

CofkoCof

« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2008, 16:33 »
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I noticed a drop in vector sales. But that happend a bit before the recent best match change when vectors were pushed back. The current best match is strange though. I compared similar images that were submitted on the same day and many times the ones with fewer downloads are infont when searching with best match.


« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2008, 00:28 »
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Some increase in downloads.

« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2008, 01:22 »
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I had 9 dls at IS yesterday.  A year ago my average was about 40 a day and a good day was 60 to 80.  I always used to check my stats constantly at IS now I hardly bother.  They have fallen behind SS, DT and FT and last month StockXpert caught up. I used to really love IS and was seriously thinking about going exclusive but I am so dissapointed. Images that are getting downloaded 100's of times at other sites are almost impossible to find at IS :(

« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2008, 03:05 »
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I'm in a similar situation as Fotografer....before the summer started I averaged around 60 downloads a day....on a good day I would get close to 100.........NOW  I get around 20 to 30 on the average and on the weekends......wow....one of these days it's going to be zero.  IS used to be one of my best money makers...but they are really dropping now.  The site that is getting better and better is Dreamstime....my income has continued to climb there......all the other sites are remaining about the same with the exception of SS which as always....if you don't feed it....it drops slowly over time.  If things keep going as they are......at some point I may say that IS is not worth the frustration that they cause me >:(.......not yet....but some days I sure am tempted.

« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2008, 03:47 »
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Had a BME last month and off to a good start this month. Just glad I've not been effected like some of the other vector artists who have been hit quite badly by the best match changes.

« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2008, 13:45 »
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I'm in a similar situation as Fotografer....before the summer started I averaged around 60 downloads a day...
Ditto.

lisafx

« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2008, 14:35 »
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I had 9 dls at IS yesterday.  A year ago my average was about 40 a day and a good day was 60 to 80.  I always used to check my stats constantly at IS now I hardly bother.  They have fallen behind SS, DT and FT and last month StockXpert caught up. I used to really love IS and was seriously thinking about going exclusive but I am so dissapointed. Images that are getting downloaded 100's of times at other sites are almost impossible to find at IS :(

Agreed. 

I have seen slowdown across several sites this month (not DT or SS) but the effect of images dropping out of sight is almost exclusively istock.  I sell a good mix of new and older images on other sites.  Even those from 2005 and 2006 still sell elsewhere but almost never on istock.

When images have such a short shelf life at IS it is a big disincentive to exclusivity.   

« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2008, 00:41 »
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No downloads in over a week, this is the first time a best match change has effected me. Last month was my second best this year. Looks like I'll have to go take some photos, I haven't uploaded anything in over a year.

« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2008, 00:44 »
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Way down on all sites except Dreamstime and shockingly Crestock.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2008, 04:53 »
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So it seems like most of the comments are about downloads dropping. I wonder if the people with increased downloads aren't posting or IS' sales are down overall from the new best match.

« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2008, 05:30 »
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Sales at IS are down by quite a bit. And the images selling are not the same ones as before the change. SS and DT are up while the rest are down.

« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2008, 06:24 »
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Sales have dropped off about 30% for me since the best match changes.

This is just one reason why I would never consider exclusivity.  You never know when the tide will change.

« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2008, 09:51 »
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I have to say my IS income has dropped off significantly this month and April has been the best month this year and I've been uploading to the limit as well.

« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2008, 10:50 »
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Having read this thread I am glad that it is not only me experiencing a sudden decline at IS. This could be the worst month in the last year for me, and in light of their focus on cracking down on inaccurate keywording which is sometimes just plain ridiculous, I really am disappointed in IS.


 

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