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ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #900 on: February 02, 2013, 19:04 »
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I did a search for my xmas ball on the beach which shows up still in Google images as an iS image, just deactivated. likewise all my deactivated xmas files are still there.

I'm sure that once IS "sells" and image to Google, there's no way the photographer can pull it back through IS.   You'd have to take action against Google.  And good luck with that.
Apparently the files usually come down from Google faster than they went up.
Sorry, can't find the link just now, I'm sure it was in the exclusive forum.


« Reply #901 on: February 02, 2013, 19:11 »
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I did a search for my xmas ball on the beach which shows up still in Google images as an iS image, just deactivated. likewise all my deactivated xmas files are still there.

I'm sure that once IS "sells" and image to Google, there's no way the photographer can pull it back through IS.   You'd have to take action against Google.  And good luck with that.
Apparently the files usually come down from Google faster than they went up.
Sorry, can't find the link just now, I'm sure it was in the exclusive forum.

Really? I thought that for all practical purposes they'd been "sold" to Google.  But I suppose I'm not the only one who's confused about the actual terms of this deal, or how they might be interpreted.

I certainly assumed the images were now on Google's servers.  And that IS wouldn't respond to a contributor's request to remove an image by asking Google (or any other customer) to do the same.

« Last Edit: February 02, 2013, 19:24 by stockastic »

« Reply #902 on: February 02, 2013, 19:19 »
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I just deactivated 41 today, plus 40 or so deactivated over the past couple of weeks.

Poncke

« Reply #903 on: February 02, 2013, 19:23 »
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The stats page disappeared (istockphoto.com/stats). Any chance to check the current situation?
@11:49 GMT - it was 12701130 / 62513.
15:07 GMT:
Total files 12696943
Waiting approval 63614

Total files 12691392
Waiting approval 63951

00:20 GMT 3 feb 2013

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #904 on: February 02, 2013, 19:55 »
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I did a search for my xmas ball on the beach which shows up still in Google images as an iS image, just deactivated. likewise all my deactivated xmas files are still there.

I'm sure that once IS "sells" and image to Google, there's no way the photographer can pull it back through IS.   You'd have to take action against Google.  And good luck with that.
Apparently the files usually come down from Google faster than they went up.
Sorry, can't find the link just now, I'm sure it was in the exclusive forum.

Really? I thought that for all practical purposes they'd been "sold" to Google.  But I suppose I'm not the only one who's confused about the actual terms of this deal, or how they might be interpreted.

I certainly assumed the images were now on Google's servers.  And that IS wouldn't respond to a contributor's request to remove an image by asking Google (or any other customer) to do the same.

I'm totally wrong.  :-[
I misread Google on both the above posts as 'Getty'.  :-[
Sorry, yes you're absolutely right.

« Reply #905 on: February 02, 2013, 20:01 »
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I did a search for my xmas ball on the beach which shows up still in Google images as an iS image, just deactivated. likewise all my deactivated xmas files are still there.

I'm sure that once IS "sells" and image to Google, there's no way the photographer can pull it back through IS.   You'd have to take action against Google.  And good luck with that.
Apparently the files usually come down from Google faster than they went up.
Sorry, can't find the link just now, I'm sure it was in the exclusive forum.

Really? I thought that for all practical purposes they'd been "sold" to Google.  But I suppose I'm not the only one who's confused about the actual terms of this deal, or how they might be interpreted.

I certainly assumed the images were now on Google's servers.  And that IS wouldn't respond to a contributor's request to remove an image by asking Google (or any other customer) to do the same.

The initial comment was about Google Images, not Google Drive.  Google Images is just part of Google's web search.  Those will eventually disappear once the images are removed from the web.  But, it will probably take a few days or more for Google's crawler to update and not show the links to Istock anymore.  However, the images that Google bought for Google Drive are an entirely different matter.  Those have been licensed and likely will remain available no matter what action a contributor takes.

« Reply #906 on: February 02, 2013, 20:02 »
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cypher, ShadySue:  "Never mind."

« Reply #907 on: February 02, 2013, 20:12 »
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I deleted all my 2330 images there a year and a half ago. Does that count?  ;D

gillian

  • *Gillian*

« Reply #908 on: February 02, 2013, 20:26 »
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I did a search for my xmas ball on the beach which shows up still in Google images as an iS image, just deactivated. likewise all my deactivated xmas files are still there.

I'm sure that once IS "sells" and image to Google, there's no way the photographer can pull it back through IS.   You'd have to take action against Google.  And good luck with that.
Apparently the files usually come down from Google faster than they went up.
Sorry, can't find the link just now, I'm sure it was in the exclusive forum.

Really? I thought that for all practical purposes they'd been "sold" to Google.  But I suppose I'm not the only one who's confused about the actual terms of this deal, or how they might be interpreted.

I certainly assumed the images were now on Google's servers.  And that IS wouldn't respond to a contributor's request to remove an image by asking Google (or any other customer) to do the same.

The initial comment was about Google Images, not Google Drive.  Google Images is just part of Google's web search.  Those will eventually disappear once the images are removed from the web.  But, it will probably take a few days or more for Google's crawler to update and not show the links to Istock anymore.  However, the images that Google bought for Google Drive are an entirely different matter.  Those have been licensed and likely will remain available no matter what action a contributor takes.

yes, I was responding to the notion that iS will miss all the links from a google search once we deactivate our work, but if my deactivated file is still sitting there (just non purchasable) then the links also remain valid?

mattdixon

« Reply #909 on: February 04, 2013, 11:52 »
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Had a busy weekend so didn't post, Exclusive contract cancelled.

There were many reasons but the Google Drive deal and the nasty DMCA takedown of the site showing our files in the deal tipped me over the edge.

For me its about gaining control of my IP and having the freedom to support the more ethically minded businesses out there.

Having exclusive content has given Getty way too much power and recent events have shown they are not to be trusted with it at all, so I'm out.

« Reply #910 on: February 04, 2013, 11:54 »
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« Reply #911 on: February 04, 2013, 11:57 »
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Had a busy weekend so didn't post, Exclusive contract cancelled.

There were many reasons but the Google Drive deal and the nasty DMCA takedown of the site showing our files in the deal tipped me over the edge.

For me its about gaining control of my IP and having the freedom to support the more ethically minded businesses out there.

Having exclusive content has given Getty way too much power and recent events have shown they are not to be trusted with it at all, so I'm out.

Well done. Good for you. Look forward to seeing your excellent port elsewhere in 30 days time.

Pinocchio

« Reply #912 on: February 04, 2013, 12:01 »
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For me its about gaining control of my IP and having the freedom to support the more ethically minded businesses out there.

Having exclusive content has given Getty way too much power and recent events have shown they are not to be trusted with it at all, so I'm out.

My sentiments exactly - but I don't have to deal with the same realities as you since I'm independent, and have a tiny portfolio at iStock.

I'm interested in who you consider to be ethical, as I'm looking for a place to submit images..

Regards and Good Luck with your transition, hope it's not too trying for you!

mattdixon

« Reply #913 on: February 04, 2013, 12:05 »
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Who are the more ethically minded businesses out there, if I may ask?  Will you also deactivate your entire portfolio?
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Libraries with a fair royalty rate and opt outs for distribution to partner programs, these are what I consider more ethical, business that respect the IP of the photographer I guess.

I won't be deactivating anything until my income has stabilised as an indy, after that yes I'll be choosing carefully where my work goes.

« Reply #914 on: February 04, 2013, 12:07 »
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Who are the more ethically minded businesses out there, if I may ask? 

You have to ask? Where would you place Istock/Getty in the league table of ethically-minded businesses then? I know where I'd stick them.

« Reply #915 on: February 04, 2013, 12:16 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:31 by tickstock »

mattdixon

« Reply #916 on: February 04, 2013, 12:22 »
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I don't believe these are ethically minded companies, I focus on the amount of money I'm making instead.
That's what I did, and they stiffed all the exclusives with the money we made them. Not always the wisest choice.

« Reply #917 on: February 04, 2013, 12:28 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:31 by tickstock »

mattdixon

« Reply #918 on: February 04, 2013, 13:13 »
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Keep us up to date on what you decide to do, where you are submitting and how it's working out for you.  I know many people will be very interested.

Will do, I'll drop in here and post how it goes over the next 12 months. I know there are a lot of exclusives wondering what to do, I'll try and give helpful advice where I can.

123RF, Dreamstime and Bigstock all have opt outs, I'm pretty sure Pond5 take out all dupes that have migrated from outside if you ask them, so there are more forward thinking companies out there.

PP list with opt info here...

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/a-list-of-partner-programs/

« Reply #919 on: February 04, 2013, 14:41 »
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... so there are more forward thinking companies out there.

That phrase jolted me awake. Time was when nobody was more forward-thinking than iS and everyone else was playing catch-up. How times change!


w7lwi

  • Those that don't stand up to evil enable evil.
« Reply #921 on: February 05, 2013, 13:18 »
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Had a hard time getting past this comment as I was laughing so hard.

 "iStocks forum moderator, a man of great charm and wit  ;)"

I know it was sarcasm, but it just hit me that way.

« Reply #922 on: February 05, 2013, 13:39 »
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I am in the process of removing about 12,000 files from Thinkstock that were there through one of my distributors... I guess we could add that to the count, too:)

« Reply #923 on: February 05, 2013, 14:19 »
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Once I reach the $100 payout, all 255 of my files will be deactivated.

« Reply #924 on: February 05, 2013, 14:24 »
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 crashoran, are you in PP?  Don't forget that they don't report earnings until the following month - and also that photos don't come down automatically (i.e. if you remove from Istock on the 30th, they will still be selling on thinkstock for who knows how long  - then you won't get paid until sometime in the month following when they come down).


 

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