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ShadySue

« Reply #500 on: April 30, 2014, 08:34 »
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I think it's a stretch to say that people were banned for just telling the truth.  Respectful posts by and large don't get people banned even if they are critical.   Also Yuri didn't go exclusive with iStock AFAIK he worked out an agreement with Getty. 

I was banned from the forums for telling the truth, and that was confirmed in an email by the banner. Apparently I didn't shut up fast enough. Enough of us were banned or silenced then that KKT could make his famous, 'it all sort of died down' quote.

Yuri said he went exclusive, and his photos are tagged 'only from iStock' on the site, even those which are freely available elsewhere.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/yuri-arcurs-first-public-statement In his blog post linked to on that OP, he said, "To sum up: In one day, microstock saw a public release confirming that Yuri Arcurs (me) and all our 20 photographers (7 of which are on the top 10 in the world) and our entire peopleimages.com production house, would leave and move all images to Istock/Getty. "


« Reply #501 on: April 30, 2014, 08:38 »
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ShadySue

« Reply #502 on: April 30, 2014, 09:01 »
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He said he was moving all his and his factory's images 'off microstock' and onto iStock/Getty", and later in his linked article that he had "... have removed our entire collection of images from microstock and subscription sites".

Which wasn't and isn't true, as his deal with iS/Getty didn't proclude his images being on TS, under his own name, e.g. http://www.thinkstockphotos.co.uk/image/stock-photo-young-executive-standing-with-team-mates/121198295/popup?sq=business/f=CPIHVX/s=DynamicRank

When questioned about PeopleImages, on msg, he said that it was a Getty Partner, so clearly that's a deal of some sort, though I can't easily find any reference to Getty on PI.

The other micros that he's on presumably aren't Getty Partners.

He can lie all he likes, the truth is out there for all to see.

What I hate is the 'only from iStock' lie.


« Reply #503 on: April 30, 2014, 09:06 »
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ShadySue

« Reply #504 on: April 30, 2014, 09:14 »
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He said he was moving all his and his factory's images 'off microstock' and onto iStock/Getty", and later in his linked article that he had "... have removed our entire collection of images from microstock and subscription sites".

Which wasn't and isn't true, as his deal with iS/Getty didn't proclude his images being on TS, under his own name, e.g. http://www.thinkstockphotos.co.uk/image/stock-photo-young-executive-standing-with-team-mates/121198295/popup?sq=business/f=CPIHVX/s=DynamicRank

When questioned about PeopleImages, on msg, he said that it was a Getty Partner, so clearly that's a deal of some sort, though I can't easily find any reference to Getty on PI.

The other micros that he's on presumably aren't Getty Partners.

He can lie all he likes, the truth is out there for all to see.

What I hate is the 'only from iStock' lie.

I can see you are angry at Yuri.  That doesn't mean he ever said he was going exclusive at iStock.


I could hardly care less about Yuri. Kudos for his boredom threshhold.

He lied when he wrote: "As of last month, our entire collection of images, now reaching 120000, can only be found on our own site Peopleimages.com, GettyImages.com and Istockphoto.com." in the self-aggrandising article linked by the OP in his msg post.

I care about the 'only from iStock' lie.
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« Reply #505 on: April 30, 2014, 09:15 »
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Ron

« Reply #506 on: April 30, 2014, 09:17 »
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Closed group doesn't necessarily mean that others can't join. I'm in two closed iS Fb groups (no doubt there are plenty more). One I was invited to join, the other I just asked.
AFAICS, in both cases the groups are closed to non-iS contributors.
This forum would be a better place for non-iStockers considering submitting there.

Neither of these groups only says what they want to hear: all shades of opinion are posted.

What I really can't understand is why you didn't know iS deleted posts and banned contributors from their forums, just for telling the truth, before now. It's been going on at least since I started there in late 2006.

I also don't understand how you could have imagined that Yu-know-who was double dipping without iS's knowledge. True, posts about same were promptly removed from iS, but they have been rehearsed here several times since his trumpeting on here of exclusivity (where 'exclusive' seems to mean simply 'not on SS'), and his famous 'professionals deal with professionals' quote.
He was too busy watching Dog the Bounty Hunter

« Reply #507 on: April 30, 2014, 09:23 »
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What's nasty about the "only from iStock" lie is that certain "exclusives" get the additional income from iStock that comes with being "exclusive" while continuing to generate income from those images elsewhere...while the rest of the exclusives are truly exclusive, and only make income from their images on iStock. I'm sure they'd love to continue making their exclusive income there while also being allowed to upload to other sites.

I'd love that deal myself. If I didn't have to be truly exclusive, I'd go "exclusive" on iStock today to get that additional income.

Ron

« Reply #508 on: April 30, 2014, 09:24 »
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Sue, give it up, you can shove it in his face and he will still deny it. Thats what agency employees tend to do these days. More examples over in the DCP thread. .

ShadySue

« Reply #509 on: April 30, 2014, 09:29 »
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He said he was moving all his and his factory's images 'off microstock' and onto iStock/Getty", and later in his linked article that he had "... have removed our entire collection of images from microstock and subscription sites".

Which wasn't and isn't true, as his deal with iS/Getty didn't proclude his images being on TS, under his own name, e.g. http://www.thinkstockphotos.co.uk/image/stock-photo-young-executive-standing-with-team-mates/121198295/popup?sq=business/f=CPIHVX/s=DynamicRank

When questioned about PeopleImages, on msg, he said that it was a Getty Partner, so clearly that's a deal of some sort, though I can't easily find any reference to Getty on PI.

The other micros that he's on presumably aren't Getty Partners.

He can lie all he likes, the truth is out there for all to see.

What I hate is the 'only from iStock' lie.

I can see you are angry at Yuri.  That doesn't mean he ever said he was going exclusive at iStock.


I couldn't care less about Yuri. Kudos for his boredom threshhold.

I care about the 'only from iStock' lie.

Are you talking about what it says on the iStock site?  I don't think Yuri has control over that, do you?


Stop playing your stupid semantic games.

As I said above:
Yuri lied when he said "As of last month, our entire collection of images, now reaching 120000, can only be found on our own site Peopleimages.com, GettyImages.com and Istockphoto.com." and many other lies in his article http://arcurs.com/2013/07/microstock-sees-its-first-major-setback-in-6-years-and-here-is-why.

iStock is lying when they claim to buyers that all of his images are 'only from iStock'.

No matter how much you might like to defend the indefensible, these are the facts.
And with that, I'm out of this discussion, but not necessarily of this thread.

« Reply #510 on: April 30, 2014, 09:35 »
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« Reply #511 on: April 30, 2014, 15:08 »
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Stop playing your stupid semantic games.

As I said above:
Yuri lied when he said "As of last month, our entire collection of images, now reaching 120000, can only be found on our own site Peopleimages.com, GettyImages.com and Istockphoto.com." and many other lies in his article http://arcurs.com/2013/07/microstock-sees-its-first-major-setback-in-6-years-and-here-is-why.

iStock is lying when they claim to buyers that all of his images are 'only from iStock'.

No matter how much you might like to defend the indefensible, these are the facts.
And with that, I'm out of this discussion, but not necessarily of this thread.

I never disagreed with any of that.  What I disagreed with was your statement that "Yuri said he went exclusive".  That's all.

I'll add that with the way you react to disagreement it's hardly surprising that you got banned.


"...can only be found on..." and "...exclusive on..." do not mean the same thing?

Ron

« Reply #512 on: April 30, 2014, 15:14 »
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Stop playing your stupid semantic games.

As I said above:
Yuri lied when he said "As of last month, our entire collection of images, now reaching 120000, can only be found on our own site Peopleimages.com, GettyImages.com and Istockphoto.com." and many other lies in his article http://arcurs.com/2013/07/microstock-sees-its-first-major-setback-in-6-years-and-here-is-why.



iStock is lying when they claim to buyers that all of his images are 'only from iStock'.

No matter how much you might like to defend the indefensible, these are the facts.
And with that, I'm out of this discussion, but not necessarily of this thread.

I never disagreed with any of that.  What I disagreed with was your statement that "Yuri said he went exclusive".  That's all.

I'll add that with the way you react to disagreement it's hardly surprising that you got banned.
You really went back 10 minutes later to add that dig at Sue? And its quite rich coming from you, arguing over semantics when you dam well know that Yuri meant he was going exclusive. Arguing for the sake of arguing.
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« Reply #513 on: April 30, 2014, 15:28 »
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« Reply #514 on: April 30, 2014, 15:36 »
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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/istockphoto-announces-exclusive-deal-with-worlds-top-selling-stock-photographer----and-lowers-pricing-on-half-its-library-215622511.html

" iStockphoto, the web's original resource for royalty-free stock images, media and design elements, today announced its largest exclusive content partnership ever by signing a deal with prolific top-selling stock photographer Yuri Arcurs"
"iStockphoto is now the only site where the Arcurs Collection of photo, video, audio and vector elements can be found. "

« Reply #515 on: April 30, 2014, 15:38 »
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« Reply #516 on: April 30, 2014, 15:39 »
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Tickstock. Somebody is wrong on the Internet and you think it's your job to fix them? Take a break! (Or go fix people somewhere else). We are tired of your tirades.

[Going back to lurk mode.]

« Reply #517 on: April 30, 2014, 15:41 »
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