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« Reply #275 on: January 19, 2013, 19:13 »
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Posted By cobalt:

The microstockgroup has around 31 000 registered users. i would think that anyone serious in this industry will be registered and actively reading there.


Quoted from iS forums in this link http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=350403&page=1.  I love this subtle way of inviting everyone over here!


« Reply #276 on: January 19, 2013, 20:10 »
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I may not deactivate my images, but I'm considering removing my Illustrator Exclusive status.

This gives me the freedom to sell anywhere.


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« Last Edit: January 20, 2013, 03:15 by Jeffrey »

« Reply #277 on: January 19, 2013, 20:17 »
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I may not activate my images, but I'm considering removing my Illustrator Exclusive status.
This gives me the freedom to sell anywhere.

... Until your files are available everywhere for free.

« Reply #278 on: January 19, 2013, 21:36 »
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You can count me in for deactivating 200 on Feb 2nd.

Only got a small port of just over 400, so will delete half initially and if no drastic improvements are made to the IS / Getty / Google mess by the end of Feb, will deactivate the remainder.

Will miss the money, but cant sit there and do nothing, and unless a significant amount of contributors take action, it will only get worse with more images being added to Googledrive.

« Reply #279 on: January 19, 2013, 21:47 »
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... Until your files are available everywhere for free.
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« Reply #280 on: January 19, 2013, 21:51 »
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Will miss the money, but cant sit there and do nothing, and unless a significant amount of contributors take action, it will only get worse with more images being added to Googledrive.

This is the truth. The only way Getty will cease and desist is when they have no images to make use of. The future rolls on for them, no matter whom it rolls over.

lisafx

« Reply #281 on: January 19, 2013, 23:24 »
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Your keeping track of the tally is a huge service to the community Denis.  You're awesome!!  :D

Ok I re-calculated the projected tally for Feb 2nd including numbers from the other tally thread without doubling poster numbers that had already been written in this one. I might figure numbers from the IS forum later on.



Feb 2nd projected total  20,159+

« Reply #282 on: January 20, 2013, 01:19 »
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I may not activate my images, but I'm considering removing my Illustrator Exclusive status.
This gives me the freedom to sell anywhere.

... Until your files are available everywhere for free.
The only way Getty will stop its unethical practices is if contributors 1) Stop contributing and 2) Contributors pull their files.

If you have ANY files sitting at iStock or Getty you are just enabling them to continue their abusive practices and feeding the beast. There are other options out there. Getty should not get away with their greed and evil ways. They've pissed off so many photographers that I think the pendulum has begun to shift against them. But that momentum can ONLY continue if people deactivate their portfolios at all of Getty's sites, including iStock. Because as in any business, money talks. By denying them income through your images, you'll be sending them a clear message that you will no longer accept their abuse.

« Reply #283 on: January 20, 2013, 01:21 »
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Feb 2nd projected total 21,236+

« Reply #284 on: January 20, 2013, 02:42 »
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You can count me in for dropping my Exclusive Crown and for deleting all my people pictures on Istock. That is over 1,000 images from my portfolio. I can't afford to be making $7- $45 a day with them anymore or for them to give away my files that I spent so much money on with wardrobe, props, renting studio space, and paying models.

« Reply #285 on: January 20, 2013, 03:33 »
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You can count me in for dropping my Exclusive Crown and for deleting all my people pictures on Istock. That is over 1,000 images from my portfolio. I can't afford to be making $7- $45 a day with them anymore or for them to give away my files that I spent so much money on with wardrobe, props, renting studio space, and paying models.
Congrats on dropping your crown!  You have a great portfolio with even greater models.  It's Istock's loss.

« Reply #286 on: January 20, 2013, 03:55 »
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Congrats on dropping your crown!  You have a great portfolio with even greater models.  It's Istock's loss.

Thank you for the complement. I have way more stuff that I was working on, Beauty images, Fashion images, and business related subject that I was supposed to upload at Istock but I stopped uploading around October. I was trying to reach 4,000 images by mid December. That never happened when my new images had stopped selling. 
I won't say the work that I'm sitting on is a waste, but it sure is a disappointment. I had quit my side job to do stock full time over the summer and had developed a business plan to have another 4,000 added and double my portfolio by next year.
Like you said a big loss for them along with the many other talented creative artist that will be leaving or dropping their crowns on Feb. 2nd.
Hopefully Sean invites me to join his website when he is finished with his business plan and gets it up and running...lol

« Reply #287 on: January 20, 2013, 05:10 »
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I have a small portfolio on Istock. I unite with the proposed deactivation Feb 2nd, with a percentage of my portfolio. About 150 images. If istock / Getty did not reacting, I will continue.
I'm excited, after four years working on my free time in this world of microstock, that we are able unite for our rights.
It's so pathetic and arrogant what they have done, which did not join the protest, albeit symbolically, not a matter of money, but of dignity.

« Reply #288 on: January 20, 2013, 05:38 »
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I will also deactivate my 375 pics. I never uploaded more, since i just hate the upload system. Just because of the upload, i hope they go down :)

Obviously this whole deal is just crazy. I still don't get why they are taking the risk of killing, microstock & macrostock over this one deal? They are harming themselves, all the other agency's and of course all of us (the photographers). I just don't get their logic  :-\

« Reply #289 on: January 20, 2013, 05:49 »
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I was to fast, missed this thread. I closed my account allready...

« Reply #290 on: January 20, 2013, 05:55 »
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« Reply #291 on: January 20, 2013, 08:43 »
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Feb 2nd projected total 13453+

We really need a million.....it is either the microstock industry dies of a slow and painful death while the RM industry gets wounded further or you cut loose....your choice.

The total might be higher.  We should combine the totals from the Deactivation Tally thread where people have already deactivated with this total. 

Also, I think there are people deactivating or planning to deactivate who aren't posting.  We should all keep an eye on the library total on Feb 2 and 3rd to see how it changes.

I'm not going to commit to deactivating at this point.  I'm waiting until the 2nd to see if anything changes before then.  I'm not holding my breath, though.

lisafx

« Reply #292 on: January 20, 2013, 09:59 »
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The only way Getty will stop its unethical practices is if contributors 1) Stop contributing and 2) Contributors pull their files. 

3) Sue the pants off them.

Don't know why everyone keeps leaving off option #3.  It's the most important option and will be the most effective IMO. 

The folks involved in any hypothetical class action obviously can't post about it here, but lets not forget one is probably in the works. 

lisafx

« Reply #293 on: January 20, 2013, 10:02 »
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I was to fast, missed this thread. I closed my account allready...

How many images?  We can still add them to the total :)

rubyroo

« Reply #294 on: January 20, 2013, 10:02 »
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3) Sue the pants off them.

Hopefully someone out there is unafraid of the size of their pants.

« Reply #295 on: January 20, 2013, 10:05 »
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So the D-Day threats have been answered by Getty with 14 more images added to Google Drive on Thursday?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/google-giving-photos-away-free-for-commercial-use-and-istock-agrees/825/

I suspect that on February 4th (which is a Monday), Getty will respond to the mass deactivation by adding thousands more images to Google.

I do not feel Getty is susceptible to any kind of a message from aligned contributors. What is needed to secure the future viability of fair monetary partnership between contributors and distributors, IMO, is for concerned contributors to walk away completely from any further relationship with Getty, sending a message to the industry that we will not tolerate abuse or disrespect of our Intellectual Property.

We must join together and deactivate our entire accounts with Getty.


lisafx

« Reply #296 on: January 20, 2013, 10:26 »
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I do not feel Getty is susceptible to any kind of a message from aligned contributors. What is needed to secure the future viability of fair monetary partnership between contributors and distributors, IMO, is for concerned contributors to walk away completely from any further relationship with Getty, sending a message to the industry that we will not tolerate abuse or disrespect of our Intellectual Property.

We must join together and deactivate our entire accounts with Getty.

I believe total deactivation by most contributors is inevitable if Getty continues down the road they are on. However I think it's unrealistic to expect that a majority are going to do that all at once on Feb. 2.  For ports with many thousands of images that is going to be logistically difficult. 

Like it or not, this thing is going to play out over months, not days.  Microstockers have always been a diverse bunch, and up to now impossible to get everyone to agree on any action at all.  Each person has a different tolerance for risk and a different set of circumstances to consider. 

I think it is really awesome and amazing that so many people in this diverse group are willing to act together on one day.  It has never happened before in microstock, so it is historic. 

I don't see the "I'm deactivating more than you" debate as constructive.  Any and all images deactivated on, before, or near Feb 2 send a powerful statement to Getty

I prefer to appreciate and praise everyone's individual efforts rather than focusing on who's doing more or less.  Let's choose to see this glass as half full, shall we?  This is the time to come together and any divisiveness just undermines the whole effort.   

« Reply #297 on: January 20, 2013, 10:29 »
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I do not feel Getty is susceptible to any kind of a message from aligned contributors. What is needed to secure the future viability of fair monetary partnership between contributors and distributors, IMO, is for concerned contributors to walk away completely from any further relationship with Getty, sending a message to the industry that we will not tolerate abuse or disrespect of our Intellectual Property.

We must join together and deactivate our entire accounts with Getty.

I believe total deactivation by most contributors is inevitable if Getty continues down the road they are on. However I think it's unrealistic to expect that a majority are going to do that all at once on Feb. 2.  For ports with many thousands of images that is going to be logistically difficult. 

Like it or not, this thing is going to play out over months, not days.  Microstockers have always been a diverse bunch, and up to now impossible to get everyone to agree on any action at all.  Each person has a different tolerance for risk and a different set of circumstances to consider. 

I think it is really awesome and amazing that so many people in this diverse group are willing to act together on one day.  It has never happened before in microstock, so it is historic. 

I don't see the "I'm deactivating more than you" debate as constructive.  Any and all images deactivated on, before, or near Feb 2 send a powerful statement to Getty

I prefer to appreciate and praise everyone's individual efforts rather than focusing on who's doing more or less.  Let's choose to see this glass as half full, shall we?  This is the time to come together and any divisiveness just undermines the whole effort.

Wow! Brilliantly said. I vote Lisa for President (joint President with Sean of course!).

rubyroo

« Reply #298 on: January 20, 2013, 10:30 »
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I'm just going to set up an auto heart-plussing system for your posts today Lisa.  Finding myself agreeing with all of them!

ETA:  Hahaha and Gostwyck posted that while I was writing.  Agreeing with that too.

« Reply #299 on: January 20, 2013, 10:32 »
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I do not feel Getty is susceptible to any kind of a message from aligned contributors. What is needed to secure the future viability of fair monetary partnership between contributors and distributors, IMO, is for concerned contributors to walk away completely from any further relationship with Getty, sending a message to the industry that we will not tolerate abuse or disrespect of our Intellectual Property.

We must join together and deactivate our entire accounts with Getty.

I believe total deactivation by most contributors is inevitable if Getty continues down the road they are on. However I think it's unrealistic to expect that a majority are going to do that all at once on Feb. 2.  For ports with many thousands of images that is going to be logistically difficult. 

Like it or not, this thing is going to play out over months, not days.  Microstockers have always been a diverse bunch, and up to now impossible to get everyone to agree on any action at all.  Each person has a different tolerance for risk and a different set of circumstances to consider. 

I think it is really awesome and amazing that so many people in this diverse group are willing to act together on one day.  It has never happened before in microstock, so it is historic. 

I don't see the "I'm deactivating more than you" debate as constructive.  Any and all images deactivated on, before, or near Feb 2 send a powerful statement to Getty

I prefer to appreciate and praise everyone's individual efforts rather than focusing on who's doing more or less.  Let's choose to see this glass as half full, shall we?  This is the time to come together and any divisiveness just undermines the whole effort.

Well stated, Lisa.  Case in point. While I will deactivate certain images on Feb 2, I am now applying for contributor status on sites I've avoided,  my personal goal is to validate whether I can make back the money I'd lose by deactivating all of my content eventually.  And that will take months before I can make that decision.

PhotoDuneMicrostock Insider

 

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