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« on: January 18, 2017, 11:50 »
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On Feb 1st, all current 2.x versions of DeepMeta will loose the ability to fetch data from the iStock servers and uploads will no longer be possible.

The new DeepMeta v3.0 will be available for download, starting Feb 1st, this version will communicate with new servers hosted by Getty, using a completely new API (interface used by computers to talk to servers).

After installing DeepMeta 3, you can still run the old DeepMeta v2.x version to check the (old) statistics already fetched in DeepMeta. You can also choose to uninstall the old version if you prefer.

DeepMeta 3 will allow you to manage and upload the following types: Images, Illustrations (raster & vector), Video and Editorial Images.
IMPORTANT: Your current data in DeepMeta will not be transferred to DeepMeta 3, which will start up empty! Until Feb 1st, you are advised to limit the number of non-uploaded files in DeepMeta to a minimum!

In the weeks following the launch of Feb 1st, I will be adding an import tool to DeepMeta 3, allowing to import selected data from the old version, including non-uploaded files. Note however, that the new keyword vocabulary will be different, so your term-selections for keywords will not be imported.


« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2017, 20:22 »
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XP not supported just for those handing onto old computers.

http://www.deepmeta.com/Support/Articles/V3/

IMPORTANT: Your current data in DeepMeta will not be transferred to DeepMeta 3, which will start up empty! Until Feb 1st, you are advised to limit the number of non-uploaded files in DeepMeta to a minimum!

At least DM is staying up to date with things. Franky is a good man.

« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 06:51 »
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Wonder if the new version will still require all the annoying keyword subcategory tick boxes. I really hope not.  Sunny - sun, sunlit effect or sonny the entertainer. Incredible time consuming waste of time.

« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 09:44 »
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Can I download metadata from iStock video contributor account with the new Deepmeta on Mac and edit it? I can't find that option. I only see option to upload new photos.

« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 10:09 »
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XP not supported just for those handing onto old computers.

http://www.deepmeta.com/Support/Articles/V3/

IMPORTANT: Your current data in DeepMeta will not be transferred to DeepMeta 3, which will start up empty! Until Feb 1st, you are advised to limit the number of non-uploaded files in DeepMeta to a minimum!

At least DM is staying up to date with things. Franky is a good man.
Deep meta do an amazing job considering what they have to link with!

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 11:01 »
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Wonder if the new version will still require all the annoying keyword subcategory tick boxes. I really hope not.  Sunny - sun, sunlit effect or sonny the entertainer. Incredible time consuming waste of time.
The CV is an amazing saver of time. In Alamy I have to type in all the options, including stemming, manually.  When a CV is working properly it's a far preferable option, ticking boxes being far faster than typing words out in  full.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 11:04 by ShadySue »

« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 11:31 »
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Deep Meta V3 what country is image from. Now what new box will they think of?

« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 12:40 »
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Finally managed to log in and download deepmeta 3.0. I'm watching the tutorial and to be quite honest, I don't like the new version at all. The old one was much more intuitive and easy to use but I guess he had to cripple the program to accommodate ESP. I wonder how much money they wasted on all this? Guess that explains the latest round of paycuts for everyone...

« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 13:23 »
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Wonder if the new version will still require all the annoying keyword subcategory tick boxes. I really hope not.  Sunny - sun, sunlit effect or sonny the entertainer. Incredible time consuming waste of time.
The CV is an amazing saver of time. In Alamy I have to type in all the options, including stemming, manually.  When a CV is working properly it's a far preferable option, ticking boxes being far faster than typing words out in  full.
The trouble with CVs is unless a lot of resource is thrown at them they rapidly become out of date and they have to be managed well....not IS strong suit

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2017, 14:39 »
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Wonder if the new version will still require all the annoying keyword subcategory tick boxes. I really hope not.  Sunny - sun, sunlit effect or sonny the entertainer. Incredible time consuming waste of time.
The CV is an amazing saver of time. In Alamy I have to type in all the options, including stemming, manually.  When a CV is working properly it's a far preferable option, ticking boxes being far faster than typing words out in  full.
The trouble with CVs is unless a lot of resource is thrown at them they rapidly become out of date and they have to be managed well....not IS strong suit
I agree, which is why I qualified if a CV is working properly.
In this case, I don't blame Team Metadata, I think it's more of a tech issue.
Still, it's been a nightmare for at least a full year now. I have words which I  requested last Feb which haven't been added, so the files are totally unfindable under their most likely keyword.
What with that and commissions now 'as low as 28c' (I've already had much lower from Getty sales), it's no wonder I'm not uploading.

« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2017, 14:47 »
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Finally managed to log in and download deepmeta 3.0. I'm watching the tutorial and to be quite honest, I don't like the new version at all. The old one was much more intuitive and easy to use but I guess he had to cripple the program to accommodate ESP. I wonder how much money they wasted on all this? Guess that explains the latest round of paycuts for everyone...

You're probably mostly referring to the way Batches are handled?
I must admit I've been struggling with this. The ESP site is 100% focused around batches: it's your starting and endpoint. This makes sense for ESP, being an upload portal.

With DeepMeta, I don't want to lose the "portfolio management" part. I know there's very little (if any) management left in V3 at this point, but to me, V3 a new starting point, and I'm determined to go beyond what DM 2 could deliver.

This is why I still have flat lists of Files and Releases in there. Contributors will want to see stats and work at the level of their portfolio as such, not necessarily in the context of batches.

I realize I have a long way to go, but I'm not a quitter ;)

All feedback, positive and negative is totally welcome. Don't hold back ;)

« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2017, 14:59 »
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Keyword counting and automatic removal of duplicate keywords would be my first request.

Some explanation of why the CV in the refine section is suddenly much smaller than it was before and less logical for sub-choices.

Both these things make uploading a lot more painful and time consuming than before.

That said, I do appreciate the work you do Franky - keep it up!

« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2017, 16:17 »
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Thanks!
Keyword counting and auto duplicate removal is already in test. Should make it to release soon.

As for the CV. All I can say is that the API switched from using the iStock CV to the Getty CV. We're all learning about the differences now. In any case, I have no choice: only Getty keyword terms are accepted now.

A lot of users do seem to have a non-english language set as their keyword language at the ESP site:
https://esp.gettyimages.com/app/profile

I'm assuming this automatically got defaulted when their ESP account was setup.
Non English as keyword language is currently very funky and almost unusable (I've been informed a fix is being worked on).
Of course this is worsening the perception of the Getty CV for some users...

Feel free to post more bugs, rants and suggestions. I'm monitoring all channels (with FB being the worst to keep track of)
Thanks

« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2017, 18:14 »
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Wish: Maybe it's possible to not have to be forced every time to chose for the country (the Netherlands in my case) but the last country used to keep as the default choice.

« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2017, 19:29 »
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why deepmeta don't use the IPTC data from JPG? I have my vectors with jpg preview and IPTC ready. Now I have to waste a lot of time to add a new keywords?



« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2017, 04:39 »
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Wish: Maybe it's possible to not have to be forced every time to chose for the country (the Netherlands in my case) but the last country used to keep as the default choice.
Yep, totally agree. It's a huge list, and most contributors will often just use one or a few.
Considering a few options on how to best approach this, but it's definitely on the list. Thanks!

« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2017, 04:43 »
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why deepmeta don't use the IPTC data from JPG? I have my vectors with jpg preview and IPTC ready. Now I have to waste a lot of time to add a new keywords?

This should work, actually. You made me doubt, so I just tested it to make sure. Added an EPS and JPG thumbnail, and the IPTC data (title, description and keywords) was correctly extracted from the thumbnail JPG.

If you have an example JPG where this doesn't appear to work for you, please send it to me and I'll do some testing.
I agree IPTC imports make a night-and-day difference.

My email address can be found on the DeepMeta contact page: http://www.deepmeta.com/Contact/Form/
Thanks.

« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2017, 11:25 »
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Is there a list of Getty cv keywords that are only allowed, or do we just guess?

« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2017, 11:34 »
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why deepmeta don't use the IPTC data from JPG? I have my vectors with jpg preview and IPTC ready. Now I have to waste a lot of time to add a new keywords?

This should work, actually. You made me doubt, so I just tested it to make sure. Added an EPS and JPG thumbnail, and the IPTC data (title, description and keywords) was correctly extracted from the thumbnail JPG.

If you have an example JPG where this doesn't appear to work for you, please send it to me and I'll do some testing.
I agree IPTC imports make a night-and-day difference.

My email address can be found on the DeepMeta contact page: http://www.deepmeta.com/Contact/Form/
Thanks.


Effluent (as in sewage) disambiguates to Wealth and Luxury (confused with Affluent) :o

Or is that the way it comes from Getty? Probably right for Getty Effluent=affluent :D

Anyhoo if this is the new standard from Getty it's just really time consuming and makes it even less worth while than the 15% royalty.

Thanks Franky for all your hard work providing for free Deepmeta which Getty should be paying you for all your work!!!
« Last Edit: February 05, 2017, 11:40 by Sammy the Cat »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2017, 11:39 »
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Effluent (as in sewage) disambiguates to Wealth and Luxury (confused with Affluent) :o

Or is that the way it comes from Getty?

LOL!

« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2017, 12:09 »
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I've uploaded v3 and all my files from the old version are gone. Somewhere it says I can continue to run V2 separately but the v3 installation seems to have written over v2, so I can't run the old version.

How can I access all of that previous information?

 >:( >:(

« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2017, 12:19 »
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Wonder if the new version will still require all the annoying keyword subcategory tick boxes. I really hope not.  Sunny - sun, sunlit effect or sonny the entertainer. Incredible time consuming waste of time.
now it is even worst...

« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2017, 13:55 »
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Thanks, I sent you the jpg for test but the mail server said: "the user's maildir has overdrawn his diskspace quota, please try again later."

thanks

Roverto


why deepmeta don't use the IPTC data from JPG? I have my vectors with jpg preview and IPTC ready. Now I have to waste a lot of time to add a new keywords?

This should work, actually. You made me doubt, so I just tested it to make sure. Added an EPS and JPG thumbnail, and the IPTC data (title, description and keywords) was correctly extracted from the thumbnail JPG.

If you have an example JPG where this doesn't appear to work for you, please send it to me and I'll do some testing.
I agree IPTC imports make a night-and-day difference.

My email address can be found on the DeepMeta contact page: http://www.deepmeta.com/Contact/Form/
Thanks.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2017, 14:30 by Roberto »

« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 21:14 »
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Thanks for this Franky.  I am not currently uploading to Istock,  but if I ever start back up, this will be a lot easier than tackling Gettys ESP. 

Can you use it with your iStock login, or do I have to go over and get set up on Getty?

« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2017, 22:29 »
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help, i cant upload in deepmeta v3
"Error: Response status code does not indicate success: 403 (forbidden)"
does anyone have the same experience..?


 

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