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« on: July 05, 2017, 02:11 »
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Hello, this is an old problem and not only of the new deepmeta.

example: I have a picture of a little lake near my city in Italy.
My city is "Bologna", the lake is called "Suviana".
Well, I have this picture of the lake:
http://www.istockphoto.com/it/foto/suviana-lake-autumn-bologna-emilia-romagna-italy-gm623301170-109276975

While this image sells good on SS, FT etc, I never sold one at IS.
When I search for "suviana" on I stock I find other pictures (and not indicative of the only suviana's landmark that is the lake) with no trace of my (imho) indicative picture.
Here the search for Suviana:
http://www.istockphoto.com/it/immagine/suviana?excludenudity=false&page=1&phrase=suviana&sort=best

I find my picture searching for "bologna lake", two keywords that already exist in the IS dictionary and the pic is laying in the middle of many Bologna city images (obviously).
Now the point is: really few ppl will search for Suviana lake by searching "Bologna lake". There are no lakes at all in Bologna so it doesn't make any sense :|

I have many 'niche' places of Italy in my port and In past I wrote many times to IS asking for add keywords. I wrote down to them for every new local word and they always added for me what I asked.
This was a little time consuming but at least I had my pictures correctly indexed.
Some month before the 'revolution' on IS they stopped to answer me (and I am a little upset with the new royalty structure to still investing too much time on IS).

So what I am asking to you is:

-there is a way to add local tags to the images? (without writing to them and waiting everytime their answer before uploading)


PS: inb4 "why people still upload on IS"...I still upload on Istock cause after SS and FT it still (for me) the agency with most sales at all (even with the crappy keywording and the new royalty system)
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 02:15 by philfreez »


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 03:24 »
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Nope, it seems to be a long, convoluted process. You contact the email given in the relevant thread (they've changed the forums, you might need to search. They will then send you a former to fill in the words you want to be added. IF they choose to accept them, you then have to request these words to be made available from your file. At least, when I contacted the email addys, that's what they told me. I haven't followed through because I keep randomly finding previously-findable keywords which are not not findable.
They've heard of suppliers and want no truck with them.

« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 06:44 »
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You mentioned DeepMeta, so I'll explain how to do it there:
1. Type in the name of the lake, "Suviana" as keyword and press enter.
2. You'll get a box allowing you to refine. The only option in the Getty CV is apparently "roviana lagoon". i'll assume it doesn't apply, so you click on the word "Suviana" itself.
3. The term "Suviana" will go to the valid keyword list. It is marked with an asterisk (*) indicating it's not a Getty CV term.

Normally, searching for the word "Suviana" should show up the image.
Note that this only appears to work when you set your keywording language to English (seems to be a limitation of the ESP system).

I've added 3 screenshots of the 3 steps above.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 06:47 by FrankyDM »

« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2017, 08:21 »
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Franky, what to do if (reusing your example) I want to use Suviana and roviana lagoon?

Is there a way to select both (or even more) keywords in on time?

ShadySue

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 15:51 »
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As I read the OP, they already have the files in the system, but they are unfindable. As I understood it, once files were accepted, nothing could be done on my side, including via DM.
I've read that on iS's forum and it was what Support told me. Are you saying that the process you described above can be used after acceptance?
If so, does that apply also to files which were uoaded prior to 'unification'/DM3?

« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 01:29 »
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As I read the OP, they already have the files in the system, but they are unfindable. As I understood it, once files were accepted, nothing could be done on my side, including via DM.
I've read that on iS's forum and it was what Support told me. Are you saying that the process you described above can be used after acceptance?
If so, does that apply also to files which were uoaded prior to 'unification'/DM3?
Sorry, I read the OP as asking advice for new uploads, how to generally handle this situation.
You are right, Sue, that at the moment the only way to change already accepted files is to open a ticket.

« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 01:31 »
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Franky, what to do if (reusing your example) I want to use Suviana and roviana lagoon?

Is there a way to select both (or even more) keywords in on time?
It used to be possible to simply click both, but I was asked to remove that option because it was seen as an invitation to spam keywords.

It's still possible, but now requires more work: enter "Suviana" a second time in the keyword input box, and then select "roviana lagoon".

« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2017, 08:08 »
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3. The term "Suviana" will go to the valid keyword list. It is marked with an asterisk (*) indicating it's not a Getty CV term.

Normally, searching for the word "Suviana" should show up the image.

thanks for this Franky! didn't know that!
for the items I've uploaded in the past months i'm opening tickets asking them to add missing keywords both to the dictionary and to my pictures.
thank you for the support!

« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 12:33 »
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Franky, what to do if (reusing your example) I want to use Suviana and roviana lagoon?

Is there a way to select both (or even more) keywords in on time?
It used to be possible to simply click both, but I was asked to remove that option because it was seen as an invitation to spam keywords.

It's still possible, but now requires more work: enter "Suviana" a second time in the keyword input box, and then select "roviana lagoon".

Thank you Franky. In fact it is what I do, but I have noticed that sometime it does not work.


 

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