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Graffoto

« on: October 31, 2008, 18:17 »

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Starting to feel unloved Undecided

Seriously though, even though I usually have only a download or two every other day or so, this seems an abnormally long time for no DLs at all.

Also, maybe it is just my perception, as I am loath to do any sort of real analitical study, but to me it seems that there are always more downloads in the begining of the week and Thurs/Fri are the worst days.

Anyone actually do a study on this yet?


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traveler1116

« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 21:30 »

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Check out all the threads on the best match (best match), if you aren't exclusive you are nobody.


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Graffoto

« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 21:40 »

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The funny thing is.... I went exclusive a couple of weeks ago Embarrassed


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traveler1116

« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 21:41 »

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Oh that sucks then. I'm sure it will get better for you.


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bittersweet

« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 22:49 »

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Quote from: traveler1116 on October 31, 2008, 21:30

Check out all the threads on the best match (best match), if you aren't exclusive you are nobody.


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Graffoto

« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 09:19 »

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ALL vectors and video with a few tiny exceptions (red flames and up) have been relegated to the very back of the best match search results. This is ALL of them, NOT just non-exclusive. They have also removed the boost for new files. So, if you are fairly new, and especially if you are fairly new and a vector artist, you are temporarily virtually invisible as far as best match results go.

No vectors or video and I have been there for several years now. I do have a smallish portfolio. I uploaded a few shots last week which got a couple of "Whoa. beautiful bride" comments.
But when I actually did a search for the shots using several of the keywords that I knew to be in those photographs, I could not find them AT ALL.
Only 'one' significant keyword pulled them up. But that word is unlikly to be used by the average designer looking for bridal shots.

I guess I just have to wait for the next MB change, eh?


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Peter

« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 10:16 »

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I was wondering what was happening. I used to have stedy sales, but in last 7 days, almost none! 123rf is doing better than IS. I wonder is it worth to upload any more. Non-exlusive.


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sjlocke

« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 10:45 »

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When you only get one download every other day or so, that's pretty close to no downloads at all, so there really isn't any conspiracy. Just the way things move in the great macro world of sales.


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traveler1116

« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 10:56 »

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I've got about 100 ready to upload there, with only 15 slots a week I am just uploading the ones with the least potential now. I'd rather not waste shots that I think are better because they get totally buried, my views on new images is down from averaging 40 to 5 after a week. I may stop uploading there completely until the best match is changed, I keep hearing all the big guys say it changes all the time but I haven't noticed it in my two years until now.


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bittersweet

« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 11:07 »

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Quote from: sjlocke on November 01, 2008, 10:45

When you only get one download every other day or so, that's pretty close to no downloads at all, so there really isn't any conspiracy. Just the way things move in the great macro world of sales.

Hey Sean,
Are videos getting any better placement than when this monster was first unveiled? I'm seeing a smattering of vectors in the results, but they are all red and blue flames, and if what got them those slots doesn't change, it doesn't look like there will be any other vectors showing up before the middle of the pack. I didn't really compare video at first, so I am curious how things are progressing on that front.


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Bateleur

« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 13:47 »

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Quote from: Peter on November 01, 2008, 10:16

I was wondering what was happening. I used to have stedy sales, but in last 7 days, almost none! 123rf is doing better than IS. I wonder is it worth to upload any more. Non-exlusive.

It sounds like ... slowly but surely ... iStock is tightening the screws on non-exclusives.


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sjlocke

« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 14:50 »

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Quote from: whatalife on November 01, 2008, 11:07

Quote from: sjlocke on November 01, 2008, 10:45

When you only get one download every other day or so, that's pretty close to no downloads at all, so there really isn't any conspiracy. Just the way things move in the great macro world of sales.

I don't know - I don't really pay too much attention to where my videos come up in searches, especially a mixed best match sort. I figure someone who's going to pay $100 for a video is smart enough to click off the photo, vector and flash buttons


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le_cyclope

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 16:06 »

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Quote from: sjlocke on November 01, 2008, 10:45

When you only get one download every other day or so, that's pretty close to no downloads at all, so there really isn't any conspiracy. Just the way things move in the great macro world of sales.

I may only have 1 to 5 dl a day but 5 days without any ( which also happened to me last week) is the first time since I joined 2 years ago...

So it must say something, but what?

Claude


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bittersweet

« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 16:17 »

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Quote from: sjlocke on November 01, 2008, 14:50

You are right, of course. Wink

I guess what I really should have asked is whether sales are being affected (as I saw some video people post) as severely as they are for vectors. It doesn't sound like that's the case, so that's a good thing. It's obviously less likely that someone will be searching for video and still at the same time, so the checkboxes probably get used a lot more.


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epantha

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 18:47 »

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Do you guys and gals recommend holding off on uploading new images to IS because of the way things are after this latest best match change? Or should I continue with my weekly upload allotment? Undecided


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traveler1116

« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 19:27 »

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I'm only uploading marginal files now, not the ones I think have the most potential.


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Aetherial

« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2008, 02:44 »

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no sales in five days??....I haven't had a sale there in almost a month...it's my fifth site by earing, behind SS, StockXpert, FT and DT, in that order. this search engine is a killer.


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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2008, 07:58 »

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Quote from: traveler1116 on November 01, 2008, 10:56

Doh! Upload your good stuff - you have more chance of selling it - and therefore more chance of selling more stuff in general.

Move your marginal stuff to trash can on your desktop.


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Graffoto

« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2008, 10:59 »

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Quote from: Aetherial on November 02, 2008, 02:44

no sales in five days??....I haven't had a sale there in almost a month...it's my fifth site by earing, behind SS, StockXpert, FT and DT, in that order. this search engine is a killer.

Atherial, you only have 68 files on IS.
Its little wonder to me that you are getting lost in the best match.
By the way, nice work!

PS- I had a sale this morning, so my dry spell now stands at five days.
Hope it is not another five before the next download!


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2008, 11:13 »

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Quote from: traveler1116 on November 01, 2008, 19:27

I'm only uploading marginal files now, not the ones I think have the most potential.

So lets see if I understand this correctly. Your sales are down which you're not happy about. To fix that you're going to upload your marginal files. Huh

Let us know how that works for you.


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bittersweet

« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2008, 12:06 »

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Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on November 02, 2008, 11:13

Quote from: traveler1116 on November 01, 2008, 19:27

I'm only uploading marginal files now, not the ones I think have the most potential.

So lets see if I understand this correctly. Your sales are down which you're not happy about. To fix that you're going to upload your marginal files. Huh

Let us know how that works for you.

Sounds like a great plan, eh? Cheesy


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epantha

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2008, 13:35 »

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My feeling is that it is best not to focus too negatively on this recent best match change. I will view it as temporary and continue to upload my best work to IS and the other sites. I think things will improve soon.


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traveler1116

« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2008, 15:55 »

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Since the new best match I haven't sold one newly uploaded file, the views have gone from about 40 after the first week down to 5, these files get buried 9 days behind exclusives by age and 50 pages back by the best match. I feel like I need to upload something since we only get a few slots a week but I dont want to waste my best stuff now. I don't expect this to help sales now but if the best match ever changes I will have more good stuff then that will sell, it's my longer term strategy there.


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sjlocke

« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2008, 17:28 »

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Quote from: whatalife on November 02, 2008, 12:06

Sounds like a great plan, eh? Cheesy

I'm all for everyone else uploading their marginal files. Hope they follow through on that one... Wink


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traveler1116

« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2008, 17:49 »

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SJlocke, haven't you been saying the best match will change and does change often? It hasn't really been my experience in the last 2 years but I'll think positive and when it changes I will have all those files that would have been lost to compete on a more level playing field. I think you exclusives are doing pretty well right now regardless of what most of us nonexclusives do, its so tilted now.


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