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Title: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freedom on April 21, 2009, 13:03

My sales have come to a virtual stop under the new best match 2.0, after a healthy March and early April.

Is it best match 2.0 or normal ups and downs?

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: lisafx on April 21, 2009, 13:15

Mine have been down all month so I doubt its related to best match.  Judging from the red all over the charts many people are experiencing the same. 

I still think it is too soon to judge the new best match.  As far as I know it hasn't been mentioned that exclusivity is a factor in the revamp one way or another.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 13:56

Same thing as usual, the buyers need to learn to use it and utilize it to their needs.  They will figure it out and sales will go back to a 'normal' level.  some will gain, others will lose a bit

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: sharply_done on April 21, 2009, 14:14

What lisafx and ichiro17 said.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: travelstock on April 21, 2009, 15:01

Yep its a sea of red in the charts, and my results are reflecting this also. Day 1 was great - but after that its been looking pretty grim.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:20

Quote from: holgs on April 21, 2009, 15:01

Yep its a sea of red in the charts, and my results are reflecting this also. Day 1 was great - but after that its been looking pretty grim.

How many images do you have online? I would like to be able to put a figure to comment above.  Also, how many downloads do you have?

What bothers me the most is someone with 127 images and 42 downloads in an year complain that things are slow.  When were they ever fast? Seriously...

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freedom on April 21, 2009, 15:23

You can be assured that Holgs has far more than 127 images in any sites. Just checked, he has 968 files with IS.

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:20

Quote from: holgs on April 21, 2009, 15:01

Yep its a sea of red in the charts, and my results are reflecting this also. Day 1 was great - but after that its been looking pretty grim.

How many images do you have online? I would like to be able to put a figure to comment above.  Also, how many downloads do you have?

What bothers me the most is someone with 127 images and 42 downloads in an year complain that things are slow.  When were they ever fast? Seriously...

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:25

how about some figures to back it up? how about everyone post some figures if they are going to say things are normal.  Because seriously, I'm sick of guessing if the post is a legitimate one or something from someone who just wants to post

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Danicek on April 21, 2009, 15:32

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:25

how about some figures to back it up? how about everyone post some figures if they are going to say things are normal.  Because seriously, I'm sick of guessing if the post is a legitimate one or something from someone who just wants to post

That's why we have those speedometers below the avatars. Those that want, show them. Then we don't have to do the guessing.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freedom on April 21, 2009, 15:36

It's interesting that you said that, my 15 and 16 were good, 17 was the start of the decline.

Quote from: holgs on April 21, 2009, 15:01

Yep its a sea of red in the charts, and my results are reflecting this also. Day 1 was great - but after that its been looking pretty grim.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Magnum on April 21, 2009, 15:51

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:25

how about some figures to back it up? how about everyone post some figures if they are going to say things are normal.  Because seriously, I'm sick of guessing if the post is a legitimate one or something from someone who just wants to post

Seriously, It´s not all about the Pros here.   What and when am I allowed to post without bothering someone?   All of us started with 1 picture...   

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Phil on April 21, 2009, 16:08

around Nov 20 last year my sales crashed overnight going from around $40-$45 a day (averaged over a month) to around the $25 mark (7 days = about $140 then converted to $au = my rent :( )  (hence I will never go exclusive when that sort of thing happens).  Really a bit too early for me to say properly but since april 15 I seem to still be around $25 mark.

However there is a greater number of my older images / images with less downloads getting sales suddenly and they may or may not rise with the new best match. Personally I wouldn't complain if there is a greater mix of what sells rather than 10% of images making 90% of income. 

Phil

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 16:51

Quote from: Magnum on April 21, 2009, 15:51

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:25

how about some figures to back it up? how about everyone post some figures if they are going to say things are normal.  Because seriously, I'm sick of guessing if the post is a legitimate one or something from someone who just wants to post

Seriously, It´s not all about the Pros here.   What and when am I allowed to post without bothering someone?   All of us started with 1 picture...   

we may all have started with one picture, but when you are still starting and have 40, 60, 100 pics, do you really think that getting one download last week and no downloads this week is a trend?  And what some people may scream about, others will just say its normal

Those little bars are lovely, but don't tell the story.  I'm not the admin, moderator or whatever, but for you to post and have a meaningful post, then say yeah, I'm getting on average 5 more downloads or 3 more dollars per day than pre-best match 2.0

Its not hard.  Back up statements with numbers.  Its expected everywhere else in the world, why not here?

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: cybernesco on April 21, 2009, 17:06

I think I am doing ok. I have 886 images with iStock.  436 downloads in Jan, 427 in Feb, 519 in Mar and 332 so far in april. I am averaging $1.06 per download. To me BM2 does not seem to have an impact either way. It did get a little slower around easter brake but that's all. Denis

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Magnum on April 21, 2009, 17:40

Ichiro@   I guess I have a more laid back attitude than u.   Maybe I get more serious when I get like * downloads/month

* (Whatever dl/month a pro have.)  ;)

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: RT on April 21, 2009, 17:44

I've just had the email for buyers from iStock explaining about BM2, presuming they send it out at the same time to all buyers I'd imagine we'll only now start to see the real effect.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: dbvirago on April 21, 2009, 17:52

I should have the first BME there in a year. Most things selling are the ones that used to sell before they screwed up the search last year.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: cathyslife on April 21, 2009, 17:58

I think it's too early for me to say, because I have been extremely lazy and haven't been shooting or uploading. I always notice a drop when I don't feed the beasts. I can say that I have not noticed any sharp decline. Fingers crossed...

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: vividpixels on April 21, 2009, 19:19

I'm not exclusive and my sales are totally normal so far. I have a baby picture on the first and fourth page when searching for "baby"

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 21:02

Quote from: cybernesco on April 21, 2009, 17:06

I think I am doing ok. I have 886 images with iStock.  436 downloads in Jan, 427 in Feb, 519 in Mar and 332 so far in april. I am averaging $1.06 per download. To me BM2 does not seem to have an impact either way. It did get a little slower around easter brake but that's all. Denis

This is a beautiful response.  I think that this is how it should be posted if you want to post that you are doing well/poorly compared to x weeks/months

Congrats on doing well so far Denis.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Dreamframer on April 22, 2009, 02:36

Doing fine for now. It's still early to judge, and my port is small for some serious statistics, but seems like I'm doing the same, or little better than before.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: cybernesco on April 22, 2009, 05:53

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 21:02

Quote from: cybernesco on April 21, 2009, 17:06

I think I am doing ok. I have 886 images with iStock.  436 downloads in Jan, 427 in Feb, 519 in Mar and 332 so far in april. I am averaging $1.06 per download. To me BM2 does not seem to have an impact either way. It did get a little slower around easter brake but that's all. Denis

This is a beautiful response.  I think that this is how it should be posted if you want to post that you are doing well/poorly compared to x weeks/months

Congrats on doing well so far Denis.

Thank you Ichiro

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: cthoman on April 22, 2009, 12:05

Does it affect us?

If anything, I noticed my images aren't on the last page anymore there on the second to last page now. ;D I'm having a great month, so I can't complain. But, I don't think the new best match has anything to do with it.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freedom on April 22, 2009, 13:34

My sales have somewhat recovered since yesterday.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: goldenangel on April 22, 2009, 14:43

Quote from: Whitechild on April 22, 2009, 02:36

Doing fine for now. It's still early to judge, and my port is small for some serious statistics, but seems like I'm doing the same, or little better than before.

I would say the same for me.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Kngkyle on April 22, 2009, 15:30

So far so good for me. Have seen an improvement.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: travelstock on April 22, 2009, 18:01

Quote from: ichiro17 on April 21, 2009, 15:20

Quote from: holgs on April 21, 2009, 15:01

Yep its a sea of red in the charts, and my results are reflecting this also. Day 1 was great - but after that its been looking pretty grim.

How many images do you have online? I would like to be able to put a figure to comment above.  Also, how many downloads do you have?

What bothers me the most is someone with 127 images and 42 downloads in an year complain that things are slow.  When were they ever fast? Seriously...

As freedom said, I do have more than 127 images online - it shouldn't be too hard to find my profiles on the sites either. The little speed dials are a reasonable indicator.  As it turned out Monday ended up getting better, and today is looking alright. I think in terms of timing its hard to tell what's happening at the moment. The Istock charts are obviously starting to include Easter as a big part of the 30 day average... and yes they are looking pretty red.

I think at the moment a lot of people from the states seem to be taking more holidays coinciding with Easter and some better weather. Hopefully things will get better before the summer slowdown hits ;)

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: epixx on April 22, 2009, 19:48

BME last month, and it looks like another one this month. Guess I'm doing fine then   ;D

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freezingpictures on April 23, 2009, 01:37

Had yesterday the day with most downloads since December. If that trend continues I am happy :)
What I also discovered is that I have a much wider variety of images being downloaded, which I believe is a good thing, even if some bestsellers suffer from it.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Inga on April 23, 2009, 06:39

yes, amazing, 4 downloads over night!? :) If there was more to it than coincidence that would be great :D

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: ScottKrycia on April 23, 2009, 14:51

Hello All!

Feb & March were my best months. April started strong, but has really died. I'm down %26 percent in April, but I still think we need to wait for results. Fingers Crossed!

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Smithore on April 30, 2009, 04:31

The new best match doing very well for me, 50% more downloads and BME for April !!! 8)

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: epantha on April 30, 2009, 07:59

BME by far. 65% change from previous month with 1 large EL.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Gimmerton on April 30, 2009, 08:32

Nothing new under the sun ... Same as previous months :-)

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Microbius on April 30, 2009, 08:33

Getting better than they were under best match 1, but still about $600 down on BME last month.

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: borg on April 30, 2009, 09:02

BME

Getting better!!!

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: sharpshot on April 30, 2009, 10:54

BME and it looks like istock will be my highest earner this month for the first time.  If they paid more than 20% commission for non-exclusives, I might start to like them :)

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: cybernesco on April 30, 2009, 19:25

BME for me as well. Denis

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: madelaide on April 30, 2009, 20:40

Still not amazing.  Today the balance is not matching my control, 63c more than I have in my spreadsheet.  I can't find the difference, it takes too long to find out and I haven't botherer yet to go back in all recent sales (although I checked the last five days and could not find it - it is not common that I don't notice a difference for so many days).

Title: Re: How are the non-exclusives doing under best match 2.0?
Post by: Freezingpictures on May 01, 2009, 01:40

It seems a much wider variety of images are being downloaded then before. So more images are found and in addition images which were doing well almost do similar well in the new best match. Earnings/day were very constant on a high level. So that means this week was amazing . BWE I think. Buyers must love it as well  :)