Author Topic: I give up-what do IS want for an editorial caption ? (Read 12971 times)

Phadrea · « **on:** November 26, 2013, 02:54 »

I am absolutely frustrated at the constant rejection of an editorial file on the basis of the caption not being sufficient.

I filled in the info as they wanted (time, date, what is happening, where and why) and still they say the caption is not sufficient. I then have to keep re-submitting (having to re-select keywords etc) only to be rejected again.

I really don't know what else to say than the info I have already given.

oxman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 26, 2013, 03:04 »

Post what you wrote

Phadrea · « **Reply #2 on:** November 26, 2013, 03:10 »

Coastal Bus, North Wales - August 08, 2013: seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

bunhill · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2013, 03:17 »

Quote from: Herg on November 26, 2013, 03:10

Coastal Bus, North Wales - August 08, 2013: seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

You need to go and read the instructions about here and here about how the caption should be formatted. You are getting it completely wrong vs how they want it.

Tone · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2013, 03:17 »

Quote from: Herg on November 26, 2013, 03:10

Coastal Bus, North Wales - August 08, 2013: seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

The location has to come first:
Llandudno, North Wales - August 8th, 2013: Driver of a coastal bus giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Phadrea · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2013, 03:31 »

ok, thanks.

Difydave · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2013, 06:22 »

Just a technicality maybe, but the Country should just be "Wales" shouldn't it?
Don't exactly repeat what you have as a title or description, and don't assume that something is happening that isn't actually shown in the photo.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2013, 06:27 »

Quote from: Difydave on November 26, 2013, 06:22

Just a technicality maybe, but the Country should just be "Wales" shouldn't it?
Don't exactly repeat what you have as a title or description, and don't assume that something is happening that isn't actually shown in the photo.

It has to be 'town, Wales, UK'. And in fact, they'll accept just 'town,UK'.
For a while I got wrong rejections for putting 'town,Scotland, UK', (some inspectors mistakenly thought it should be only 'UK') but now all the inspectors seem to be toeing the official line on that.
I have also had some accepted with 'county, Scotland, UK' where it is an open countryside photo.

Difydave · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2013, 06:46 »

Quote from: ShadySue on November 26, 2013, 06:27

Quote from: Difydave on November 26, 2013, 06:22
Just a technicality maybe, but the Country should just be "Wales" shouldn't it?
Don't exactly repeat what you have as a title or description, and don't assume that something is happening that isn't actually shown in the photo.
It has to be 'town, Wales, UK'. And in fact, they'll accept just 'town,UK'.
For a while I got wrong rejections for putting 'town,Scotland, UK', (some inspectors mistakenly thought it should be only 'UK') but now all the inspectors seem to be toeing the official line on that.
I have also had some accepted with 'county, Scotland, UK' where it is an open countryside photo.

That's worth knowing Liz. Thanks.
I put "town, Cornwall, UK" on shots taken down here, and they have been accepted OK. I usually put the nearest town on open countryside shots.

stockphotoeurope · « **Reply #9 on:** November 26, 2013, 14:29 »

I thought Cornwall was a (ceremonial) county, not country. So I'd say 'town, Cornwall, England, UK', or just 'town, England, UK', or even 'town, Cornwall, England, Great Britain, UK'.
But I guess, as long as they accept it it's fine.

ShadySue · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2013, 14:37 »

Quote from: stockphotoeurope on November 26, 2013, 14:29

I thought Cornwall was a (ceremonial) county, not country. So I'd say 'town, Cornwall, England, UK', or just 'town, England, UK', or even 'town, Cornwall, England, Great Britain, UK'.
But I guess, as long as they accept it it's fine.

You don't even need England. I also had early rejections on 'London, England, UK', because someone thought it had to be 'London, UK'.

bunhill · « **Reply #11 on:** November 26, 2013, 14:39 »

London, England - always sounds like the start of DangerMouse to me

Phadrea · « **Reply #12 on:** November 28, 2013, 10:50 »

Sigh......they rejected it again despite me following their example YET AGIAN

Llandudno Wales August 7, 2013: Vintage Holiday Coach

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Tone · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2013, 10:59 »

Quote from: Herg on November 28, 2013, 10:50

Sigh......they rejected it again despite me following their example YET AGIAN

Llandudno Wales August 7, 2013: Vintage Holiday Coach

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Looks like you didn't punctuate it correctly. They will reject for that alone.

bunhill · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2013, 11:04 »

Quote from: Herg on November 28, 2013, 10:50

Sigh......they rejected it again despite me following their example YET AGIAN

Llandudno Wales August 7, 2013: Vintage Holiday Coach

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Why not just do it in the proper format - as in the links I posted, instead of trying to do it your own way ?

And - I think you could probably write a better caption than that too. If you are going to bother. Aim for two sentences with no repetition.

ShadySue · « **Reply #15 on:** November 28, 2013, 11:07 »

Quote from: Tone on November 28, 2013, 10:59

Quote from: Herg on November 28, 2013, 10:50
Sigh......they rejected it again despite me following their example YET AGIAN

Llandudno Wales August 7, 2013: Vintage Holiday Coach

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Looks like you didn't punctuate it correctly. They will reject for that alone.

Correct, and you MUST put UK.
Llandudno, Wales, UK - August 7, 2013: Caption
^

Hobostocker · « **Reply #16 on:** November 28, 2013, 11:56 »

I wonder, is Editorial selling well on Istock to justify the time needed for proper captioning ? I've some travel stuff on IS but so far it sold almost nothing as editorial while similar images are OK sold as RF.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 28, 2013, 15:32 »

Quote from: bunhill on November 28, 2013, 11:04

Quote from: Herg on November 28, 2013, 10:50
Sigh......they rejected it again despite me following their example YET AGIAN

Llandudno Wales August 7, 2013: Vintage Holiday Coach

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

Why not just do it in the proper format - as in the links I posted, instead of trying to do it your own way ?

And - I think you could probably write a better caption than that too. If you are going to bother. Aim for two sentences with no repetition.

If it's a "vintage" coach, why not use a second sentence to tell us something about it. What make is it? When was it built? Who operates the tours? How long have they been doing it? Usually a quick Google search will bring up whatever you need for the caption. Regards, David.

fotoVoyager · « **Reply #18 on:** November 28, 2013, 16:18 »

Quote from: Hobostocker on November 28, 2013, 11:56

I wonder, is Editorial selling well on Istock to justify the time needed for proper captioning ? I've some travel stuff on IS but so far it sold almost nothing as editorial while similar images are OK sold as RF.

It is true that regular RF sells better on iStock and given a choice between submitting an image as editorial or regular, I'd choose regular, but there's a much greater freedom with editorial and the reduction in post processing time because of editorial constraints makes it worth while I think.

ShadySue · « **Reply #19 on:** November 28, 2013, 20:46 »

Quote from: Hobostocker on November 28, 2013, 11:56

I wonder, is Editorial selling well on Istock to justify the time needed for proper captioning ? I've some travel stuff on IS but so far it sold almost nothing as editorial while similar images are OK sold as RF.

Depends entirely on your port. My editorial sells proportionately, but my 'other' content is essentially 'editorial that doesn't need releases'.

Phadrea · « **Reply #20 on:** November 29, 2013, 03:26 »

But the Uk info was in the description. Surely if all the info is there it doesn't matter what order it is put>

Description:

llandudno, Wales, UK – August 08, 2013

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

ibogdan · « **Reply #21 on:** November 29, 2013, 04:00 »

I also gave up sending them editorials because of the refused files due the wrong description.

bunhill · « **Reply #22 on:** November 29, 2013, 04:09 »

Quote from: Herg on November 29, 2013, 03:26

But the Uk info was in the description. Surely if all the info is there it doesn't matter what order it is put>

Description:

llandudno, Wales, UK – August 08, 2013

Seaside coach on the Great Orme road, Llandudno North Wales with driver giving a guided tour via a microphone to passengers on the coach who are looking out at the view out to sea.

If you want it accepted then do it how they want it and not how you think it is surely good enough. Format it exactly like in the examples here and here. Not almost like. Start with a capital letter. Don't miss out the colon. Don't add a huge gap or make it a new paragraph.

Also - if you are going to bother, then why not try to craft a better caption about the coach trip? Reading it out loud to yourself should help. Two sentences often works well. You say a thing - and then you add something more but being careful to use different words so as to avoid repetition.

Difydave · « **Reply #23 on:** November 29, 2013, 06:02 »

As bunhill says it has to be in the exact format they require. Think of it like typing a password. Near enough won't do. I would also agree with the advice to break it down into a couple of sentences, and make sure the sentences read OK. Apart from the rules, the caption could make the difference between having a sale or not. Short and to the point, with no repetition but with all the relevant information will do it.

Ron · « **Reply #24 on:** November 29, 2013, 06:05 »

Follow the rules or dont submit. Bunhill is right

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