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BaldricksTrousers

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« on: March 28, 2011, 10:22 »

I just got the lowest sale ever from iStock. Lower than the lowest rate in 2004.

Yup, it was for 8 effing cents.

Thanks for the insult, iS.


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jamirae
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 10:25 »

how is that possible?  from deep discounted credit packs?


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michealo


« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 10:30 »

I just got the lowest sale ever from iStock. Lower than the lowest rate in 2004.

Yup, it was for 8 effing cents.

Thanks for the insult, iS.

That sucks

the partner program looks lofty by comparison ;-)


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BaldricksTrousers

Dreamstime GaugeiStock Gauge
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 10:36 »

Maybe a deep discount but more likely its a 2003 or 2004 50c credit.

But if it is a 50c credit, then my 17% commission should pay 8.5c. But the iStock rounding down reduces 8.5c to 8c, which is a further commission cut of 5.9%.

It's amazing how they grab 5% or 10% or 15% more to top up their commission share, as it's vital for their "sustainability", then casually slash an extra 5.9% off my commission in what appears to be violation of the terms they imposed on us, because it's merely "rounding" the money and 6% therefore is of no consequence.


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ProArtwork

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 10:38 »

How about contacting support and confirm. Could be an error.


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BaldricksTrousers

Dreamstime GaugeiStock Gauge
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 10:39 »

History tells us there are no errors when it comes to how low a commission can be.


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Chico


« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 11:36 »

How about contacting support and confirm. Could be an error.

i'm waiting for support responses by weeks.


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VB inc


« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2011, 14:16 »

wow... 8 cents... talk about micro royalties... i think time would be better spent going through trash and getting plastic bottles for recycling. In the US, at least u get like 5 cents per plastic bottle.  Grin

I get pissed when i see $5 royalties when usually they earn me close to $8 on my vectors.


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pancaketom


Dreamstime GaugeiStock Gauge
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2011, 14:24 »

I got a .10 royalty before they cut the %, so I guess that could get rounded down to .07

That is pretty sad.


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Risamay


iStock Gauge
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2011, 14:28 »

Maybe a deep discount but more likely its a 2003 or 2004 50c credit.

But if it is a 50c credit, then my 17% commission should pay 8.5c. But the iStock rounding down reduces 8.5c to 8c, which is a further commission cut of 5.9%.

It's amazing how they grab 5% or 10% or 15% more to top up their commission share, as it's vital for their "sustainability", then casually slash an extra 5.9% off my commission in what appears to be violation of the terms they imposed on us, because it's merely "rounding" the money and 6% therefore is of no consequence.

What an affront. On all fronts.


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OhGoAway!

iStock Gauge
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 15:06 »

Ugh. I'm having a hell of a time adjusting to my new fancy 23 cent royalties for XS Sad You know it's bad when you can't tell by looking at the balance if you've had sales or not.

And yes, that * partner program. I'm thoroughly against it, always have been, but man, would I love to make more than a buck or two a day again Sad 


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luissantos84

Dreamstime GaugeiStock Gauge
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 15:36 »

my lowest is on 0.11$


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Risamay


iStock Gauge
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2011, 16:27 »

Ugh. I'm having a hell of a time adjusting to my new fancy 23 cent royalties for XS Sad You know it's bad when you can't tell by looking at the balance if you've had sales or not.

And yes, that  partner program. I'm thoroughly against it, always have been, but man, would I love to make more than a buck or two a day again Sad 

Without the PP, I'd not clear $100 per month now.

As an exclusive, I was clearing about $500 per month.

The PP offered (and still does) a nice monthly boost.


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luissantos84

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2011, 16:36 »

Ugh. I'm having a hell of a time adjusting to my new fancy 23 cent royalties for XS Sad You know it's bad when you can't tell by looking at the balance if you've had sales or not.

And yes, that  partner program. I'm thoroughly against it, always have been, but man, would I love to make more than a buck or two a day again Sad 

Without the PP, I'd not clear $100 per month now.

As an exclusive, I was clearing about $500 per month.

The PP offered (and still does) a nice monthly boost.

only 100$ with a 2500 portfolio?


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ShadySue
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2011, 17:19 »

Without the PP, I'd not clear $100 per month now.
As an exclusive, I was clearing about $500 per month.
To be honest , a lot of remaining exclusives are also dropping $$ and dl, though not quite that much - yet.


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lisafx
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 17:40 »

I just got the lowest sale ever from iStock. Lower than the lowest rate in 2004.

Yup, it was for 8 effing cents.

Thanks for the insult, iS.

Wow.  Just...Wow.   Shocked


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grp_photo


« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2011, 17:42 »

In the US, at least u get like 5 cents per plastic bottle.  Grin


You get 25,- Euro-cents here in Germany :-). That is close to eight times more - you can call it the macro or traditional world of the "collecting-plastic-bottle-business"  Grin


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OhGoAway!

iStock Gauge
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2011, 18:06 »

Without the PP, I'd not clear $100 per month now.
As an exclusive, I was clearing about $500 per month.
To be honest , a lot of remaining exclusives are also dropping $$ and dl, though not quite that much - yet.

My numbers were dropping like a stone before the crown fell off, but now things are just BLEAK. I'm uploading and taking photos, but it's slow. And since iStock income is so bad, I keep having to stop and take other gigs that don't pay jack but at least it's something. Screwed either way :/


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ShadySue
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2011, 18:12 »

In the US, at least u get like 5 cents per plastic bottle.  Grin
You get 25,- Euro-cents here in Germany :-). That is close to eight times more - you can call it the macro or traditional world of the "collecting-plastic-bottle-business"  Grin
In Scotland, we recycle plastic bottles etc for the virtuous feeling.


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Mantis
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2011, 18:28 »

I had about 10 downloads today most of which were 16 cents to 25 cents.  What ever happened to 2-3 buck dl's? Geeze.


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OhGoAway!

iStock Gauge
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2011, 18:49 »

I had about 10 downloads today most of which were 16 cents to 25 cents.  What ever happened to 2-3 buck dl's? Geeze.

That was my question . . . I used to get mostly medium sales, some large, some small and xs. I bet I might have gotten a handful of large downloads in the last month. It seems almost everything is small and smaller.  With prices as they are though, I guess I can't blame the buyers :/


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TheSmilingAssassin


« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2011, 18:59 »

Maybe a deep discount but more likely its a 2003 or 2004 50c credit.

But if it is a 50c credit, then my 17% commission should pay 8.5c. But the iStock rounding down reduces 8.5c to 8c, which is a further commission cut of 5.9%.

It's amazing how they grab 5% or 10% or 15% more to top up their commission share, as it's vital for their "sustainability", then casually slash an extra 5.9% off my commission in what appears to be violation of the terms they imposed on us, because it's merely "rounding" the money and 6% therefore is of no consequence.

Wow, that's disturbing but what I find even more disturbing is that you haven't packed your bags and left.  Really is 8.5c a whole lot better than 8c?  They have insulted you and many others time and time again with these degrading commissions yet a lot refuse to leave?  Why? What exactly are you all waiting for?  At what point will enough be enough for you?  Do they need to actually give your images away for free before you decide it's not worth selling through these arseholes?  

These companies rip you off because you allow them to.  They're going to keep squeezing you until you've bled dry because they know you're a bunch of suckers.  I'm not trying to be rude but you can't argue here that you're not when you complain about 8c commissions and still stay.  And what's worse about people staying is that it brings down commissions in the entire industry over time.  8c!!!  Give them the flick already, Jesus!

That makes me so mad, but not just with them, with you and your tolerance for it!


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OhGoAway!

iStock Gauge
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2011, 21:07 »

Maybe a deep discount but more likely its a 2003 or 2004 50c credit.

But if it is a 50c credit, then my 17% commission should pay 8.5c. But the iStock rounding down reduces 8.5c to 8c, which is a further commission cut of 5.9%.

It's amazing how they grab 5% or 10% or 15% more to top up their commission share, as it's vital for their "sustainability", then casually slash an extra 5.9% off my commission in what appears to be violation of the terms they imposed on us, because it's merely "rounding" the money and 6% therefore is of no consequence.

Wow, that's disturbing but what I find even more disturbing is that you haven't packed your bags and left.  Really is 8.5c a whole lot better than 8c?  They have insulted you and many others time and time again with these degrading commissions yet a lot refuse to leave?  Why? What exactly are you all waiting for?  At what point will enough be enough for you?  Do they need to actually give your images away for free before you decide it's not worth selling through these arseholes?  

These companies rip you off because you allow them to.  They're going to keep squeezing you until you've bled dry because they know you're a bunch of suckers.  I'm not trying to be rude but you can't argue here that you're not when you complain about 8c commissions and still stay.  And what's worse about people staying is that it brings down commissions in the entire industry over time.  8c!!!  Give them the flick already, Jesus!

That makes me so mad, but not just with them, with you and your tolerance for it!

Wow. I wish you'd harness some of that passion and start up a company that pays us better. I dropped the crown 1 Feb, and I'm still trying to get things online elsewhere. This is not my only job, and I'm going as fast as I can. Believe me, there's nothing at all I'd like better than to have better alternatives . . . but in the meantime, I still have bills to pay and iStock isn't making me a lot, but I can't turn it down just this second.

I'll be the first to admit: when they started all their baloney with the PP so long ago, I fought hard against that because I thought there was a battle to be won by the contributors. I never dreamed that the canister thing, the RC thing, the Agency thing and now the fraud would follow within two years and bring the site so far down. In 2007, I was able to pay my house payment with my monthly earnings (on less than 300 images). I foresaw dilution and increased competition, but I never in a million years saw it coming to this. And it's * hard to get everything placed with other agencies.


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Sadstock


« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2011, 21:09 »

I just got the lowest sale ever from iStock. Lower than the lowest rate in 2004.

Yup, it was for 8 effing cents.

Thanks for the insult, iS.


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Don't worry!  Its all part of JJ's plan to reverse the tide and reach a new level of trust.  Doesn't this feel like a new level of trust to you?  He did promise it would be a different kind of trust.  

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=314342&messageid=6107482#post6107482


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Phil



« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2011, 23:00 »

I had about 10 downloads today most of which were 16 cents to 25 cents.  What ever happened to 2-3 buck dl's? Geeze.

That was my question . . . I used to get mostly medium sales, some large, some small and xs. I bet I might have gotten a handful of large downloads in the last month. It seems almost everything is small and smaller.  With prices as they are though, I guess I can't blame the buyers :/

people who buy lots of large images are the first to go to subscription plans


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