Author Topic: IS/Getty, hotshots! (Read 23492 times)

lagereek · « **Reply #25 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:27 »

Quote from: sharpshot on February 29, 2012, 03:07

Quote from: lisafx on February 28, 2012, 19:49
Oh, I see what you mean. For you in the UK, medicine is treated as a human right, where here in the US it's a for profit business.

Something fundamentally wrong about insurance companies and doctors getting rich off the backs of sick people, who often go broke paying medical bills. But I guess that's veering pretty wildly off topic
I used to be a big fan of the NHS but there are hospitals I would dread going in to now. The old wards used to be good, the nurses could see all the patients. Now there's a lot of new hospitals designed so that the nurses can't see the patients from their station. They have also given the nurses a lot more paperwork and the job doesn't attract the caliber of people it used to. Patients have a button to call a nurse but if they're confused or can't reach it, that's useless. When a relative was recently in hospital, I was shocked how standards have changed. There's still some very good nurses but if a patient can't get their attention, they are in for a bad time. The food in one hospital was disgusting, perhaps one of the reasons why my relative lost a lot of weight. I thing it's disgraceful that they are giving food to sick people that healthy people would find inedible.

Now I would like to see the NHS being used just for the poorest in society. If the majority of people paid medical insurance, I think standards would have to be much higher. It wont happen though, any government that privatised most of the NHS would lose the next election and it would be re-nationalised.

Yes, the NHS, isnt what it used to be, in some respects the American system of insurance is better or at least it grants good medical attention and for a small annual fee of insurance. Once down in Florida, I got bitten by a reptile and had s to spend three days in a hospital, cant remember its name but it was in Port Everglades or just outside. This whole affair costed me 10 bucks, had in been in Sweden, it would have costed a fortune.

CarlssonInc · « **Reply #26 on:** February 29, 2012, 04:01 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 03:27

Quote from: sharpshot on February 29, 2012, 03:07
Quote from: lisafx on February 28, 2012, 19:49
Oh, I see what you mean. For you in the UK, medicine is treated as a human right, where here in the US it's a for profit business.

Something fundamentally wrong about insurance companies and doctors getting rich off the backs of sick people, who often go broke paying medical bills. But I guess that's veering pretty wildly off topic
I used to be a big fan of the NHS but there are hospitals I would dread going in to now. The old wards used to be good, the nurses could see all the patients. Now there's a lot of new hospitals designed so that the nurses can't see the patients from their station. They have also given the nurses a lot more paperwork and the job doesn't attract the caliber of people it used to. Patients have a button to call a nurse but if they're confused or can't reach it, that's useless. When a relative was recently in hospital, I was shocked how standards have changed. There's still some very good nurses but if a patient can't get their attention, they are in for a bad time. The food in one hospital was disgusting, perhaps one of the reasons why my relative lost a lot of weight. I thing it's disgraceful that they are giving food to sick people that healthy people would find inedible.

Now I would like to see the NHS being used just for the poorest in society. If the majority of people paid medical insurance, I think standards would have to be much higher. It wont happen though, any government that privatised most of the NHS would lose the next election and it would be re-nationalised.

Yes, the NHS, isnt what it used to be, in some respects the American system of insurance is better or at least it grants good medical attention and for a small annual fee of insurance. Once down in Florida, I got bitten by a reptile and had s to spend three days in a hospital, cant remember its name but it was in Port Everglades or just outside. This whole affair costed me 10 bucks, had in been in Sweden, it would have costed a fortune.

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Also, what do you mean by it would have costed a fortune in Sweden? Overnight hospital stays do carry a charge...but it is like SEK90 per day, 3x90kr = 270kr or $40 is hardly a fortune?

lagereek · « **Reply #27 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:16 »

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on February 29, 2012, 04:01

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 03:27
Quote from: sharpshot on February 29, 2012, 03:07
Quote from: lisafx on February 28, 2012, 19:49
Oh, I see what you mean. For you in the UK, medicine is treated as a human right, where here in the US it's a for profit business.

Something fundamentally wrong about insurance companies and doctors getting rich off the backs of sick people, who often go broke paying medical bills. But I guess that's veering pretty wildly off topic
I used to be a big fan of the NHS but there are hospitals I would dread going in to now. The old wards used to be good, the nurses could see all the patients. Now there's a lot of new hospitals designed so that the nurses can't see the patients from their station. They have also given the nurses a lot more paperwork and the job doesn't attract the caliber of people it used to. Patients have a button to call a nurse but if they're confused or can't reach it, that's useless. When a relative was recently in hospital, I was shocked how standards have changed. There's still some very good nurses but if a patient can't get their attention, they are in for a bad time. The food in one hospital was disgusting, perhaps one of the reasons why my relative lost a lot of weight. I thing it's disgraceful that they are giving food to sick people that healthy people would find inedible.

Now I would like to see the NHS being used just for the poorest in society. If the majority of people paid medical insurance, I think standards would have to be much higher. It wont happen though, any government that privatised most of the NHS would lose the next election and it would be re-nationalised.

Yes, the NHS, isnt what it used to be, in some respects the American system of insurance is better or at least it grants good medical attention and for a small annual fee of insurance. Once down in Florida, I got bitten by a reptile and had s to spend three days in a hospital, cant remember its name but it was in Port Everglades or just outside. This whole affair costed me 10 bucks, had in been in Sweden, it would have costed a fortune.

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Also, what do you mean by it would have costed a fortune in Sweden? Overnight hospital stays do carry a charge...but it is like SEK90 per day, 3x90kr = 270kr or $40 is hardly a fortune?

Hi Martin! I dont know where you ended up with these figures, fortunately I have never had to spend time in a Swedish hospital but my old mother came out of hospital a few months back, 8 days, with care, this and that and found herself with a bill of 600 dollars, about 4000 kr. Not cheap is it?
Apart from that our elder-care is just about non existant, 3 years for a hip replacement, dental-care so expensive the ordinary person dont go to the dentist anymore. Sweden is more known for its medical and surgical expertise, rather then its hospitals and free medical care.

Oh by the way, 2 years ago, my dentist gave me, three implants, at 1100, bucks a piece: 3300 dollars. Not cheap.

Politically, all of these small Scandinavian countries want to make out how great everything is and many things are! but there is also a dark side to this.

best.

CarlssonInc · « **Reply #28 on:** February 29, 2012, 06:45 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 05:16

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on February 29, 2012, 04:01
Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 03:27
Quote from: sharpshot on February 29, 2012, 03:07
Quote from: lisafx on February 28, 2012, 19:49
Oh, I see what you mean. For you in the UK, medicine is treated as a human right, where here in the US it's a for profit business.

Something fundamentally wrong about insurance companies and doctors getting rich off the backs of sick people, who often go broke paying medical bills. But I guess that's veering pretty wildly off topic
I used to be a big fan of the NHS but there are hospitals I would dread going in to now. The old wards used to be good, the nurses could see all the patients. Now there's a lot of new hospitals designed so that the nurses can't see the patients from their station. They have also given the nurses a lot more paperwork and the job doesn't attract the caliber of people it used to. Patients have a button to call a nurse but if they're confused or can't reach it, that's useless. When a relative was recently in hospital, I was shocked how standards have changed. There's still some very good nurses but if a patient can't get their attention, they are in for a bad time. The food in one hospital was disgusting, perhaps one of the reasons why my relative lost a lot of weight. I thing it's disgraceful that they are giving food to sick people that healthy people would find inedible.

Now I would like to see the NHS being used just for the poorest in society. If the majority of people paid medical insurance, I think standards would have to be much higher. It wont happen though, any government that privatised most of the NHS would lose the next election and it would be re-nationalised.

Yes, the NHS, isnt what it used to be, in some respects the American system of insurance is better or at least it grants good medical attention and for a small annual fee of insurance. Once down in Florida, I got bitten by a reptile and had s to spend three days in a hospital, cant remember its name but it was in Port Everglades or just outside. This whole affair costed me 10 bucks, had in been in Sweden, it would have costed a fortune.

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Also, what do you mean by it would have costed a fortune in Sweden? Overnight hospital stays do carry a charge...but it is like SEK90 per day, 3x90kr = 270kr or $40 is hardly a fortune?

Hi Martin! I dont know where you ended up with these figures, fortunately I have never had to spend time in a Swedish hospital but my old mother came out of hospital a few months back, 8 days, with care, this and that and found herself with a bill of 600 dollars, about 4000 kr. Not cheap is it?
Apart from that our elder-care is just about non existant, 3 years for a hip replacement, dental-care so expensive the ordinary person dont go to the dentist anymore. Sweden is more known for its medical and surgical expertise, rather then its hospitals and free medical care.

Oh by the way, 2 years ago, my dentist gave me, three implants, at 1100, bucks a piece: 3300 dollars. Not cheap.

Politically, all of these small Scandinavian countries want to make out how great everything is and many things are! but there is also a dark side to this.

best.

Sounds really odd about your mother. Maximum you have to pay per year in medical care is 900kr, after that it is completely free. That is unless she jumped the queue and went privately? But yes, overnight stays do cost, usually 90kr per night, but can be up to 300kr - so that could explain it somewhat...(8-300kr=2400kr), plus add some medicines you (maxium you have to pay per year for meds 1600kr) and you get close. Dread to think what an 8 night stay in hospital would cost in the U.S. though....

Yes, the dentists are expensive. However you do get an allowance of 3-400kr per year that you can claim towards dental care. Anyway, another good reason to brush ones teeth properly!

sharpshot · « **Reply #29 on:** February 29, 2012, 07:07 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 05:16

...Oh by the way, 2 years ago, my dentist gave me, three implants, at 1100, bucks a piece: 3300 dollars. Not cheap.

I think it costs almost that much for one tooth in the UK (£2,000). They don't do implants on the NHS, except in some exceptional cases. People are paying lots of tax for the NHS and having to go to Europe for cheaper tooth implants.

grp_photo · « **Reply #30 on:** February 29, 2012, 07:09 »

If these supposed to be the best medical shots I must agree that most are not very good.

lisafx · « **Reply #31 on:** February 29, 2012, 13:18 »

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on February 29, 2012, 04:01

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Gotta side with CarlssonInc. on this one. Christian, not sure where you got the idea that insurance premiums are "small" here in the US. We (hubby and I) pay substantially more each month to our health insurance company than we pay on our mortgage! Plus we get the pleasure of paying a copay for every doctor visit and every prescription. And every year the cost goes up, and the things they cover become fewer.

It's.....what's the word I'm looking for...... Oh yeah: UNSUSTAINABLE.

wut · « **Reply #32 on:** February 29, 2012, 13:28 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 29, 2012, 13:18

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on February 29, 2012, 04:01

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Gotta side with CarlssonInc. on this one. Christian, not sure where you got the idea that insurance premiums are "small" here in the US. We (hubby and I) pay substantially more each month to our health insurance company than we pay on our mortgage! Plus we get the pleasure of paying a copay for every doctor visit and every prescription. And every year the cost goes up, and the things they cover become fewer.

It's.....what's the word I'm looking for...... Oh yeah: UNSUSTAINABLE.

So the situation is by far the worst for the lower class, not only because of the cost of health care services and insurance, but the cost of living. Let me explain, poor ppl can't afford to eat quality food, if they go out they go to McD or some other fast food joint, which leads to cardiovascular diseases, obesity, which leads to diabetes, high blood pressure etc so they in fact have to pay even more since they have to visit the doctor and pay for their medicines more often

lagereek · « **Reply #33 on:** February 29, 2012, 14:11 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 29, 2012, 13:18

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on February 29, 2012, 04:01

For people that are out of work in the U.S. I doubt they consider the insurance fee small....only when it is paid by an employer it could be considered small. Don't understand that kind of system at all. Here you get first class medical care whether you are poor or rich, working or not working - it is considered a basic human right.

Gotta side with CarlssonInc. on this one. Christian, not sure where you got the idea that insurance premiums are "small" here in the US. We (hubby and I) pay substantially more each month to our health insurance company than we pay on our mortgage! Plus we get the pleasure of paying a copay for every doctor visit and every prescription. And every year the cost goes up, and the things they cover become fewer.

It's.....what's the word I'm looking for...... Oh yeah: UNSUSTAINABLE.

Hi!

Yeah that bloody word creeps up everywhere, doesnt it. No I dont mean cheap premiums, but I must say the standards of hospitals in the US, is very good, well at least thats my experience.

BTW, one of my horses kicked out three of my teeth, everything else was OK, so it was down to inplants and since cosmetic work isnt subsidised by anybody in Sweden, it is very expensive, although listening to the prices in UK, one shudders.

SNP · « **Reply #34 on:** February 29, 2012, 14:22 »

I think the hotshots are really good this month. In fact I rated many of them. I didn't realize "Doctor" was in your long list of self-proclaimed accomplishments Christian ;-)

lagereek · « **Reply #35 on:** February 29, 2012, 15:37 »

Quote from: SNP on February 29, 2012, 14:22

I think the hotshots are really good this month. In fact I rated many of them. I didn't realize "Doctor" was in your long list of self-proclaimed accomplishments Christian ;-)

Thats an insult! not like you! read my post. Not doctor but Vet! there is a differance you know, the doctor is for people, a vet or veterinary surgeon takes care of animals.

Caz · « **Reply #36 on:** February 29, 2012, 16:01 »

It's interesting that one of the iStock images was shot by a qualified doctor (who happens to be a contributor also). Perhaps there are some diveregencies in practice between doctors and veterinaries

lisafx · « **Reply #37 on:** February 29, 2012, 16:38 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 15:37

Thats an insult! not like you! read my post. Not doctor but Vet! there is a differance you know, the doctor is for people, a vet or veterinary surgeon takes care of animals.

The difference is that doctors only know how to treat one animal, and veterinarians have to know how to treat them all!

Sorry about your kick in the face Christian. You must have gotten that horse as riled up as you get some people around here

Glad to hear you got your smile fixed.

SNP · « **Reply #38 on:** February 29, 2012, 17:18 »

hah, Christian...I thought you were beyond insults. don't dish it out if you can't take it....

I'm sure the people who created the hot shots loved your blanket dismissal of their talents.

Lisa- so true about vets. they need to know the anatomy of how many species!? lowly human doctors need remember just one anatomy....lol

gostwyck · « **Reply #39 on:** February 29, 2012, 17:31 »

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 15:37

Thats an insult! not like you! read my post. Not doctor but Vet! there is a differance you know, the doctor is for people, a vet or veterinary surgeon takes care of animals.

I thought you became a doctor when you retired as a footballer before going on to become an astronaut and then winning the Nobel peace prize. I'm sure that was in one of your earlier posts.

lagereek · « **Reply #40 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:04 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 29, 2012, 16:38

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 15:37

Thats an insult! not like you! read my post. Not doctor but Vet! there is a differance you know, the doctor is for people, a vet or veterinary surgeon takes care of animals.

The difference is that doctors only know how to treat one animal, and veterinarians have to know how to treat them all!

Sorry about your kick in the face Christian. You must have gotten that horse as riled up as you get some people around here

Glad to hear you got your smile fixed.

Not today though, back in 84 when I took my exams, we even had to know about exotic animals, you know reptiles, insects, parrots, you name it. Today, thats not included, its a special area.
Most of todays veterinary studies involves pets, horses and cows.

lagereek · « **Reply #41 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:08 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 29, 2012, 17:31

Quote from: lagereek on February 29, 2012, 15:37
Thats an insult! not like you! read my post. Not doctor but Vet! there is a differance you know, the doctor is for people, a vet or veterinary surgeon takes care of animals.

I thought you became a doctor when you retired as a footballer before going on to become an astronaut and then winning the Nobel peace prize. I'm sure that was in one of your earlier posts.

Dont forget my escaspades during WW2, paraschuted myself over to London, the rest is history I ended up in the Spandau nick.

lisafx · « **Reply #42 on:** March 01, 2012, 14:07 »

Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

lagereek · « **Reply #43 on:** March 01, 2012, 14:14 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 01, 2012, 14:07

Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

Cheers!

scottdunlap · « **Reply #44 on:** March 01, 2012, 14:55 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 01, 2012, 14:07

Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

- His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards.
- His words carry weight that would break a less interesting mans jaw.
- His blood smells like cologne.
- If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.

Like I said, he is... the most interesting man in the world!

SNP · « **Reply #45 on:** March 01, 2012, 22:18 »

Quote from: scottdunlap on March 01, 2012, 14:55

Quote from: lisafx on March 01, 2012, 14:07
Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

- His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards.
- His words carry weight that would break a less interesting mans jaw.
- His blood smells like cologne.
- If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.

are these yours or did you borrow them? they are brilliant. I love your post

Zephyr · « **Reply #46 on:** March 01, 2012, 23:52 »

Quote from: SNP on March 01, 2012, 22:18

Quote from: scottdunlap on March 01, 2012, 14:55
Quote from: lisafx on March 01, 2012, 14:07
Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

- His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards.
- His words carry weight that would break a less interesting mans jaw.
- His blood smells like cologne.
- If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.

are these yours or did you borrow them? they are brilliant. I love your post

Oh yes, he is the most interesting man indeed.

His legend precedes him, the way lightning precedes thunder.

His hands feel like rich, brown swede.

He speaks fluent French, in Russian.

He’s won trophies for his game face alone.

lagereek · « **Reply #47 on:** March 02, 2012, 01:21 »

Quote from: scottdunlap on March 01, 2012, 14:55

Quote from: lisafx on March 01, 2012, 14:07
Well Christian, you have certainly livened up this thread and kept us all entertained

- His personality is so magnetic, he is unable to carry credit cards.
- His words carry weight that would break a less interesting mans jaw.
- His blood smells like cologne.
- If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there.

Like I said, he is... the most interesting man in the world!

Brillant!

, is that an Oscar Wilde or Lord Byron? ( exept for the credit-cards), cause if its your own I really take my hat off. Brillant.

SNP · « **Reply #48 on:** March 02, 2012, 01:34 »

Quote from: retrorocket on March 01, 2012, 23:52

His hands feel like rich, brown swede.

His hands feel like what? lol......suede and a Swede are two very different things

Zephyr · « **Reply #49 on:** March 02, 2012, 02:10 »

I missed the incorrect spelling.

I guess Dos Equis doesn't advertise outside the US.
Here is the link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Interesting_Man_in_the_World

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