Author Topic: iStock February 2017 statement (Read 27614 times)

beketoff · « **on:** March 20, 2017, 15:28 »

So, it's out and we got so close to giving our assets for free. How about a license fee 0.00612 USD and a gross royalty of 0.00092 USD per image? Got 10 such sales... Laugh or cry?

Of course, it could be always a mistake, as usual with iStock, but something tells me it's not...

dpimborough · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2017, 17:46 »

I could have wept when I saw this sh-it

115 sales 59 of which were under 28 cents

I made a grand total of $40

Some of the glorious royalties
0.015
0.0375
0.03834
0.03993
0.04614
0.04792
0.0585
0.0585

I actually sold more files than Jan but made 50% less in revenue

The closure of account request has just been sent!

chrisdorney · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2017, 17:54 »

I noticed some January Sales on this new statement too. why is that? Am I missing something?

dpimborough · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2017, 17:58 »

Quote from: chrisdorney on March 20, 2017, 17:54

I noticed some January Sales on this new statement too. why is that? Am I missing something?

Why is that ? God knows these people are completely and utterly up that creek without a paddle!

Noedelhap · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2017, 18:55 »

Lowest commission is 3 cents. The sales revenue is 30% of what it used to be, I didn't even make the payout treshold.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2017, 19:30 »

I don't know whether I'm more upset by getting 15% of a 45 cent license (0.0675 cents) or 15% of a 25.698 sale (not sure what that was, but It's an essentials image) $3.8547 That's just crazy.

I can't license the iStock images anywhere else, but I'll have to rethink leaving images there. Who'd have thought that a Thinkstock sale at 28 cent royalty could look good???

Tossers!

jonbull · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2017, 20:12 »

While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2017, 20:17 »

Are you shittin me?

Mexico 100.00% iStock 0.42 15.00% 0.06

6 f-u-c-k-ing-cents? I think this is the end, they are driving all independents out with the insulting and repulsive commission. Two months to report that they just screwed us?

Digital66 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2017, 21:43 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 20, 2017, 20:17

Are you shittin me?

Mexico 100.00% iStock 0.42 15.00% 0.06

6 f-u-c-k-ing-cents? I think this is the end, they are driving all independents out with the insulting and repulsive commission. Two months to report that they just screwed us?

And exclusives as well!

PigsInSpace · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2017, 23:32 »

I got a 2 cent commission. I told myself after looking at January's numbers I would give them two months, just in case January was a fluke. This month 46% of my sales were under $0.25, which is making it hard to even want to stay for month number two.

PigsInSpace · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2017, 23:33 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 20, 2017, 19:30

I can't license the iStock images anywhere else, but I'll have to rethink leaving images there. Who'd have thought that a Thinkstock sale at 28 cent royalty could look good???

Tossers!

Why can't you license iStock images elsewhere?

Lana · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2017, 23:33 »

Does anyone know why in my statement it says "exclusive" in the column for exclusivity? Did I forget to tick something somewhere during the transition?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2017, 00:13 »

Quote from: PigsInSpace on March 20, 2017, 23:33

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 20, 2017, 19:30

I can't license the iStock images anywhere else, but I'll have to rethink leaving images there. Who'd have thought that a Thinkstock sale at 28 cent royalty could look good???

Tossers!

Why can't you license iStock images elsewhere?

It's just these specific images.

They were shot at an iStockalypse and part of the agreement I signed as a participant was that I would only license images shot there through iStock. At the time I was exclusive and didn't see a problem with agreeing to that. I doubt anyone would come after me if I broke the agreement, but I wouldn't do that regardless, so these particular (about 100) images I left at iStock when I removed the rest of my portfolio in early 2013 (the Getty-Google fiasco)

dpimborough · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2017, 00:45 »

That's it done I stopped uploading last June to see which way this would go.

As a result of this I sent the request to delete my account.

dpimborough · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2017, 00:50 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12

While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.

Yeah you keep uploading for your 15% good for you; I am sorry you think your work is worth so very little

Thats the reason Getty and eventually all the microstocks will end up throwing a few peanuts around and why royalties are so pitiful.

To many producers happy to take a pittance because ooh a sale is a sale.

suz7 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2017, 02:49 »

Quote from: Lana on March 20, 2017, 23:33

Does anyone know why in my statement it says "exclusive" in the column for exclusivity? Did I forget to tick something somewhere during the transition?

Mine says the same and I don't remember ticking anything

outoftheblue · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2017, 02:54 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12

While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.

Me too. But we need to carefully investigate why iStock is earning more. If they are stealing sales from better paying sites (almost everyone), our total earning end of month may actually be lower.

panicAttack · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2017, 03:04 »

is it possible to see only subscription RPD on todayis20 ?

beketoff · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2017, 03:16 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2017, 17:46

Some of the glorious royalties
0.015
0.0375
0.03834
0.03993
0.04614
0.04792
0.0585
0.0585

With all due respect to your glorious royalties, be thankful for what you get. Look at my originating post, I've got commission with 3 (three) zeros after the delimiter, i.e. less than a cent by a gross margin. =)

Keep hoping that this March (for February) statement is a gross mistake, as some people on IS forum complained that their statements included a lot of obvious mistakes (e.g. sales for January, or a grand total being equal to the previous reporting month, etc.).

PedroToledo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2017, 03:25 »

Quote from: Lana on March 20, 2017, 23:33

Does anyone know why in my statement it says "exclusive" in the column for exclusivity? Did I forget to tick something somewhere during the transition?

Me too and don´t know why

dpimborough · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2017, 04:15 »

Quote from: beketoff on March 21, 2017, 03:16

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2017, 17:46
Some of the glorious royalties
0.015
0.0375
0.03834
0.03993
0.04614
0.04792
0.0585
0.0585

With all due respect to your glorious royalties, be thankful for what you get. Look at my originating post, I've got commission with 3 (three) zeros after the delimiter, i.e. less than a cent by a gross margin. =)

Keep hoping that this March (for February) statement is a gross mistake, as some people on IS forum complained that their statements included a lot of obvious mistakes (e.g. sales for January, or a grand total being equal to the previous reporting month, etc.).

I saw and read your post that's what prompted me to stay up late and work through my own.

I don't think 0.00092 is right any more than 1.5 cents its all digusting

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2017, 05:05 »

Quote from: beketoff on March 21, 2017, 03:16

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 20, 2017, 17:46
Some of the glorious royalties
0.015
0.0375
0.03834
0.03993
0.04614
0.04792
0.0585
0.0585

With all due respect to your glorious royalties, be thankful for what you get. Look at my originating post, I've got commission with 3 (three) zeros after the delimiter, i.e. less than a cent by a gross margin. =)

Keep hoping that this March (for February) statement is a gross mistake, as some people on IS forum complained that their statements included a lot of obvious mistakes (e.g. sales for January, or a grand total being equal to the previous reporting month, etc.).

Sweet JC. That isn't a royalty it's a rounding error!

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2017, 05:06 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12

While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.

Have you ever considered that this attitude is why you can't make a decent living doing this (and keep complaining about it)?

Fairplay · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2017, 05:38 »

I still can't find the answer why my total $ for credit pack sales on ESP statement is about 15% less than on the old IS statistics chart!?
Do you have the same difference for Jan and Feb?

sephirot17 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2017, 07:09 »

Hi...I would like to know why in the Total Net Earnings the credits sales are not present. Why Getty?!?

derek · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2017, 07:36 »

Well this might be a lesson for any newcomers. Been with Istock since 2008 and I have approx. 56.000 downloads. My monthly take there this month was. $. 102. used to be an average of. $. 1100. thats how much IS have deteriorated since Getty got a hold of it.
My advice to any new member is. DON'T WASTE your time.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2017, 07:38 »

Quote from: olafvik on March 21, 2017, 03:25

Quote from: Lana on March 20, 2017, 23:33
Does anyone know why in my statement it says "exclusive" in the column for exclusivity? Did I forget to tick something somewhere during the transition?

Me too and don´t know why

I think it's just another of their eff ups.

Mine says Exclusive as well, but (a) the rate shown is 15% and (b) last month's said Non-Exclusive, so I think they know my status and just made an error in preparing the statements

qunamax · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2017, 07:44 »

In total I can't complain really, earnings are the same as with SS last month. But I did get a couple of 0.22, 0.21 and one 0.00!!! sale, but also I got many over 1.00, even some $4, while on SS they are mostly 0.25.

But I'm new and maybe riding a favoritized wave.

jonbull · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:25 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 05:06

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12
While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.
Have you ever considered that this attitude is why you can't make a decent living doing this (and keep complaining about it)?

Micro as i alteady told thousand of time is not my primary income, and i never gave importance. This year i upload more and earn more. i earn what i need with photography, at least i dont go arou. Lying about my earning in microstock.
All microstcok is a toatl waste and a robbery for serious photograpehe, thats why if you work in other environment, bei g a microstock is considered a shame , and thats why i never mix the two thi g

jonbull · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:33 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 05:06

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12
While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.
Have you ever considered that this attitude is why you can't make a decent living doing this (and keep complaining about it)?

Better complai. Than tell lie around a forum behind a nick name))
If i were cohere t i would close all my account in microstock, but cause i sell only my garbage stuff, i don't care what they do, i care if those diles sell. Actually istock even with some 0,04 cent, very few, is delivering a good payout. So complaini g about their choiche is eidicolous, 0,30 is much better and ethically good?
If they can geow like this, i have 450% more revenue in february than january, and 150% compared to dicember, i dont care what they do.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:38 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:25

Micro as i alteady told thousand of time is not my primary income, and i never gave importance. This year i upload more and earn more. i earn what i need with photography, at least i dont go arou. Lying about my earning in microstock.
All microstcok is a toatl waste and a robbery for serious photograpehe, thats why if you work in other environment, bei g a microstock is considered a shame , and thats why i never mix the two thi g

Definitely must be because it is a "robbery". Anyone claiming any success must be lying because how can they be earning so much more than you at it? 100% agree it is nothing to do with your skill level or the way you run your microstock portfolio or think you know everything and refuse to listen to anyone else. Also because the sites are limiting your downloads and because lots of other people get special treatment, must be. I can't think of any other reason.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #31 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:41 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:33

Better complai. Than tell lie around a forum behind a nick name))
If i were cohere t i would close all my account in microstock, but cause i sell only my garbage stuff, i don't care what they do, i care if those diles sell. Actually istock even with some 0,04 cent, very few, is delivering a good payout. So complaini g about their choiche is eidicolous, 0,30 is much better and ethically good?
If they can geow like this, i have 450% more revenue in february than january, and 150% compared to dicember, i dont care what they do.

Dude, w.t.f. is it your fingers or your keyboard that's the problem? You need to see a doctor or get your computer repaired ASAP

jonbull · « **Reply #32 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:42 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on March 21, 2017, 00:50

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2017, 20:12
While everything said is true, 15% is a robbery, and i have many 3 4 cent...my february was my best month ever in istock in the last years, near ss payout for february more than 4 times fotolia and dreamstime. At least they promised more sales and is true, if they can keep paying evermonth this sum i will begin uploading again. At the end i care of my total earning from micro end of month.

Yeah you keep uploading for your 15% good for you; I am sorry you think your work is worth so very little

Thats the reason Getty and eventually all the microstocks will end up throwing a few peanuts around and why royalties are so pitiful.

To many producers happy to take a pittance because ooh a sale is a sale.

My work serious never see any stock website if we speak serious. 0,25 cent is better.?Or the spamming of image in ss who diluite sales even with higher payout?
Or the advent of thousand of sellers from eastern europe uploading zillions of files?

jonbull · « **Reply #33 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:42 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 08:41

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:33
Better complai. Than tell lie around a forum behind a nick name))
If i were cohere t i would close all my account in microstock, but cause i sell only my garbage stuff, i don't care what they do, i care if those diles sell. Actually istock even with some 0,04 cent, very few, is delivering a good payout. So complaini g about their choiche is eidicolous, 0,30 is much better and ethically good?
If they can geow like this, i have 450% more revenue in february than january, and 150% compared to dicember, i dont care what they do.

Dude, w.t.f. is it your fingers or your keyboard that's the problem? You need to see a doctor or get your computer repaired ASAP

I have big finger and big hand in case.

jonbull · « **Reply #34 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:44 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 08:38

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:25

Micro as i alteady told thousand of time is not my primary income, and i never gave importance. This year i upload more and earn more. i earn what i need with photography, at least i dont go arou. Lying about my earning in microstock.
All microstcok is a toatl waste and a robbery for serious photograpehe, thats why if you work in other environment, bei g a microstock is considered a shame , and thats why i never mix the two thi g

Definitely must be because it is a "robbery". Anyone claiming any success must be lying because how can they be earning so much more than you at it? 100% agree it is nothing to do with your skill level or the way you run your microstock portfolio or think you know everything and refuse to listen to anyone else. Also because the sites are limiting your downloads and because lots of other people get special treatment, must be. I can't think of any other reason.

First of all i just said that they promised more revenue and i said that this is happening in my case. Maybe you need to re read stuff.

jonbull · « **Reply #35 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:46 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 08:38

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:25

Micro as i alteady told thousand of time is not my primary income, and i never gave importance. This year i upload more and earn more. i earn what i need with photography, at least i dont go arou. Lying about my earning in microstock.
All microstcok is a toatl waste and a robbery for serious photograpehe, thats why if you work in other environment, bei g a microstock is considered a shame , and thats why i never mix the two thi g

Definitely must be because it is a "robbery". Anyone claiming any success must be lying because how can they be earning so much more than you at it? 100% agree it is nothing to do with your skill level or the way you run your microstock portfolio or think you know everything and refuse to listen to anyone else. Also because the sites are limiting your downloads and because lots of other people get special treatment, must be. I can't think of any other reason.

Maybe better i lie about revenue to boost my ego...i not complain with anybody....only those who cannot even explain with word the facts...like simple maths...anybody already understood u dont worry)).

Mantis · « **Reply #36 on:** March 21, 2017, 08:56 »

Wow, my earnings down ˜34% over Jan. A sh!t load of .08 centers. Volume is up though, which means they are either attracting more sub buyers or converting existing credit buyers to subs and they are downloading more freely.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #37 on:** March 21, 2017, 09:01 »

Quote from: Mantis on March 21, 2017, 08:56

Wow, my earnings down ˜34% over Jan. A sh!t load of .08 centers. Volume is up though, which means they are either attracting more sub buyers or converting existing credit buyers to subs and they are downloading more freely.

My money is on getting sub buyers from other sites as my total downloads seem to stay about the same, but less money as more come from IS and less from SS.

jonbull · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2017, 09:36 »

Quote from: Mantis on March 21, 2017, 08:56

Wow, my earnings down ˜34% over Jan. A sh!t load of .08 centers. Volume is up though, which means they are either attracting more sub buyers or converting existing credit buyers to subs and they are downloading more freely.

i had 10% under 10 cent. under 5 cent 4.
checking my statement i see 4 sales from think stock for 24 dollar each. think stock accounts for more than 60% last month.
average sale is 0,75 cent per file.

dragonblade · « **Reply #39 on:** March 21, 2017, 10:32 »

Just read my Feb statement. Gosh, that 15% really stings - getting 72c out of $4.82 and $1.50 out of $10. I got a few of those plus the dreaded 9c and 7c sales. I do admit that I have a very small portfolio on all the stock sites that I submit to but my combined total for January and February on Getty / iStockphoto is slightly higher than my entire earnings at Dreamstime. Previously, before reading the royalties statement, I was considering stopping all uploads to iStockphoto. Now I'm not so sure.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #40 on:** March 21, 2017, 11:02 »

I'm sooo "pleased" to see that my share from two video sales was $0.82 and $0.706!

Lana · « **Reply #41 on:** March 21, 2017, 11:11 »

Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

Luka · « **Reply #42 on:** March 21, 2017, 11:31 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 08:41

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:33
Better complai. Than tell lie around a forum behind a nick name))
If i were cohere t i would close all my account in microstock, but cause i sell only my garbage stuff, i don't care what they do, i care if those diles sell. Actually istock even with some 0,04 cent, very few, is delivering a good payout. So complaini g about their choiche is eidicolous, 0,30 is much better and ethically good?
If they can geow like this, i have 450% more revenue in february than january, and 150% compared to dicember, i dont care what they do.

Dude, w.t.f. is it your fingers or your keyboard that's the problem? You need to see a doctor or get your computer repaired ASAP

Your comment really made my day!

Luka · « **Reply #43 on:** March 21, 2017, 11:41 »

Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11

Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

jonbull · « **Reply #44 on:** March 21, 2017, 11:52 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41

Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
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BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #45 on:** March 21, 2017, 12:05 »

In January I have a big block on the bar chart for "royalty free stills" and for February there is nothing at all under this heading. Anybody know what it is? Are other people missing it?

mikedabell · « **Reply #46 on:** March 21, 2017, 12:27 »

There is so much about the the reporting of sales since the change that I neither understand or trust , that I have ceased to upload any new files. How they think it is any thing but insulting to pay $0.006 to an exclusive for a photograph is just beyond me. As I can not face the prospect of reloading 5000 photos to other sites , I am just going to give up on all stock photography. In the early days it taught me a lot , the rejections were (mostly) valid and fair and even if there was disagreement it was light hearted and informative, now its just evil with trust destroyed and Istock and Getty ready to screw anyone for an extra cent. I shall just watch from the side lines as the money from all my hard work dwindles to nothing.

Lecaro · « **Reply #47 on:** March 21, 2017, 12:53 »

Where i can see how much did i earn and what photo it has been downloaded and what i earned from that download?
I can see at Royalties only that charts, and i don't understand a lot from them...

TG1112 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:03 »

I note the same phenomenon and I'm a non-exclusive, which shows the percentage of income 15% .My guess is that they have problems with selecting the options non-exclusive and exclusive to the report, so it will be the latter.

Luka · « **Reply #49 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:29 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 11:52

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41
Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
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Yep, but this may be just the beginning. How long do you thing it will take until the buyers would like to buy your images for 0.000whatever cents instead of paying 4 to 24 dollars? Moreover, don't be so happy that you sell more. I have found my images given for free on chinese websites, images that were token form Istock. I have complained and nothing happen. And it was form their website, because it happen that one of my stolen vector to be uploded only to them. After your work will be spread all over the internet, nobody will want to pay a cent for it anymore.
I don't say I gave up, that's why I didn't ask them to delete my account. I am just watching the trend and wait for a better deal.

Greetings.

PS: I also agree with you about shutterstock. Bad policy: accepting any crap. I don't see it as a good choice either. All nice stuff are buried in low quality images. Extremely demotivating.

derek · « **Reply #50 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:31 »

They dont even survive on their exclusives anymore. They survive because of all blue eyed newcomers gullible enough to ask for exclusivity! its beyond me how a company like Getty could have handled this so bad.

jonbull · « **Reply #51 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:39 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:29

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 11:52
Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41
Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
b

Yep, but this may be just the beginning. How long do you thing it will take until the buyers would like to buy your images for 0.000whatever cents instead of paying 4 to 24 dollars? Moreover, don't be so happy that you sell more. I have found my images given for free on chinese websites, images that were token form Istock. I have complained and nothing happen. And it was form their website, because it happen that one of my stolen vector to be uploded only to them. After your work will be spread all over the internet, nobody will want to pay a cent for it anymore.
I don't say I gave up, that's why I didn't ask them to delete my account. I am just watching the trend and wait for a better deal.
Greetings.

PS: I also agree with you about shutterstock. Bad policy: accepting any crap. I don't see it as a good choice either. All nice stuff are buried in low quality images. Extremely demotivating.

as i stated my photography real is not shutter stock or stock...micro account for less than 20% of my revenue...and is something i do only for those photos i would leave otherwise in my hard disk.
the period people were busy in micro i was busy building a style and my real business, made of direct assignment, editorial etc.
so right now i'm not a lot concerned what will be in ten years. if i quit from stock there are thousand of contributors ready to join it and my move will only hart me. micro stock is going stock direction, apart rare cases like stocksy or offset rf is what created this.
so i not complaint anymore. just look what are my revenue end of months and stop.
last week i sold three prints direct to customer through a gallery i collaborate with for more than 1000 dollar per print net in my pocket. that's what interest me.
microstock wil be something possible in third world country as i already said in many thread.

jonbull · « **Reply #52 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:41 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:29

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 11:52
Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41
Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
b

Yep, but this may be just the beginning. How long do you thing it will take until the buyers would like to buy your images for 0.000whatever cents instead of paying 4 to 24 dollars? Moreover, don't be so happy that you sell more. I have found my images given for free on chinese websites, images that were token form Istock. I have complained and nothing happen. And it was form their website, because it happen that one of my stolen vector to be uploded only to them. After your work will be spread all over the internet, nobody will want to pay a cent for it anymore.
I don't say I gave up, that's why I didn't ask them to delete my account. I am just watching the trend and wait for a better deal.
Greetings.

PS: I also agree with you about shutterstock. Bad policy: accepting any crap. I don't see it as a good choice either. All nice stuff are buried in low quality images. Extremely demotivating.

the problem is photography is so cheap. everybody can buy a camera a drone and be a photographer.
look instagram, thousand zillions of people with feed as good or better than the best micro stocker, real to give their photo free just for being noticed, same flickr 500px, instagram.
you think there will be lot of space for rf in the near future? i don't think.

Luka · « **Reply #53 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:48 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 13:39

as i stated my photography real is not shutter stock or stock...micro account for less than 20% of my revenue...and is something i do only for those photos i would leave otherwise in my hard disk.
the period people were busy in micro i was busy building a style and my real business, made of direct assignment, editorial etc.
so right now i'm not a lot concerned what will be in ten years. if i quit from stock there are thousand of contributors ready to join it and my move will only hart me. micro stock is going stock direction, apart rare cases like stocksy or offset rf is what created this.
so i not complaint anymore. just look what are my revenue end of months and stop.
last week i sold three prints direct to customer through a gallery i collaborate with for more than 1000 dollar per print net in my pocket. that's what interest me.
microstock wil be something possible in third world country as i already said in many thread.

aaa, I get it. Sorry, I don't sped too much time here and i didn't read your previous posts. Well, i am pretty new in this area - microstock- (from the end of 2013) so I suppose I took it a little bit to serious and it really hurt me seeing Istock taking this bad decision. I even wanted once to be exclusive (last year before their announcement I took the decision to wait until the end of the year and then become exclusive with them) After their decision, I changed my mind

I am only doing vectors and it is really hard to follow your vectors on internet. And they are spreading really fast all over.

Luka · « **Reply #54 on:** March 21, 2017, 13:52 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 13:41

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:29
Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 11:52
Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41
Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
b

Yep, but this may be just the beginning. How long do you thing it will take until the buyers would like to buy your images for 0.000whatever cents instead of paying 4 to 24 dollars? Moreover, don't be so happy that you sell more. I have found my images given for free on chinese websites, images that were token form Istock. I have complained and nothing happen. And it was form their website, because it happen that one of my stolen vector to be uploded only to them. After your work will be spread all over the internet, nobody will want to pay a cent for it anymore.
I don't say I gave up, that's why I didn't ask them to delete my account. I am just watching the trend and wait for a better deal.
Greetings.

PS: I also agree with you about shutterstock. Bad policy: accepting any crap. I don't see it as a good choice either. All nice stuff are buried in low quality images. Extremely demotivating.

the problem is photography is so cheap. everybody can buy a camera a drone and be a photographer.
look instagram, thousand zillions of people with feed as good or better than the best micro stocker, real to give their photo free just for being noticed, same flickr 500px, instagram.
you think there will be lot of space for rf in the near future? i don't think.

I don't know. I choose not to do photography because I didn't afford a very good camera. In my opinion, everybody can make pics, not everyone can make Photos.

I think the big problem is that micros are accepting all the crap. It was supposed to be something exclusive, for profesionalls, not for amateurs.

jonbull · « **Reply #55 on:** March 21, 2017, 14:18 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:48

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 13:39
as i stated my photography real is not shutter stock or stock...micro account for less than 20% of my revenue...and is something i do only for those photos i would leave otherwise in my hard disk.
the period people were busy in micro i was busy building a style and my real business, made of direct assignment, editorial etc.
so right now i'm not a lot concerned what will be in ten years. if i quit from stock there are thousand of contributors ready to join it and my move will only hart me. micro stock is going stock direction, apart rare cases like stocksy or offset rf is what created this.
so i not complaint anymore. just look what are my revenue end of months and stop.
last week i sold three prints direct to customer through a gallery i collaborate with for more than 1000 dollar per print net in my pocket. that's what interest me.
microstock wil be something possible in third world country as i already said in many thread.

aaa, I get it. Sorry, I don't sped too much time here and i didn't read your previous posts. Well, i am pretty new in this area - microstock- (from the end of 2013) so I suppose I took it a little bit to serious and it really hurt me seeing Istock taking this bad decision. I even wanted once to be exclusive (last year before their announcement I took the decision to wait until the end of the year and then become exclusive with them) After their decision, I changed my mind I am only doing vectors and it is really hard to follow your vectors on internet. And they are spreading really fast all over.

i'm not clearly happy with th trend...but my choice will hurt only me not the rest of industry...if i quit stock, i should quit any micro stock website, cause 4 cent are not so much different than 0,25...we are giving away files for penny. so we should just haven0't begun this micro stock in 2005.
if 100 of us quit stock 100 new contributor will upload more content, as i already stated in eastern europe and south east asia, photography is first hobby and there are literally million micro stocker.
in february i stopped uploading, but after watching this month i decide i will upload again. for me the important is average per sale. one dollar is very good.

jonbull · « **Reply #56 on:** March 21, 2017, 14:21 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:52

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 13:41
Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 13:29
Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 11:52
Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:41
Quote from: Lana on March 21, 2017, 11:11
Yes the sales volume seems to be up. So now more buyers will run to IStock for their cheap sub packages and SS and others will have to follow and introduce similar packages, right?

I hope it will be many of us leaving their platform, so the buyers would need to come back on shutterstock, fotolia, etc. Otherwise we need to find something else to do. I don't know you, all, and i cannot speak in the name of all , besides myself, but I will not agree to sell my work on pennies.

I have a few images left on Istock, this month I earned 13 dollars with them. I have 2-3 images sold with less than 0.28. But I am still unhappy because I know that if I have had many images there, I would have sold many with less than 0.28. It's just statistics, nothing more.

i agree with you but then analyze and i see that average sale in february in istock is 1 dollar in ss is 0,55...so while they sell for 0,03 they also sell more than 6 for 24 dollar many for 4 dollar and between 1 and 4. so in my case they increase the number of sales, the revenue and money for image sold. ss is plagued with spammers and diluting earning per contributor accepting millions of images pe week...the best would be dreamstime and fotolia for me but they sell not like stock together so far.
b

Yep, but this may be just the beginning. How long do you thing it will take until the buyers would like to buy your images for 0.000whatever cents instead of paying 4 to 24 dollars? Moreover, don't be so happy that you sell more. I have found my images given for free on chinese websites, images that were token form Istock. I have complained and nothing happen. And it was form their website, because it happen that one of my stolen vector to be uploded only to them. After your work will be spread all over the internet, nobody will want to pay a cent for it anymore.
I don't say I gave up, that's why I didn't ask them to delete my account. I am just watching the trend and wait for a better deal.
Greetings.

PS: I also agree with you about shutterstock. Bad policy: accepting any crap. I don't see it as a good choice either. All nice stuff are buried in low quality images. Extremely demotivating.

the problem is photography is so cheap. everybody can buy a camera a drone and be a photographer.
look instagram, thousand zillions of people with feed as good or better than the best micro stocker, real to give their photo free just for being noticed, same flickr 500px, instagram.
you think there will be lot of space for rf in the near future? i don't think.

I don't know. I choose not to do photography because I didn't afford a very good camera. In my opinion, everybody can make pics, not everyone can make Photos. I think the big problem is that micros are accepting all the crap. It was supposed to be something exclusive, for profesionalls, not for amateurs.

micro was only for amateurs. few professionals joined micro, that's why people like yuri had free way to make billion...had studio and pro joined micro from beginning there would have been the same competition that there is now in micro stock.
the crap is the other side of micro, and for me is the same as selling file for 6 cents commission.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #57 on:** March 21, 2017, 14:27 »

Quote from: Lecaro on March 21, 2017, 12:53

Where i can see how much did i earn and what photo it has been downloaded and what i earned from that download?
I can see at Royalties only that charts, and i don't understand a lot from them...

Select the Export tab on the left. Then select your contract from the drop down list, select PDF for the type and then click the download button

Luka · « **Reply #58 on:** March 21, 2017, 14:36 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 14:21

Quote
micro was only for amateurs. few professionals joined micro, that's why people like yuri had free way to make billion...had studio and pro joined micro from beginning there would have been the same competition that there is now in micro stock.
the crap is the other side of micro, and for me is the same as selling file for 6 cents commission.

I didn't know it was for amateurs and I don't know who yuri is Please do not charge my memory ) When I have discovered this area was already too late (2013). The problem is I have it now in my blood and i can not stop, even i know it may not be a good think. I guess I need a shrink to treat this obsession ) I'm just kidding. It crossed my mind to start doing photography and then I realize that a pretty good camera with all stuff you need exceed 10000 euros and I didn't want to risk loosing so much money. By the way, I am from Romania and I don't know many photographers / illustrators. I only met one on this form. But maybe because I am too busy with creating / uploading and my regularly job and I do not pay too much attention around me.

Nice speaking with you. Now I'll stop writting so, greetings from Romania (a country full of corruption and idiots all around )

tickstock · « **Reply #59 on:** March 21, 2017, 14:41 »

Quote from: Digital66 on March 20, 2017, 21:43

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 20, 2017, 20:17
Are you shittin me?

Mexico 100.00% iStock 0.42 15.00% 0.06

6 f-u-c-k-ing-cents? I think this is the end, they are driving all independents out with the insulting and repulsive commission. Two months to report that they just screwed us?
And exclusives as well!

I haven't looked at individual sales but the first two months are well above last year. Maybe my best ever Feb.

Lecaro · « **Reply #60 on:** March 21, 2017, 15:13 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2017, 14:27

Quote from: Lecaro on March 21, 2017, 12:53
Where i can see how much did i earn and what photo it has been downloaded and what i earned from that download?
I can see at Royalties only that charts, and i don't understand a lot from them...

Select the Export tab on the left. Then select your contract from the drop down list, select PDF for the type and then click the download button

Thank you!

kirill4mula · « **Reply #61 on:** March 21, 2017, 15:26 »

GI earned more but me less.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #62 on:** March 21, 2017, 15:38 »

Quote from: kirill4mula on March 21, 2017, 15:26

GI earned more but me less.

That visual really puts it in perspective doesn't it?

dragonblade · « **Reply #63 on:** March 21, 2017, 18:16 »

Just trying to recall....minimum payout at iStockphoto is $100 or thereabouts? Wonder whether I should dessert them once I reach payout.

dpimborough · « **Reply #64 on:** March 22, 2017, 00:46 »

Quote from: dragonblade on March 21, 2017, 18:16

Just trying to recall....minimum payout at iStockphoto is $100 or thereabouts? Wonder whether I should dessert them once I reach payout.

Yes payout is $100 do what you think best

I sent my deletion request no doubt they will take their sweet time reacting to it

Harvepino · « **Reply #65 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:57 »

My 2 cents in this discussion. I've done some simple analysis of my Feb sales:

I had 347 sales in Feb. Out of those, 48 were less than $0.10 commission and worth $2.88 in total. Yeah 48 sales for $2.88.

Other 93 sales were between $0.10 and $0.28, which is usual Thinkstock commission. These 93 sales earned me $16.90.

Summing it up, it makes 141 sales worth $19.78. Or in other words, I gave away 141 images for almost nothing.

How many sales are above $2,88? (Whis is how much my 48 lowest value sales earned in total and at the same time it equals to one On Demand Sale at SS.) I have 5 sales above $2,88. Five in a month!

To sum it up, in Feb I gave away 141 images for free, I had 201 very low value sales and 5 of what I would call "normal" sales.

I never expected anything else but disappointment from iStock's changes, but this exceeded my expectations. I am going to release my anger somewhere else, not by words in this forum and then I'll decide my next steps.

beketoff · « **Reply #66 on:** March 22, 2017, 02:45 »

A person at iStock's forum suggested that February subscription sales show only half of February's sales:

"The subs plans that started halfway through the month and beyond won't be reported until the next month's report. So going forward every report will show the last half of the previous month and the first half of the current month. Should even out with the total but if you're using a tool like Stock Performer the monthly subs for the most recent month will always be about half. "

If true, this may explain at least half of the problem (i.e. super low earnings for month of February as reported now).

coconut · « **Reply #67 on:** March 22, 2017, 03:38 »

I have lots of $0.28, some $0.09, $0.02 s and a $53, I don't know what to say. Laugh or cry?

sharpshot · « **Reply #68 on:** March 22, 2017, 04:38 »

Quote from: dragonblade on March 21, 2017, 18:16

Just trying to recall....minimum payout at iStockphoto is $100 or thereabouts? Wonder whether I should dessert them once I reach payout.

No need to wait, they make a last payment with less than the minimum in your account. As they take a long time removing a portfolio from their various sites, I suppose they have to pay out?

Lana · « **Reply #69 on:** March 22, 2017, 05:20 »

Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

drd · « **Reply #70 on:** March 22, 2017, 06:53 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 15:38

Quote from: kirill4mula on March 21, 2017, 15:26
GI earned more but me less.

That visual really puts it in perspective doesn't it?

Why is this happening, was there a price change in February?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #71 on:** March 22, 2017, 07:50 »

Quote from: drd on March 22, 2017, 06:53

Why is this happening, was there a price change in February?

It's the changeover from the old model - where independents could earn up to 20% to the new one where it's a flat 15% for all indies. As they had "grandfathered" rates for several years, I was still getting 18% (which is still pathetic) even though I'd removed most of my portfolio in 2013. Not sure what the rate was for the person posting the chart but you get the idea

Stock Wife · « **Reply #72 on:** March 22, 2017, 13:42 »

Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 05:20

Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

I think I had PP sales on my January statement for sales made in December. Is that what you meant?

Stockmaan · « **Reply #73 on:** March 22, 2017, 15:26 »

Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 05:20

Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

YES! Where is PP report form DECEMBER 2016!!? Anybody? Still waiting ..

PixelBytes · « **Reply #74 on:** March 22, 2017, 15:36 »

Quote from: Luka on March 21, 2017, 11:31

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 21, 2017, 08:41
Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2017, 08:33
Better complai. Than tell lie around a forum behind a nick name))
If i were cohere t i would close all my account in microstock, but cause i sell only my garbage stuff, i don't care what they do, i care if those diles sell. Actually istock even with some 0,04 cent, very few, is delivering a good payout. So complaini g about their choiche is eidicolous, 0,30 is much better and ethically good?
If they can geow like this, i have 450% more revenue in february than january, and 150% compared to dicember, i dont care what they do.

Dude, w.t.f. is it your fingers or your keyboard that's the problem? You need to see a doctor or get your computer repaired ASAP

Your comment really made my day!

Yeah, we all make typos, and English is not everyone's first language, but jonbull, many of your posts are borderline unintelligible. I'd like to be able to follow the conversation. Maybe proofread before you post?

PixelBytes · « **Reply #75 on:** March 22, 2017, 15:40 »

Quote from: Mantis on March 21, 2017, 08:56

Wow, my earnings down ˜34% over Jan. A sh!t load of .08 centers. Volume is up though, which means they are either attracting more sub buyers or converting existing credit buyers to subs and they are downloading more freely.

I haven't checked my individual sales. Not up for the kick in the teeth. But my total is exactly 35% down on January too. Wonder if this is coincidence or the average loss for indies.

cdwheatley · « **Reply #76 on:** March 22, 2017, 15:51 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on March 21, 2017, 12:05

In January I have a big block on the bar chart for "royalty free stills" and for February there is nothing at all under this heading. Anybody know what it is? Are other people missing it?

I have this same issue except this block shows exactly 10% of what I made in January, they left off a zero. Missing about a 1/3 of my normal income, hope its a glitch.

Lana · « **Reply #77 on:** March 22, 2017, 23:47 »

Quote from: Stock Wife on March 22, 2017, 13:42

Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 05:20
Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

I think I had PP sales on my January statement for sales made in December. Is that what you meant?

I just checked my January statement - it does have several sales from December, but most of them show 0.00 commission (and I don't want to know what it is), but I don't think they are PPs, more looks like the missing December subs.

sarah2 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 23, 2017, 02:28 »

50% down on Jan.
OK, stopped uploading last summer but still......

nicksimages · « **Reply #79 on:** March 23, 2017, 05:50 »

I too can confirm that January and February totals were higher for me than previous months.
I have not uploaded anything since November.
I am waiting for March results and will do decisions after that.

Also I noticed many people complain that February was bad compared to January. But they did not compare to previous months (under the old royalty structure)

drd · « **Reply #80 on:** March 23, 2017, 07:44 »

Quote from: nicksimages on March 23, 2017, 05:50

I too can confirm that January and February totals were higher for me than previous months.
I have not uploaded anything since November.

Do not open the champagne yet!

drd · « **Reply #81 on:** March 23, 2017, 07:51 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 22, 2017, 07:50

Quote from: drd on March 22, 2017, 06:53
Why is this happening, was there a price change in February?

It's the changeover from the old model - where independents could earn up to 20% to the new one where it's a flat 15% for all indies. As they had "grandfathered" rates for several years, I was still getting 18% (which is still pathetic) even though I'd removed most of my portfolio in 2013. Not sure what the rate was for the person posting the chart but you get the idea

Thanks. I thought the changeover happened on 1st of January?

Stock Wife · « **Reply #82 on:** March 23, 2017, 07:57 »

Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 23:47

Quote from: Stock Wife on March 22, 2017, 13:42
Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 05:20
Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

I think I had PP sales on my January statement for sales made in December. Is that what you meant?

I just checked my January statement - it does have several sales from December, but most of them show 0.00 commission (and I don't want to know what it is), but I don't think they are PPs, more looks like the missing December subs.

Did you have any ThinkStock sales? Depending on how you tracked things in the past, you may not have realized that those were previously lumped into PP by IS. So that may be where most of your PP sales came from in the past.

Fairplay · « **Reply #83 on:** March 23, 2017, 08:32 »

Quote from: nicksimages on March 23, 2017, 05:50

I too can confirm that January and February totals were higher for me than previous months.
I have not uploaded anything since November.
I am waiting for March results and will do decisions after that.

Also I noticed many people complain that February was bad compared to January. But they did not compare to previous months (under the old royalty structure)

January stats included some unreported December sales. When I removed them my totals for Jan and Feb are lower than every month in the previous year.
No more uploads from me!

Lana · « **Reply #84 on:** March 23, 2017, 09:54 »

Quote from: Stock Wife on March 23, 2017, 07:57

Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 23:47
Quote from: Stock Wife on March 22, 2017, 13:42
Quote from: Lana on March 22, 2017, 05:20
Does anyone know if the PP's from December have been reported already?

I think I had PP sales on my January statement for sales made in December. Is that what you meant?

I just checked my January statement - it does have several sales from December, but most of them show 0.00 commission (and I don't want to know what it is), but I don't think they are PPs, more looks like the missing December subs.

Did you have any ThinkStock sales? Depending on how you tracked things in the past, you may not have realized that those were previously lumped into PP by IS. So that may be where most of your PP sales came from in the past.

True, I have a few thinkstock sales from December, so then here they are my December PPs, very few

lightphoto · « **Reply #85 on:** March 27, 2017, 11:42 »

Good News, Bad News.

The bad news is I just took a look at the detailed sales figures for Jan & Feb. For the most part sale prices are WAY down, with a couple of $0.16 sales which nets $0.02 for me at 15% (non-exclusive), and I have no idea what their pricing structure actually is.

The good news is that overall sales are pretty decent for those two months, up 84% and 95% compared to Jan & Feb last year. Feb was my highest month at Getty/iStock since March '16. February actually beat Shutterstock for the first month that has happened since 2012 (mostly because SS has sucked this year so far, but still).

So, I will stick it out for awhile longer. I hate ESP and the changeover was simply awful. As usual, us non-exclusives are the last ones to hear anything or get responded to. Making them 10's of thousands over the years means nothing, apparently.

zsooofija · « **Reply #86 on:** March 29, 2017, 15:03 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 21, 2017, 07:38

Quote from: olafvik on March 21, 2017, 03:25
Quote from: Lana on March 20, 2017, 23:33
Does anyone know why in my statement it says "exclusive" in the column for exclusivity? Did I forget to tick something somewhere during the transition?

Me too and don´t know why

I think it's just another of their eff ups.

Mine says Exclusive as well, but (a) the rate shown is 15% and (b) last month's said Non-Exclusive, so I think they know my status and just made an error in preparing the statements

Ok, so it's not just me. I was already imagining how they sue me about this

Hildegarde · « **Reply #87 on:** March 29, 2017, 23:50 »

My total sales are 10-25% of what my monthly totals were in the months before all the changes.

I stopped uploading when they announced the changes. I won't be uploading more.

And to think I had thought of becoming exclusive before they pulled this because my sales were so much better there. That is the key----were. Seeing how they treat contributors, I would never go exclusive now. I do not trust them. Too much lack of transparency. Lots of things.

Not sure if I will close it or not but won't be adding more thanks to above and seeing the 2 cents sales.

ravens · « **Reply #88 on:** April 20, 2017, 15:22 »

Why are many of you still with Istock? No use complaining. Get out. Close your account. I closed mine in the beginning of this year and I feel a LOT better ever since!

angelawaye · « **Reply #89 on:** April 20, 2017, 21:49 »

They are very shady ... I don't know why people are staying with them.

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