Nav: Home
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 26, 2012, 10:16

Login with username, password and session length

MicrostockGroup

Microstockgroup Sponsors


« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print

Topic: Istock guarantee?  

(Read 3796 times)
Albert Martin


« on: October 27, 2009, 19:24 »


Thus I am not contributor on Istockphoto or even any other micro, I've heard some designers complaining about there are many copies of works of independent authors from other sites on istock. Members of istock use other agencies to get inspired with their works and then make great money due to that.

Lately I've read some post from Akaiser who was falsely accused for 'abusive inspiration' (whatever that may mean) with comparing two similar, but not as close similar images to get such sanctions as disabling them. I am sure there are some other authors who suffer because of such twisted policy on istock.

Thank God that I am on macro agencies where this stupidity isn't happening!




Ignore | Logged


DepositPhotos.com
ichiro17


« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 19:37 »

Yet you are on a micro forum complaining about it even though it doesn't even apply to you.  If you don't want to be part of this, why even participate in the forum?


Ignore | Logged


Vonkara



« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 23:01 »

Hahaha macro dinosaur upsizing images for dinosaur designers. If you look around your neibourhood you will see only microstock images, from the biggest microstockers. It's normal that people copy microstock IMO
« Last Edit: October 27, 2009, 23:03 by Vonkara »

Ignore | Logged


Artemis


« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 00:04 »

Hahaha macro dinosaur upsizing images for dinosaur designers. If you look around your neibourhood you will see only microstock images, from the biggest microstockers. It's normal that people copy microstock IMO

When i look around in *my* neighbourhood i definitely dont see only microstock images from the biggest microstockers (when i think typical microstock images i think Yuri Arcurs and his clones; and a big cheesy pool of uninspired handshakes, headsets, office and lifestyleshoots) but often very inspired , original and creative ideas and images.
There's inspiration and there's copying; i find the latter lame, lazy, cheap and much more, definitely not "normal".
Upon what do you base this "dinosaur images for dinosaur designers"?


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 03:18 »

I suppose that dinosaur is term for duying species and that is not even close to wanishing macro ;-)

Why I am concerned and why I look around?

Maybe just because I have some friends who are selling on microstock and told me to think about uploading there. Now, before I do so I do my research on some rules.

Rules on microstock are quite selective for some people and there is plenty of double standards on some agencies.

That is something I observe and trying to persuade myself that I am wrong. But, as things look like there can not be clean space regarding some stupid rules, stupid policies and false moral norms.


Ignore | Logged


FD



« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 03:58 »

Copying concepts that are easy to reshoot has become the norm apparently on stock. Although the practice can be easily called 'infringement' (derivative work), it is so widespread that it is like fighting a tidal wave. Whenever you have a well selling concept, you can be sure that the lurking copycats will reshoot it and 6 months later your own shot slowly gets drowned on page 2 or 3.

It happens everywhere and in all directions, so I don't understand why you are singling out iStock exclusives. Adding to that, I don't believe designers/buyers do care for it. As long as they have the shots they want, it's just fine.


Ignore | Logged


loop


« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 05:51 »

Well, there's a well established modality that consists on copying ideas adn photos from Istockexclusives an uploading them everywhere exept at istock, I suppose that in order to avoid trouble. I've been a victim of that many times.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2009, 05:53 by loop »

Ignore | Logged


sjlocke

iStock Gauge
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 08:07 »

Sounds like someone got re-ject-ed...

Feel free to post your images here for critique.


Ignore | Logged


FD



« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 09:00 »

Sounds like someone got re-ject-ed...
That or Wild Dingo is back.


Ignore | Logged


bittersweet


« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 09:42 »

The random group of designers overheard to be discussing/complaining about "copying" at istock seems the most farfetched part of the whole thing. Wink

Besides, as Loop mentioned, in my experience it more commonly works the other way around.

Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 05:07 »

Looking at what you all said I am a bit more determined not to upload on micros ;-)


Ignore | Logged


sjlocke

iStock Gauge
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 06:17 »

Whew!  I'm sure we all just breathed a sigh of relief. :p


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 03:33 »

I've looked through istock search. They really have enough copies of ideas indeed on site alone. As well other micros. Seems that thousands of amateurs are learning how to shoot copying other amateurs concepts and ideas.

It is not illegal to copy ideas at all if you bring your own expression through them. But, looking at handshakes or mobile phone people shots and some other concepts there I was laughing very loud. 

Hopefully I will retain my sales on macros due to my production isn't so cheap as most of what I saw on micros. I might upload some of my crap-shots and tests on micros, just to see how it goes ;-)


Ignore | Logged


Fyletto


« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 03:53 »

Well, you are in the wrong forum... Do you really think that micro work is just a crap ? You really do not understand it, that is clear, my friend... Technical requierements are often higher than macros and people are learning fast along with muh higher micro standards. If you compare it to some macro dinosaurs, you would clearly see, how much progress did micros make over the last few years... And future development along with new products will cut even bigger piece of cake of macro segmwnt. Perhaps you even would have not been accepted to some micros, if you tried.. And as of guarrantees and copying ? As I said before, micros and authors learn fast. This will be crucial for their further success... 


Ignore | Logged


sjlocke

iStock Gauge
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 07:59 »

Gosh, please don't upload your crap shots.  I don't think we all could stand the competition.


Ignore | Logged


ichiro17


« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2009, 08:59 »

while you are at it, stop logging in under different aliases and being a douchebag on this forum, dude


Ignore | Logged


gostwyck

Dreamstime GaugeiStock Gauge
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2009, 09:40 »

Hopefully I will retain my sales on macros due to my production isn't so cheap as most of what I saw on micros. I might upload some of my crap-shots and tests on micros, just to see how it goes ;-)


You might want to check out Dreamstime's 'Editor's Choice' containing about 8000 images which they've selected to promote their new posters/prints offer;

http://www.dreamstime.com/best-stock-photos

There's some breathtakingly good imagery there and of course that's without the input of the Istock exclusives many of whom produce outstanding microstock work.

Do feel free to give us a link to your fantastic work too so that we can judge it for ourselves. Don't be shy.


Ignore | Logged


Vonkara



« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2009, 11:02 »

Gosh, please don't upload your crap shots.  I don't think we all could stand the competition.
LMFAO XD


Ignore | Logged


Peter



« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2009, 11:16 »

Looking at what you all said I am a bit more determined not to upload on micros ;-)

more money for us! Cheesy


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 09:37 »

Well, you are in the wrong forum... Do you really think that micro work is just a crap ? You really do not understand it, that is clear, my friend... Technical requierements are often higher than macros and people are learning fast along with muh higher micro standards. If you compare it to some macro dinosaurs, you would clearly see, how much progress did micros make over the last few years... And future development along with new products will cut even bigger piece of cake of macro segmwnt. Perhaps you even would have not been accepted to some micros, if you tried.. And as of guarrantees and copying ? As I said before, micros and authors learn fast. This will be crucial for their further success... 

I didn't tried to get accepted yet. I do my homework before any action I take! This thread is one part of my homework...


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 09:45 »

Hopefully I will retain my sales on macros due to my production isn't so cheap as most of what I saw on micros. I might upload some of my crap-shots and tests on micros, just to see how it goes ;-)


You might want to check out Dreamstime's 'Editor's Choice' containing about 8000 images which they've selected to promote their new posters/prints offer;

http://www.dreamstime.com/best-stock-photos

There's some breathtakingly good imagery there and of course that's without the input of the Istock exclusives many of whom produce outstanding microstock work.

Do feel free to give us a link to your fantastic work too so that we can judge it for ourselves. Don't be shy.


 6,500,000 images on that agency and only such small number of 'editor's choice'... Well, I am really pleased to see some of that work showing up on micros... But, most of other 6.494000 images aren't such quality.
I won't allow you to criticize my work because it is sold to very big companies as well to worlds top advertising agencies... It is OUT to put my work here for any sort of critic.


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2009, 09:52 »

Gosh, please don't upload your crap shots.  I don't think we all could stand the competition.

Regarding that I've seen some of your work I can tell you do your shots very well! Thus, most of them are very cheap to produce and because of that very easy to copy... I don't do such cheap shootings for production - but, I have plenty of similar test shots I've took before real production shootings!


Ignore | Logged


ShadySue
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 10:30 »

I won't allow you to criticize my work because it is sold to very big companies as well to worlds top advertising agencies... It is OUT to put my work here for any sort of critic.

Well, generally it's put up or shut up. It seems hardly fair to patronise Sean, who didn't ask for your remarks, without being willing to have reciprocation.
Your choice.


Ignore | Logged


Albert Martin


« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2009, 10:31 »

I won't allow you to criticize my work because it is sold to very big companies as well to worlds top advertising agencies... It is OUT to put my work here for any sort of critic.

Well, generally it's put up or shut up. It seems hardly fair to patronise Sean, who didn't ask for your remarks, without being willing to have reciprocation.
Your choice.

This advocating is very funny dear Sue ;-)

Added: I really like your animal shots - they are great!
« Last Edit: November 01, 2009, 10:35 by Albert Martin »

Ignore | Logged


sjlocke

iStock Gauge
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2009, 10:36 »

I won't allow you to criticize my work because it is sold to very big companies as well to worlds top advertising agencies... It is OUT to put my work here for any sort of critic.

Well, I won't allow you to criticize my work because it is sold to very big companies as well to worlds top advertising agencies.

So, as Sue said, put up or shut up.


Ignore | Logged


Microstock InsiderEnvateo Photo Tools
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
iStock Stats - Where iStock ranks in Traffic, Files, Royalties & More
iStockPhoto.com
amanda1863 5 4537 Last post August 22, 2006, 15:49
by amanda1863
only 20% on Istock?
iStockPhoto.com
Peter 17 3157 Last post February 10, 2008, 15:51
by sharply_done
iStock down?
iStockPhoto.com
pixelbrat 9 1464 Last post February 26, 2008, 13:20
by Ziva_K
$500 For Every 500 Photo Guarantee « 1 2 3 »
Microstock News
Randy McKown 71 10794 Last post March 14, 2012, 19:29
by Randy McKown
Shutterstock Guarantee??
Shutterstock.com
holgs 11 2517 Last post October 21, 2009, 03:29
by gostwyck

TinyPortal v1.0.5 beta 1© Bloc