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Title: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: nebia on August 18, 2017, 15:14
bad month am very disappointed 38 dl for 15 dollars  :( :( am not exclusive am new at istock 4 month for the first payment this is normal ??
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Bad Company on August 18, 2017, 16:12
bad month am very disappointed 38 dl for 15 dollars  :( :( am not exclusive am new at istock 4 month for the first payment this is normal ??

Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball to let you if this normal for you  8)

Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: nebia on August 18, 2017, 16:20
bad month am very disappointed 38 dl for 15 dollars  :( :( am not exclusive am new at istock 4 month for the first payment this is normal ??

Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball to let you if this normal for you  8)

hhhhhh okey
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Mantis on August 18, 2017, 16:40
I am wondering why the improved royalties.  Could it be that the old way they managed finances was flawed?  I really don't see new customers being the trigger and I don't buy the reduction in assets being the cause of my work magically being purchased.  I made over $500 which was about $45 more than last month. Three months ago I made over $600 there.  Strange.  Even though I made over $500 it was not nearly enough to make up for the horrible month I had on SS, which was $350 less than my average.  Nonetheless, the rest of the year might be an indication of whether this will sustain itself for a couple of more years. Not going to hold my breath, though. But I will take the doe.  IS tied with SS for July....never before in 10 years has this happened.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Bad Company on August 18, 2017, 16:41
I you want us to give you a valid opinion than we need to see your portfolio to determine the quality, volume and keywords.  I made like $10 my first month back in 2011. It takes time- like years to get good results.


Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: namussi on August 18, 2017, 21:12
I am wondering why the improved royalties.  Could it be that the old way they managed finances was flawed?  I really don't see new customers being the trigger and I don't buy the reduction in assets being the cause of my work magically being purchased.

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Perhaps iStock reads these forums, and tweaks the algorithm so that some members get better results. That way they're less likely to complain, and more likely to say nice things about iStock.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Bad Company on August 18, 2017, 22:13
I am wondering why the improved royalties.  Could it be that the old way they managed finances was flawed?  I really don't see new customers being the trigger and I don't buy the reduction in assets being the cause of my work magically being purchased.

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Perhaps iStock reads these forums, and tweaks the algorithm so that some members get better results. That way they're less likely to complain, and more likely to say nice things about iStock.

Than I must not be a member since my sales for July sucked  :-[

Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: akaza on August 18, 2017, 23:27
just slighty fewer than July
July slighty fewer than May
but my portofolio images increases over time :(
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Chichikov on August 19, 2017, 02:26
Wow! Probably my WME on iStock/Getty
(I don't even want to verify…)
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ferdinand on August 19, 2017, 02:30
IS earned more then SS - for the first time in 8 years
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Pauws99 on August 19, 2017, 02:53
It rather looks as though IS has changed its Algorithm substantially of course this is a good thing if your sales have gone up as it illustrates what a great photographer you are.  Of course if your sales are down clearly IS are rigging their search in a disgraceful attempt to favour certain contributors.  ???
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Dumc on August 19, 2017, 03:08
July earnings on istock were higher compared to Fotolia, which was unthinkable a year ago. It was also my second best month.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: southpict on August 19, 2017, 04:06
July earnings on istock were higher compared to Fotolia, which was unthinkable a year ago. It was also my second best month.

Me too but it's because FT is down (dead?) . :(
My best result in July was DT. IS is low but like other months.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Stock Wife on August 19, 2017, 13:25
BME on IS. Mostly due to an $80 subscription royalty. I had <20 images get less than .28 cents (and some of those were Getty sales) but I have to say that the $80 sub really goes a long way into reducing my grumbles about their system. My average sub sale since they implemented the system is over 50 cents, nearly twice what I would have gotten with a flat rate.


**Update: I just checked my raw file today instead of todayis20 and realized that this $80 was from Getty not the sub package. My average is still over 50 cents per sub, better than the nonexclusive rate of 28 cents. But I didn't want to leave inaccurate info posted.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: polar on August 19, 2017, 18:57
Has the royalty statement for this month (dated Aug. 1) been posted yet? The last one I can see in my account is the one dated July 1. I thought it would come out on Friday since the 20th is on a Sunday, but I'm not seeing anything.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ShadySue on August 19, 2017, 19:14
Has the royalty statement for this month (dated Aug. 1) been posted yet? The last one I can see in my account is the one dated July 1. I thought it would come out on Friday since the 20th is on a Sunday, but I'm not seeing anything.
No, the one which is came out yesterday (before the weekend) was for July.
Obviously the statement for August can't come out before the end of the month, and as always will come out on or around the 20th of the following month, i.e. September.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ShadySue on August 19, 2017, 19:20
BMY for $$, though only by 20c. Effectively, July and May tied dead even for dls and rpd.
Still, although $$ are 16% up on June '17, they're 16% down on July 2016, and it's my new worst July for $$ and dls since July 2007, pre-exclusivity.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: drd on August 20, 2017, 04:01
BME on IS. Mostly due to an $80 subscription royalty. I had <20 images get less than .28 cents (and some of those were Getty sales) but I have to say that the $80 sub really goes a long way into reducing my grumbles about their system. My average sub sale since they implemented the system is over 50 cents, nearly twice what I would have gotten with a flat rate.

That $80 subscription royalty is probably a mistake and expect a refund next month!
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: namussi on August 20, 2017, 05:14
My best-selling image this year is of an eclipse.

I should imagine sales of that will plunge after Monday.

Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: Stock Wife on August 20, 2017, 08:58
BME on IS. Mostly due to an $80 subscription royalty. I had <20 images get less than .28 cents (and some of those were Getty sales) but I have to say that the $80 sub really goes a long way into reducing my grumbles about their system. My average sub sale since they implemented the system is over 50 cents, nearly twice what I would have gotten with a flat rate.

That $80 subscription royalty is probably a mistake and expect a refund next month!

Could be but I have had plenty of over $20 royalties over subs over the last few months.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: polar on August 20, 2017, 20:27
Has the royalty statement for this month (dated Aug. 1) been posted yet? The last one I can see in my account is the one dated July 1. I thought it would come out on Friday since the 20th is on a Sunday, but I'm not seeing anything.
No, the one which is came out yesterday (before the weekend) was for July.
Obviously the statement for August can't come out before the end of the month, and as always will come out on or around the 20th of the following month, i.e. September.

Thanks for the info. I had a brain cramp about the weird reporting schedule.

5 bucks short of a payout. Disappointing since I thought I'd get over the finish line this month based on the number of sales. It's really annoying not having a running earnings tab. There's really no excuse for it.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ShadySue on August 21, 2017, 03:20
They're not making any excuses. That's just how it is, end of.  >:(
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: theendup on August 21, 2017, 09:37
In last three months, IS has passed Shutterstock in both downloads, earnings and average royalty per image in my case.



Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: polar on August 21, 2017, 10:14
They're not making any excuses. That's just how it is, end of.  >:(

I know (sigh). It doesn't make me any less annoyed.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: alexzappa on August 21, 2017, 10:49
I stopped uploading 10 months ago and they're not trying to make me change opinion...

6 DLs for a whopping 0.62 $ total  >:(
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: CraigMiller on August 22, 2017, 01:15
This month was a complete disaster (August payout report for July sales). Mainly because something is really wrong with the Getty counter on the ESP profile page. I had noted down my total downloads as of July 1 and then again on August 1 and had been expecting to be paid on something close to that number of downloads. Then when I got my figures, I was paid on only about 60% of the total downloads I had calculated there to be during the month of July. I am going to assume I am not the only one and that many other people have been shorted as well on their download number payout.

The other, and bigger problem now is that the counter is completely broken. The weekend of August 12th and 13th it wasn't counting and adding downloads. It started working again on the 14th, but now it has stopped working completely again as of the 18th. So we have no way of even knowing how many downloads we will have had for August when we get the figures on the 20th of September. So when we get paid in September we will also have no way of knowing if the download payout figure is correct or not.

I haven't checked the Getty forums to see if anyone else has raised this issue specifically yet or not or talked about getting a lower payout than what was expected.

Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: alexzappa on August 22, 2017, 02:13
Am I the only one that cannot find this famous counter on ESP Profile page?
Where exactly should it be? On the same page what other infos are displayed?
 
All I can see is personal information and the button to update them
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ShadySue on August 22, 2017, 03:06
They have said all along that the downloads year to date is inaccurate. In my own case, even the rate of inaccuracy varies wildly. Where they're pulling the inaccurate data from, I can't imagine.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: CraigMiller on August 22, 2017, 06:54
They have said all along that the downloads year to date is inaccurate. In my own case, even the rate of inaccuracy varies wildly. Where they're pulling the inaccurate data from, I can't imagine.

Yes, I am aware that the counter is broken. Getty also added in a lump of downloads to the counter around the 20th of last month to makeup for some missing numbers. But what I am referring to is the daily number form day to day that is way off. What I mean is that I was noting down my download numbers everyday from the profile page and then when the figures came out on the 19th that just passed, I didn't have nearly the number of downloads each day that the counter was showing. So I was thinking broken means they aren't adding in the downloads they should be everyday, but it is the opposite of that. The counter is showing many more downloads each day on average than what they are paying out. And why would the counter add files to the counter if there aren't downloads to match it? It is illogical and this is what makes me think we are not getting paid on many of the sales being made.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: CraigMiller on August 22, 2017, 06:55
Am I the only one that cannot find this famous counter on ESP Profile page?
Where exactly should it be? On the same page what other infos are displayed?
 
All I can see is personal information and the button to update them

Here is the link: https://accountmanagement.gettyimages.com/Account/Profile

You will need to login to see it though. Look at Downloads Year To Date once you log in.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: alexzappa on August 22, 2017, 16:08
Am I the only one that cannot find this famous counter on ESP Profile page?
Where exactly should it be? On the same page what other infos are displayed?
 
All I can see is personal information and the button to update them

Here is the link: https://accountmanagement.gettyimages.com/Account/Profile

You will need to login to see it though. Look at Downloads Year To Date once you log in.

thank you very much, but I still can see only personal information and no counter

Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: nebia on August 22, 2017, 16:29
i think you have to update your profile write your informations and click on update
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: nebia on August 22, 2017, 16:30
Am I the only one that cannot find this famous counter on ESP Profile page?
Where exactly should it be? On the same page what other infos are displayed?
 
All I can see is personal information and the button to update them

Here is the link: https://accountmanagement.gettyimages.com/Account/Profile

You will need to login to see it though. Look at Downloads Year To Date once you log in.

thank you very much, but I still can see only personal information and no counter


i think you have to update your profile write your informations and click on update
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: ShadySue on August 22, 2017, 16:41
Maybe sigoisette is right, I don't know, but mine looks like this:
(http://www.lizworld.com/AccMan.jpg)
and the mailing address etc is underneath this.

However, remember that the downloads YTD is based on inaccurate data pulled from goodness knows where.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: CraigMiller on August 22, 2017, 23:28
Am I the only one that cannot find this famous counter on ESP Profile page?
Where exactly should it be? On the same page what other infos are displayed?
 
All I can see is personal information and the button to update them

Here is the link: https://accountmanagement.gettyimages.com/Account/Profile

You will need to login to see it though. Look at Downloads Year To Date once you log in.

thank you very much, but I still can see only personal information and no counter

Your welcome. That is strange. I assume you are a contributor of Photo, Illustration, or Video?

Perhaps write a support email to Getty and ask them about this.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: alexzappa on August 23, 2017, 06:27
Thank you all.
It was mainly curiosity, I couldn't find it and yes, I already tried to update the info but nothing changed.

Anyway, I don't think it's worth to lose any more time with istock: I stopped uploading many months ago and I can just wait for the 20th of the month.
Title: Re: iStock Royalty Statements - Published in August
Post by: YadaYadaYada on August 23, 2017, 10:58
I am wondering why the improved royalties.  Could it be that the old way they managed finances was flawed?  I really don't see new customers being the trigger and I don't buy the reduction in assets being the cause of my work magically being purchased.

CONSPIRACY THEORY: Perhaps iStock reads these forums, and tweaks the algorithm so that some members get better results. That way they're less likely to complain, and more likely to say nice things about iStock.

But SS drops sales for people who complain here, to punish them?  ;D