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How does your Istock stats goes (Lately)

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29 (15.8%)
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« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2008, 03:41 »
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..I think it would be fair that IS makes it clear what is their policy with non exclusives....
Jean

It is pretty clear when we look at the search results.
Yes it is with today's best match, this may change or not.
The best match effect today enlarges the gap between exclusivity and non exclusivity. In such a way that the two groups are starting to be unfriendly with each other. Some of my CN that are exclusives are not reacting anymore to contacts or have even expressed the wish not to be in my CN despite they have been initialy taking the initaitive to invite me. On the other side, some non exclusives are getting a bit agressive with exclusive. I regret the time where those groups were just part of the same community.
A clear information on the policy would make things easier for all, clearify what should be our expectations and avoid this frustration many of us non exclusive have for the time......
jean


lagereek

« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2008, 06:44 »
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Hi Lisa!

You know it must be the nature of our images!  Ive noticed they are skyrocketing at other agencies, selling like crazy, could be regular buyers actually??
As our corporate-industrial shots are pushed back here, they are to be found in premiere at the others and therefore selling more then ever.
Anyway, I cant really think of any other explanation. Can you?

all the best  Christian


Yes, its almost uncanny.  Almost on the date of last best match change here, I noticed that many of my own files and yours ( saw them ) were moved to the actual first two pages in some of the other agencies.
If that wasnt enough, ELs are increasing a lot!
Well Lisa weve had luck! in the unlucky, if you know what I mean.

best.  Christian

I think you are right Christian.  Most likely buyers who are looking for our images have started going where they can actually find them.



« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2008, 08:33 »
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I don't know how to copy my stats and paste them here but I started in march 2007. My downloads this month are the same as in september 2007 (my worst month at IS besides the first two months) I must have uploaded about 500 images since september 2007.  So, not exclusive and going down, down, down.
SS is not doing too swell this month either BTW...

CofkoCof

« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2008, 08:47 »
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Interesting topic on IS:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=80320&page=1

It surprises me it didn't get locked already.

« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2008, 10:53 »
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I have to praise myself...

Again today, I sold two similar images at once, both for L size and 2,40 $.

Isn't EL but I feel good!

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=6962825
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=6962971

AVAVA

« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2008, 11:13 »
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Good For you Borg,

 You have to bask in the sunlight of your accomplishments. Enjoy your day and spoil yourself with something.

Best,
AVAVA

hali

« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2008, 12:57 »
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Hey SJ,
 
 Thanks for catching that. Actually it could be mute as if it were voiceless. You have to forgive my spelling, I am dyslexic and if it weren't for spell check you wouldn't be able to read a thing I write.

Best,
AVAVA

sj and avava, both right. moot because it's pointless; mute because IS ain't  hEARing nothing.  ;D

RT


« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2008, 13:05 »
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In such a way that the two groups are starting to be unfriendly with each other. Some of my CN that are exclusives are not reacting anymore to contacts or have even expressed the wish not to be in my CN despite they have been initialy taking the initaitive to invite me. On the other side, some non exclusives are getting a bit agressive with exclusive.

I think money brings out the bad side in everyone, everytime iS change the best match it means one side or the other will be worse off as a result,  and the result of that is blaming each other.

« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2008, 13:39 »
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As a small timer, Istock has always been good for me but lately it has been a struggle with slow sales. I am too small to consider going exclusive so I wil hang in there.

shank_ali

« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2008, 13:54 »
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Right now sales mostly depend on wherever you are exclusive to IS or not.
Your sales depend mostly on the fact your images have a use to a buyer and  has nothing to do if your exclusive or not.

Right. And how do I sell those useful images if they are buried under exclusive images in the search? :)
You keyword them correctly and perhaps ask another kind contributor to add them to a particular lightbox they manage.You can link a few images together..Then forget about it and go create some more magic...

« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2008, 14:39 »
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Right now sales mostly depend on wherever you are exclusive to IS or not.

Your sales depend mostly on the fact your images have a use to a buyer and  has nothing to do if your exclusive or not.


Right. And how do I sell those useful images if they are buried under exclusive images in the search? :)

You keyword them correctly and perhaps ask another kind contributor to add them to a particular lightbox they manage.You can link a few images together..Then forget about it and go create some more magic...


Maaan am I glad to be able to talk to an expert! You sure can explain this graph - I started in feb 2007. 5 months ago I started preparing to get exclusive by dec 13th (the estimate of getting diamond back then) so in pretty much two weeks. Now Im thinking about an uploadstop. What made my images not useful to the buyer anymore?


« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2008, 14:44 »
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graph doesnt show - perhaps now:

« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2008, 14:52 »
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and to give you an even better idea of whats happening: in April 2007 I didnt even have 100 images online. By now I have 1.133 images online!!!

AVAVA

« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2008, 16:34 »
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Once you have created a solid image that is needed by buyers then sales are based all about image placement on a site. Has been as long as I can remember. That table can turn over night, I have seen it many times. Diversify.

AVAVA

lisafx

« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2008, 16:37 »
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Once you have created a solid image that is needed by buyers then sales are based all about image placement on a site. Has been as long as I can remember. That table can turn over night, I have seen it many times. Diversify.

Truer words were never spoken (typed).  This should be embroidered on a doily above my work station. :)

shank_ali

« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2008, 17:51 »
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Once you have created a solid image that is needed by buyers then sales are based all about image placement on a site. Has been as long as I can remember. That table can turn over night, I have seen it many times. Diversify.

AVAVA
Your image is placed..............in the library like the other  4 million files.If the buyers keywords match yours you might get a sale.With so many new files getting added daily and the contributor base growing you cannot realistically base todays sales on past performances of anyone file our overall totals on previous BME/BDE.
best match is not the only way a buyer finds your file !

« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2008, 18:02 »
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best match is not the only way a buyer finds your file !

I'd say searching by best match accounts for 99.5% of sales, if not more.

lagereek

« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2008, 18:23 »
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Im looking right now at a pathetic Forum thread going on at IS where as usual all Exclusives are joining up at the nons, this and that, blaha, blahey etc, etc, etc, and now and then, up pops a Admin guy trying to calm things down. Same old codswhollop.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 18:26 by lagereek »

dbvirago

« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2008, 18:33 »
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Once you have created a solid image that is needed by buyers then sales are based all about image placement on a site. Has been as long as I can remember. That table can turn over night, I have seen it many times. Diversify.

AVAVA
Your image is placed..............in the library like the other  4 million files.If the buyers keywords match yours you might get a sale.With so many new files getting added daily and the contributor base growing you cannot realistically base todays sales on past performances of anyone file our overall totals on previous BME/BDE.
best match is not the only way a buyer finds your file !

No, but I can base it on performance on other sites. The top sites are all growing at a similar rate. My images are being uploaded and accepted at a similar rate. I understand with all the new competition, I am having to do more work to stay even as is the case on DT, FT, BigStock, and SS. At IS, sales have dropped like a rock ytd. The only absolutely known wildcard is the upload limits where we are at a huge disadvantage to the exclusives. I don't have the option to increase production.

« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2008, 19:08 »
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Im looking right now at a pathetic Forum thread going on at IS where as usual all Exclusives are joining up at the nons, this and that, blaha, blahey etc, etc, etc, and now and then, up pops a Admin guy trying to calm things down. Same old codswhollop.


All I see is independents griping they aren't making as much as they'd like, and despite posts from exclusives and independents that sales are pretty up and down equally, blame it on some conspiracy theory that iStock is out to get them.

AVAVA

« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2008, 19:18 »
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 Could you try that again Shank,

I didn't follow a word of it. I was saying that your image placement and what page it goes on in a search engine affects your sales drastically. Getty has their Holly owned content staggered near the top of their search engines because they are very aware of image placement affecting sales revenue. Istock also stacks their exclusives in better placements on the first pages where a buyer is most likely to see it ( don't anyone attack I am not jealous just pointing out a fact ). When a large group of buyers where asked how far they search the average was 2.5 pages deep in a collection. Image placement is a huge factor on sales. It has been and still is.

Best,
AVAVA

CofkoCof

« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2008, 19:26 »
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All I see is independents griping they aren't making as much as they'd like, and despite posts from exclusives and independents that sales are pretty up and down equally, blame it on some conspiracy theory that iStock is out to get them.
Equally? Are we looking at the same thread? Could you please supply me with all the indepenents that report their sales up and I'll supply you with at least twice the ammount of independants with their sales down. It's not that hard to count. The poll in this topic can even do it for you.

Even Michael Jay reported the new best match is (most likely) in favour of exclusives:
Quote
I don't say this is a general trend, and I'd agree the last best match changes most likely favoured exclusives a bit more than non-exclusives but it also favoured older images over newer ones (compared to the sort order before) and is giving some very strange and inconclusives results across the board.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 19:55 by CofkoCof »

Tuilay

« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2008, 20:02 »
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Im looking right now at a pathetic Forum thread going on at IS where as usual all Exclusives are joining up at the nons, this and that, blaha, blahey etc, etc, etc, and now and then, up pops a Admin guy trying to calm things down. Same old codswhollop.


All I see is independents griping they aren't making as much as they'd like, and despite posts from exclusives and independents that sales are pretty up and down equally, blame it on some conspiracy theory that iStock is out to get them.

I just went in to the forum to see where the blood letting is,
ironically, the main protagonist of this "conspiracy" you say, has a cynic named sjlocke.
maybe i read the wrong thread, but from what i could read , the thread by "CapturedNuance"
you (sjlocke) was mentioning persistently to "drive away competition "
rather than help the situation.

which sjlocke are you, btw? two faced or what  ??? ???

AVAVA

« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2008, 20:51 »
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OH Tuilay,

Thems fightin words. Yu better step up SJ and flex those muscles before this goes to far. ;D

Fireworks,,
AVAVA

Tuilay

« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2008, 21:11 »
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OH Tuilay,

Thems fightin words. Yu better step up SJ and flex those muscles before this goes to far. ;D

Fireworks,,
AVAVA

i'm not on IStock forum here, so i'm aiming to knock his teeth out for being such an arrogant sod  8)
AND NEITHER AM I CapturedNuance, so I am going to put this sob in his place, once and for all. ban me if it takes or not.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 21:19 by Tuilay »


 

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