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rubyroo

« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2013, 06:24 »
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I am a senior with a spouse with parkinson's and lewy body dementia. I have begun to upload select images again because I am a 24/7 caregiver and am hurting for income.

I'm so very sorry to hear this.  Do be sure to look after yourself too, if/when you can.


« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2013, 06:54 »
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So, what is our damage in percentages?

« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2013, 07:11 »
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i was referring to the few people that constantly whine just to hear their own voices. if they are so pissed off for years with IS and Getty then move on, make your life better. these same people whine over on istock too, and it's really getting boring. they must be miserable having to post almost daily about this crap. it you are not happy, then move on, make your life better. i for one am tired of your constant whining - it is not productive and is rather negative.

Why dont you go over to the istock forums to spread some positivity? I am sure they can use someone who thinks this announcement is great for exclusive artists.

If so many people love what is going on, why are they not cheering it??

Why dont they report stellar sales in the monthly threads?

ETA: I just saw a video contributor reporting a video sale for 1.50 on the Getty site. He is now trying to clarify if all videos will be part of 360 as well.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2013, 07:14 by cobalt »

« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2013, 07:24 »
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So, what is our damage in percentages?

pretty much indies are now going to have 15% royalties (instead of 20%) on credit sales from thinkstock, photos.com (and getty sales if we can have files there, don't know)

exclusives will go to 20% on getty sales etc (from 25 to 40%)

« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2013, 07:28 »
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Especially now that Shutterstock is also opening a high end collection

Where's the info about that Jasmine? I've missed it.


« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2013, 07:34 »
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My head is kind of still spinning.  Let me get this straight:

Newsletter:

To our exclusives: we love you and want to know what we can do improve our relationship

In the same newsletter:

To our exclusives: We cut your commission on Partner sales to 20%

Am I missing something here? Are they dyslexic?

« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2013, 07:58 »
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You were already making 20% on 'partner' sales.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2013, 08:02 »
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You were already making 20% on 'partner' sales.
But we could opt out before.
Glad their new spin doctor has fooled no-one, though.

« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2013, 09:20 »
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raising illustrator upload limit to 999/168  ;D (in their own words: lifting the limits)

HOW DESPERATE!

no more files for you istock..

indeed but can you explain me why? sure they (illustrations) must sell very well but why not photos or other?

because illustrations take more time to produce, it is not possible to submit 999 a week anyway.. with photos, it is possible to flood the queue..

in case some people already have 999 illustrations waiting on their hard-drives, they obviously want it now.. so, desperate.. :)

« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2013, 10:18 »
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in case some people already have 999 illustrations waiting on their hard-drives, they obviously want it now.. so, desperate.. :)

I joked about reigning down 17 weeks of terror on the queue, but I think it would be more stressful on me than them. I'm not even sure if I could get that many files uploaded there in a week.

lisafx

« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2013, 11:19 »
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I love how they opened the Contributor News email:

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One of our highest priorities for 2013 is making improvements for iStock Exclusives.

Translation:

Please, if anyone out there is still exclusive, stay. We'll try to stop screwing up. Or at least make it look like we're trying...

So true!  It seems these days that "stopping screwing" exclusives really amounts to nothing more than finding ways to screw non-exclusives harder. 

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2013, 11:26 »
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Each file bought from, or uploaded to, IS is a vote that their prices, commissions, terms... are acceptable. Period.

Yes, I wish I could afford to ditch them, but the income is still decent compared to most other stock sites. Shutterstock, however strong, won't make up for the loss of income.

« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2013, 12:54 »
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I stopped uploading onto IS several weeks ago. I will not upload to IS any longer.

« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2013, 13:37 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2013, 15:49 »
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Just thought this was interesting:

many people seem to think that their files will now be mirrored to gettyimages and will be offered for hundreds of dollars per file. Lobo just clarified that getty360 is not the gettyimages collection:

"No, we will not be providing access to Non-exclusives into the regular Getty Images collection. Non-exclusive content that is provided via iStockphoto will ONLY be available via the Getty 360 program. There are no avenues into the regular Getty Images site via iStock unless you are Exclusive."

Ive been reading many posts today where people think their files are going to getty itself and looking forward to huge payouts.

« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2013, 16:00 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2013, 16:12 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2013, 16:29 »
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A 20% sale for exclusives and 15% for independents. BUT AT WHAT PRICE? The prices on the getty website are list prices. Many, many customers pay fees that are lower than what I was getting as an exclusive on istock.

Today my report had sales that gave showed my royalty from a sale was 39 cents and 2.65  USD for example. But also one for 60 dollars. So there is a huge variation.

On istock my files are now being offered for 1-10 credits, so maybe around 1-10 dollars or a lot less, if the customer buys credits for 50 cents.

It is not very likely that getty360 will be offering my indie files for hundreds of dollars to these supercustomers who have probably been buying at huge discounts anyway.

It is perhaps similar to gettyconnect. they say we will receive our usual percentage, but we dont know from what price.

Maybe they will give us examples later.

But since getty360 is for high volume buyers, i would expect the prices to be comparable to Thinkstock or even lower. I mean all Thinkstock content is included anyway.

I think offering the customers an overview over everything that getty offers is a good idea for the customer IMO. I just dont think I will be making a lot of money from it.

And unlike the PP program, if you are exclusive, you cannot opt out from getty360.

Anyway, Lobo said the program is for a very small group of customers. But personally I would have preferred if these customers were buying from istock.

But since I am indie, getty360 doesnt worry me more than Thinkstock.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2013, 16:31 by cobalt »

« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2013, 16:35 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2013, 16:39 »
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As far as I can tell and from what has been said (read what I quoted above, standard Getty pricing) this is just offering all Istock content to a small amount of buyers at the normal prices.  Big buyers might get a discount but I don't know how much, I've said what my average RPD is at Getty so I would expect about the same from this.  Getty Connect is a totally different model and I don't think it has any similarity to this deal at all.

To come into this without the ability to comment on the actual pricing details is just asking for trouble.  Look, it's hidden behind a log in.  You'll never know what the prices are, how big the discounts are, or anything.  All you'll know is you got $2 for a sale. 

« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2013, 16:42 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:02 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2013, 16:48 »
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Do Getty contracts still say that contributors are entitled to one audit a year of all their transactions at Getty?  (Of course at the contributor's expense).   If so, this might be one way for somebody to find out the pricing once it is up and running. 

« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2013, 16:52 »
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As far as I can tell and from what has been said (read what I quoted above, standard Getty pricing) this is just offering all Istock content to a small amount of buyers at the normal prices.  Big buyers might get a discount but I don't know how much, I've said what my average RPD is at Getty so I would expect about the same from this.  Getty Connect is a totally different model and I don't think it has any similarity to this deal at all.

To come into this without the ability to comment on the actual pricing details is just asking for trouble.  Look, it's hidden behind a log in.  You'll never know what the prices are, how big the discounts are, or anything.  All you'll know is you got $2 for a sale.
That's how the mirroring of Vetta, Agency and E+ already is, isn't it?  I don't see any additional problems coming from this, please correct me if I'm wrong.  I have some $1 Getty sales and some $80 sales but the average is higher than Istock.

Well, you're wrong because we can go look at the pricing of those.  You can't see the pricing of 360.

« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2013, 16:56 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 15:01 by Audi 5000 »


 

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