Author Topic: Kelly Thompson Leaving Getty January 20th (Read 6882 times)

gbalex · « **Reply #75 on:** January 21, 2012, 15:34 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 21, 2012, 13:45

Quote from: gbalex on January 21, 2012, 13:24

Really doesn't it say more about the mindset of a large subset of microstock submitters. No wonder the sites feel they can rape and pillage at will. Needing to feel like you are part of a perceived special community is very different than actually belonging to a authentic dynamic community.

Perception is not reality, however successful business's always have dynamic people within it who are masters at manipulating perceptions.

What really bothers me about it is that so many people seem so eager to create a cult figure to look up to. That's not about JJRD or iStock in particular (it would be less disturbing if it were).

I completely agree, some have just transferred that cult status to other sites, in the mean time they are missing the fact that those sites have serious issues going on which need to be addressed by us collectively!

Freedom · « **Reply #76 on:** January 21, 2012, 15:53 »

Quote from: fotoVoyager on January 20, 2012, 12:19

Quote from: SNP on January 19, 2012, 15:46
I'd like to say that having met them both last year, JJ and Kelly are two of the nicest people I have met in my life. very sincere, to the point that it sometimes came across poorly when communicating to contributors. on a business note, this is a frightening day for exclusives in particular. on a personal note, I will miss them both and their involvement. even when I didn't agree with it, I knew they meant what they said.

Same here.

I understand the emotions of those who met and knew these two gentlemen and received their attentions.

However, do you understand how others who had never got any responses from them when voicing concerns, might feel? I have nothing against the two gentlemen. I just hope that the new management will not operate only in favor of the rumored inner circle.

RapidEye · « **Reply #77 on:** January 21, 2012, 18:57 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 21, 2012, 13:45

What really bothers me about it is that so many people seem so eager to create a cult figure to look up to. That's not about JJRD or iStock in particular (it would be less disturbing if it were).

One of my reservations about iStock from my beginnings in '06 was the never-ending Kool-Aid party. I had to rub my eyes in disbelief the first few times I read the forums. And the first cult figure was, of course, Bruce.

But it was all more comprehensible back then, because the company seemed pregnant with possibility -- even another Apple in the baking. Everyone's earnings were on the up and up, quality improved by the month, there was an established hardcore of mutual backslappers, and morale rose so high that some people went dilly.

The present cloud over iStock may have a silver lining -- the new level of Getty hegemony may finally get everyone behaving like grown-ups instead of excitable (and often gullible) children.

mattdixon · « **Reply #78 on:** January 21, 2012, 19:26 »

Quote from: RapidEye on January 21, 2012, 18:57

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 21, 2012, 13:45

What really bothers me about it is that so many people seem so eager to create a cult figure to look up to. That's not about JJRD or iStock in particular (it would be less disturbing if it were).

One of my reservations about iStock from my beginnings in '06 was the never-ending Kool-Aid party. I had to rub my eyes in disbelief the first few times I read the forums. And the first cult figure was, of course, Bruce.

But it was all more comprehensible back then, because the company seemed pregnant with possibility -- even another Apple in the baking. Everyone's earnings were on the up and up, quality improved by the month, there was an established hardcore of mutual backslappers, and morale rose so high that some people went dilly.

The present cloud over iStock may have a silver lining -- the new level of Getty hegemony may finally get everyone behaving like grown-ups instead of excitable (and often gullible) children.

It's not about the cult of anything, a drastic reshuffle has happened resulting in exclusives working for directly for Getty with very little remaining iStock leverage in slowing down any further royalty cuts. Not that it matters, once they finally drop the rates to 20%, we'll all be independents anyway.

Freedom · « **Reply #79 on:** January 21, 2012, 20:42 »

Frankly, if you were the owner of the company and bought another business, will you reorganize and even disassemble the old core especially if the loyalty remains with the old owner? The more the contributors express resentment to the new management, the more likely they are going to make old iStock disappear. It is naive to think Kelly or Joseph would lead a resistance against Getty. That's just common sense.

cmannphoto · « **Reply #80 on:** January 21, 2012, 21:22 »

Quote from: Freedom on January 21, 2012, 20:42

Frankly, if you were the owner of the company and bought another business, will you reorganize and even disassemble the old core especially if the loyalty remains with the old owner? The more the contributors express resentment to the new management, the more likely they are going to make old iStock disappear. It is naive to think Kelly or Joseph would lead a resistance against Getty. That's just common sense.

Yes there is some resistance to change but I think the bigger problem is a big lack of leadership that everyone is looking for, from whom ever is in charge of iStock.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #81 on:** January 21, 2012, 23:09 »

Quote from: gbalex on January 21, 2012, 15:34

What really bothers me about it is that so many people seem so eager to create a cult figure to look up to. That's not about JJRD or iStock in particular (it would be less disturbing if it were).

I completely agree, some have just transferred that cult status to other sites, in the mean time they are missing the fact that those sites have serious issues going on which need to be addressed by us collectively!
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Try thinking a bit beyond microstock - think about religion, politics, terrorism, and how the internet can be harnessed to secure and reinforce adoration of The Leader - and you might understand what I find disturbing.

mtilghma · « **Reply #82 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:09 »

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on January 20, 2012, 03:24

As I said, we know nothing about the actual situation. He might have put up a hell of fight, won some, lost some and probably fighting with one hand tied behind his back most of the time. We can't judge anyone, he probably had to navigate very difficult waters and I just think it is wrong to tarnish someone when we don't have the complete picture or when said someone can't freely talk/defend themselves. It is always very easy to put blame on someone.

You're right -- he was definitely in charge of navigating through some very treacherous waters, and I don't envy him that responsibility. He had to thread the needle through Scylla and Charybdis with reefs on all sides. However, in truth, we the contributors are one of those hazards. We are part of those perilous waters, and he did, or should have, known that. We can't just forgive him for all the other hazards he had to navigate... instead it is our duty to eat him alive for not minding us as much as the other hazards.

CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production · « **Reply #83 on:** January 22, 2012, 22:56 »

Quote from: mtilghma on January 22, 2012, 11:09

Quote from: CarlssonInc. Stock Imagery Production on January 20, 2012, 03:24

As I said, we know nothing about the actual situation. He might have put up a hell of fight, won some, lost some and probably fighting with one hand tied behind his back most of the time. We can't judge anyone, he probably had to navigate very difficult waters and I just think it is wrong to tarnish someone when we don't have the complete picture or when said someone can't freely talk/defend themselves. It is always very easy to put blame on someone.

You're right -- he was definitely in charge of navigating through some very treacherous waters, and I don't envy him that responsibility. He had to thread the needle through Scylla and Charybdis with reefs on all sides. However, in truth, we the contributors are one of those hazards. We are part of those perilous waters, and he did, or should have, known that. We can't just forgive him for all the other hazards he had to navigate... instead it is our duty to eat him alive for not minding us as much as the other hazards.

Never said anything about forgiveness and you missed the point, but that's alright.