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imageegami

« on: January 29, 2012, 15:32 »

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Not an exclusive photographer ? That`s the question indies are presented when they upload. Then when you click on it, the answer is "iStockphoto wants to be your exclusive online, royalty-free, stock media agent. We don't want to share you and we'll take very good care of you... "

It`s the we`ll take good care of you part I don`t understand.

- Reneging on promise to grandfather commissions
- Putting Edstock at front of search results
- many other points already covered ad nausium.

The one I really don`t get is now that:
- All indie material (Vast majority of iStock content) on Thinkstock
- Thinkstock significantly less expensive than iStock
- Customers will migrate to Thinkstock - or elsewhere - preferable elsewhere
How is this taking care of exclusives ?


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luissantos84

« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 15:35 »

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Quote from: imageegami on January 29, 2012, 15:32

How is this taking care of exclusives ?

exclusives??


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imageegami

« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 15:39 »

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Yes, how can any exclusive still believe that iStock has their best interest at heart ? Many must because they are exclusive. Would just need to have it explained to me.


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luissantos84

« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 15:50 »

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Quote from: imageegami on January 29, 2012, 15:39

Yes, how can any exclusive still believe that iStock has their best interest at heart ? Many must because they are exclusive. Would just need to have it explained to me.

and the other? there are many exclusives doing good, know a few myself


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imageegami

« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 15:57 »

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Yes there are many there are many exclusives doing good just as there are many indies that are doing good.

Topic is more, will exclusives keep doing good or are they doomed by Thinkstock migration.


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Equus

« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 15:58 »

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I don't believe anyone has my best interests at heart, except me! I'm still exclusive because all the information posted here by indies makes me believe I am still better off exclusive. I see you are now independent. Perhaps you will keep us posted on how you go, if it turns out you are better off financially, I may join you.


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aeonf

« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 17:35 »

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"Taking care of me" means that IS generates for ME a high revenue in $$$ for my stock portfolio. nothing more nothing less.
And yes, I am willing to bet that probably more then if I was not exclusive.


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Lagereek

« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 03:08 »

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Ludicrous! really. who cares? makes it sound like some stupid war between indies and exclusives. Personally I could NEVER make the same revenues, if I were exclusive, not in a million years, not with my port.
Second: its not all about the monies, is it? what about sustainabillity, trust, stabillity, etc, etc? I mean, IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business, nothing! and absoloutely nothing ever goes right there. The place nowdays seems to be run by a bunch of total diletants, walleys, that doesnt know their ellbow from their a..ss. So how can anybody in their right frame of mind put thousands of images their way? their entire search, best match, is a perfect mirror of the future. i.e. an agency for beginners and weekend snappers.


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aluxum

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 04:30 »

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$$. When this is no longer there I might switch to the "indie" troop.


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BaldricksTrousers

« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 04:36 »

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That message has been there for years, maybe seven years. They are not going to change it, are they?


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aeonf

« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 08:16 »

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lagereek: you may be right but the $$ blinds me

First month over 2,000$ for us.

When you make pocket money out of MS it doesnt realy matter if you are indy or not because you don't lose much if you make a wrong decision.
In our case its quite a lot of money (and rising!) so the risk is simply far to great.


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imageegami

« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 09:12 »

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Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

Ludicrous! really. who cares? makes it sound like some stupid war between indies and exclusives.

Not at all. I`m going to play the part of Lobo for a moment. The topic is whether or not Thinkstock is going to kill Exclusive`s future revenues (Now that all indie content is there). Point being, I don`t think its going to be sustainable to stay exclusive at some point in the future when enough customers move from iStock to Thinkstock.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 09:30 »

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Quote from: imageegami on January 30, 2012, 09:12

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

Valid point.
And/or if/when they decide for force Indies into TS.


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Equus

« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 12:28 »

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Quote from: imageegami on January 30, 2012, 09:12

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

I think you may be right about the future, but why give up money now? There's lots of things that could happen, think about what's been done with Edstock. Think about what else could be done along the same lines. That would also be a big threat to exclusive income.
What if Getty reduce prices on TS and undercut SS significantly? What if SS then has to reduce commissions?
None of us know what will happen, so my policy is to take the best money in the short term, and do what's necessary when the time is right.


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cthoman

« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 12:48 »

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Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink


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WarrenPrice

« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 12:53 »

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Quote from: cthoman on January 30, 2012, 12:48

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink

Yep. That gets a plus one. Cool


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disorderly

« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 13:05 »

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Quote from: WarrenPrice on January 30, 2012, 12:53

Quote from: cthoman on January 30, 2012, 12:48

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink

Yep. That gets a plus one. Cool

To be fair, iStock claimed to be a community-based, supportive agent for our work and then betrayed us all. Fotolia never portrayed themselves as anything but greedy mean-spirited *insult removed*. I'd have to flip a coin to decide which is worse.

(@Insult removed? For saying b*stard? Might be literally true for all I know.)


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Lagereek

« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 13:36 »

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Quote from: cthoman on January 30, 2012, 12:48

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink

FT, is selling better then ever for me, got no complaints there.


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Equus

« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 13:43 »

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To be fair, iStock claimed to be a community-based, supportive agent for our work and then betrayed us all. Fotolia never portrayed themselves as anything but greedy mean-spirited *insult removed*. I'd have to flip a coin to decide which is worse.

(@Insult removed? For saying b*stard? Might be literally true for all I know.)
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I think they did, in the early days of Chad the Charmer


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cthoman

« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 13:53 »

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Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 13:36

FT, is selling better then ever for me, got no complaints there.

Just wait a couple months. It's almost that time of year when they cut royalties. Grin


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disorderly

« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 13:57 »

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Quote from: Equus on January 30, 2012, 13:43

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I think they did, in the early days of Chad the Charmer

Good point. But that didn't last all that long. And they needed a friendly face at the start. Remember the three page long submission interface?


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lisafx

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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 16:07 »

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Quote from: cthoman on January 30, 2012, 12:48

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink

My sales have dropped at Fotolia, definitely, but AFAIK they have not suffered any problems with site instability in years. Istock holds the undisputed title of most unstable micro site IMO.


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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 17:21 »

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Quote from: lisafx on January 30, 2012, 16:07

Istock holds the undisputed title of most unstable micro site IMO.

I'm willing to upgrade that to the most unstable site, period. I'm not aware of any site on the entire internet that goes down as often as iStock.


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Lagereek

« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 17:35 »

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Quote from: lisafx on January 30, 2012, 16:07

Quote from: cthoman on January 30, 2012, 12:48

Quote from: lagereek on January 30, 2012, 03:08

...IS, at the moment is the most unstable and untrustworthy place in the stock-business...

I guess you've never been to Fotolia. Wink

My sales have dropped at Fotolia, definitely, but AFAIK they have not suffered any problems with site instability in years. Istock holds the undisputed title of most unstable micro site IMO.

Thats exactly why I cant for the life of me understand how one possibly could even contemplate going exclusive with a site thats more offline then on. Its not the money its the unstabillity of it all.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 11:02 »

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Quote from: KB on January 30, 2012, 17:21

Quote from: lisafx on January 30, 2012, 16:07

Istock holds the undisputed title of most unstable micro site IMO.

I'm willing to upgrade that to the most unstable site, period. I'm not aware of any site on the entire internet that goes down as often as iStock.

White pages and a 503 error right now.
Angry


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