Author Topic: Partner Program-Observations/sales/concerns ! (Read 10615 times)

jamirae · « **Reply #25 on:** July 11, 2011, 11:18 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 01:03

Quote from: Slovenian on July 10, 2011, 15:16

BTW PP program is pathetic, I've opted all in and there are only about a third on the PP sites, none have moved in months. Earnings are down as well, so I'm thinking of opting all out, but it won't work anyway, so why even bother...
You have to be a little bit more patient.Files do get migrated and Thinkstock will become the internets premier subsription site in the coming years IMO.
I joined the PP from the start when my nose was still the same color as my arse

hahahahahaha!! funniest thing I've heard in awhile!!

jamirae · « **Reply #26 on:** July 11, 2011, 11:18 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 11, 2011, 02:01

Thinkstock the internets premier subs site? That would be about as good for us as Sarah Palin becoming the next president

don't even say that! you're scaring the children!

Shank_ali · « **Reply #27 on:** July 11, 2011, 12:26 »

Quote from: qwerty on July 11, 2011, 02:42

trolling up a storm again. Why don't you start a thread about how good the RC system is, [snip]

That's next week !....Let's stick to one interesting thread a week.The PP will grow and so will the money payed to those contributors who have opted in.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #28 on:** July 11, 2011, 12:30 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:26

Quote from: qwerty on July 11, 2011, 02:42
trolling up a storm again. Why don't you start a thread about how good the RC system is, [snip]

That's next week !....Let's stick to one interesting thread a week.The PP will grow and so will the money payed to those contributors who have opted in.

So why were your last comments there about your earnings collapsing?

Slovenian · « **Reply #29 on:** July 11, 2011, 12:33 »

Quote from: jamirae on July 11, 2011, 11:18

Quote from: sharpshot on July 11, 2011, 02:01
Thinkstock the internets premier subs site? That would be about as good for us as Sarah Palin becoming the next president

don't even say that! you're scaring the children!

All she was good for is for inspiring screenplay writers/producers in the adult fim industry

Shank_ali · « **Reply #30 on:** July 11, 2011, 12:39 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 11, 2011, 12:30

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:26
Quote from: qwerty on July 11, 2011, 02:42
trolling up a storm again. Why don't you start a thread about how good the RC system is, [snip]

That's next week !....Let's stick to one interesting thread a week.The PP will grow and so will the money payed to those contributors who have opted in.

So why were your last comments there about your earnings collapsing?
I don't quite follow? I never got chance to post my June PP stats which a marked improvement over May 100+.I'm looking for 500 PP sales a month.I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !

ShadySue · « **Reply #31 on:** July 11, 2011, 14:02 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:39

I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !

If you'd saved your £1000, you could have a mini-herd of dairy cows and sell the milk: that way you'd be quids in.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #32 on:** July 11, 2011, 14:39 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 11, 2011, 14:02

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:39
I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !
If you'd saved your £1000, you could have a mini-herd of dairy cows and sell the milk: that way you'd be quids in.

He wouldn't get a very good herd at that price.

jsnover · « **Reply #33 on:** July 11, 2011, 15:15 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 11, 2011, 14:39

Quote from: ShadySue on July 11, 2011, 14:02
Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:39
I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !
If you'd saved your £1000, you could have a mini-herd of dairy cows and sell the milk: that way you'd be quids in.

He wouldn't get a very good herd at that price.

Goats, perhaps?

Shank_ali · « **Reply #34 on:** July 11, 2011, 16:28 »

Hopely June payments will start to get added to our accounts this weekend.Hoping !

qwerty · « **Reply #35 on:** July 11, 2011, 17:13 »

Quote from: jsnover on July 11, 2011, 15:15

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 11, 2011, 14:39
Quote from: ShadySue on July 11, 2011, 14:02
Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:39
I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !
If you'd saved your £1000, you could have a mini-herd of dairy cows and sell the milk: that way you'd be quids in.

He wouldn't get a very good herd at that price.

Rats are cheaper

Goats, perhaps?

Shank_ali · « **Reply #36 on:** July 16, 2011, 01:24 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 16:28

Hopely June payments will start to get added to our accounts this weekend.Hoping !

Just been confirmed by adam .They will be completed next weekend...Hopely i can beat 434 sales from last month or match it !

Shank_ali · « **Reply #37 on:** July 16, 2011, 04:27 »

Someone forgot to turn on the PP switch before leaving HQ on friday.Pfffff.Come monday it will be some lame excuse... sowwwy it's the internet and things break !

gclk · « **Reply #38 on:** July 16, 2011, 04:37 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:39

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 11, 2011, 12:30
Quote from: shank_ali on July 11, 2011, 12:26
Quote from: qwerty on July 11, 2011, 02:42
trolling up a storm again. Why don't you start a thread about how good the RC system is, [snip]
That's next week !....Let's stick to one interesting thread a week.The PP will grow and so will the money payed to those contributors who have opted in.
So why were your last comments there about your earnings collapsing?
I don't quite follow? I never got chance to post my June PP stats which a marked improvement over May 100+.I'm looking for 500 PP sales a month.I want to buy a dairy cow for the back garden.Fresh milk on my cornflakes ever morning would be bliss !

You might come home one day and find that iStock are milking it

Mantis · « **Reply #39 on:** July 16, 2011, 07:15 »

Quote from: SNP on July 10, 2011, 23:21

^ I guess I assumed from Slovenian's prolific posting in excellent English that he/she would have heard the term before....

Maybe if they had Geico commercials there $:-\$

Slovenian · « **Reply #40 on:** July 16, 2011, 12:21 »

Quote from: shank_ali on July 16, 2011, 04:27

Someone forgot to turn on the PP switch before leaving HQ on friday.Pfffff.Come monday it will be some lame excuse... sowwwy it's the internet and things break !

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to IS. In fact I'd be surprised if it happened on time.

But I'm not bothered with it anymore. It's a pathetic agency, delivering worse results (for me and the majority of contributors) every month.

ShadySue · « **Reply #41 on:** July 16, 2011, 13:42 »

Quote from: Slovenian on July 16, 2011, 12:21

Quote from: shank_ali on July 16, 2011, 04:27
Someone forgot to turn on the PP switch before leaving HQ on friday.Pfffff.Come monday it will be some lame excuse... sowwwy it's the internet and things break !

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to IS. In fact I'd be surprised if it happened on time.

But I'm not bothered with it anymore. It's a pathetic agency, delivering worse results (for me and the majority of contributors) every month.

How do you have access to information about the 'majority of contributors'?
There are only a tiny proportion of contributors, many with a 'good' or 'bad' axe to grind, posting either here or on the iStock forums. We can hardly regard either as fully representative.
(I'm not saying that you're wrong, only that you can't possibly know that you're right.)

Slovenian · « **Reply #42 on:** July 16, 2011, 14:59 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 16, 2011, 13:42

Quote from: Slovenian on July 16, 2011, 12:21
Quote from: shank_ali on July 16, 2011, 04:27
Someone forgot to turn on the PP switch before leaving HQ on friday.Pfffff.Come monday it will be some lame excuse... sowwwy it's the internet and things break !

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to IS. In fact I'd be surprised if it happened on time.

But I'm not bothered with it anymore. It's a pathetic agency, delivering worse results (for me and the majority of contributors) every month.
How do you have access to information about the 'majority of contributors'?
There are only a tiny proportion of contributors, many with a 'good' or 'bad' axe to grind, posting either here or on the iStock forums. We can hardly regard either as fully representative.
(I'm not saying that you're wrong, only that you can't possibly know that you're right.)

That's how polls are made, aren't they? They ask a few hundred/thousand ppl for which party they're going to vote and present the results. Or even a better example they're doing that on the election day throughout the day and when they're over (at 19.00 in my country) they present the results on the news and they're never far off from the official results. They're usually just a few percents off, e.g. a party gets a seat more or less in the parliament. So my method must be very good and proven as well

pancaketom · « **Reply #43 on:** July 16, 2011, 16:31 »

Quote from: Slovenian on July 16, 2011, 14:59

That's how polls are made, aren't they? They ask a few hundred/thousand ppl for which party they're going to vote and present the results. Or even a better example they're doing that on the election day throughout the day and when they're over (at 19.00 in my country) they present the results on the news and they're never far off from the official results. They're usually just a few percents off, e.g. a party gets a seat more or less in the parliament. So my method must be very good and proven as well

In a decent poll they are very careful about those that they select for the poll. There is significant bias in self selected polls in that the people that tend to respond care very strongly or have an agenda or are just those with more time on their hands and they aren't necessarily representative of the whole. If IS hadn't blurred their sales stats then looking at total sales on istockcharts.multimedia.de would have provided an interesting month to month comparison at least of the sales # if not the $ #. (In fact that might have been why they did that).

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2011, 16:47 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 16, 2011, 13:42

How do you have access to information about the 'majority of contributors'?
There are only a tiny proportion of contributors, many with a 'good' or 'bad' axe to grind, posting either here or on the iStock forums. We can hardly regard either as fully representative.
(I'm not saying that you're wrong, only that you can't possibly know that you're right.)

Actually, that information is available to someone who has the technical skills to analyse snapshots of the istock chart. I don't and I'm not sufficiently interested in what everyone else does to want to.

While the anecdotal evidence kicking around here and on iStock itself is not conclusive, it is strongly suggestive of long-term decline. So are the internet statistics and so are the reports of improvements in rival sites.

When Lobo hit back at a similar comment on the end-of-month thread, saying lots of people in the first few pages were reporting BMEs, it was interesting that on examination those pages turned out to offer a very mixed bag of results, nowhere near the positive picture Lobo was suggesting even if they weren't the unmitigated gloom the poster suggested.

ShadySue · « **Reply #45 on:** July 16, 2011, 19:00 »

Quote from: Slovenian on July 16, 2011, 14:59

Quote from: ShadySue on July 16, 2011, 13:42
Quote from: Slovenian on July 16, 2011, 12:21
Quote from: shank_ali on July 16, 2011, 04:27
Someone forgot to turn on the PP switch before leaving HQ on friday.Pfffff.Come monday it will be some lame excuse... sowwwy it's the internet and things break !

Nothing really surprises me anymore when it comes to IS. In fact I'd be surprised if it happened on time.

But I'm not bothered with it anymore. It's a pathetic agency, delivering worse results (for me and the majority of contributors) every month.
How do you have access to information about the 'majority of contributors'?
There are only a tiny proportion of contributors, many with a 'good' or 'bad' axe to grind, posting either here or on the iStock forums. We can hardly regard either as fully representative.
(I'm not saying that you're wrong, only that you can't possibly know that you're right.)

That's how polls are made, aren't they? They ask a few hundred/thousand ppl for which party they're going to vote and present the results. Or even a better example they're doing that on the election day throughout the day and when they're over (at 19.00 in my country) they present the results on the news and they're never far off from the official results. They're usually just a few percents off, e.g. a party gets a seat more or less in the parliament. So my method must be very good and proven as well

In this case, there's an extra factor.
If most people are posting good/rising sales, others may not want to post poor results as they might feel it would be seen as a bad reflection on them/their port.
If most people are posting poor/fallng sales, others may not want to post good results in case they're seen as boasting.

SNP · « **Reply #46 on:** July 16, 2011, 19:05 »

^ I think that is a valid observation and probably happens quite a bit.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #47 on:** July 16, 2011, 19:09 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 16, 2011, 19:00

In this case, there's an extra factor.
If most people are posting good/rising sales, others may not want to post poor results as they might feel it would be seen as a bad reflection on them/their port.
If most people are posting poor/fallng sales, others may not want to post good results in case they're seen as boasting.

My guess (!) would be that this would be a very weak effect. How many of us really care deeply how others react to our sales data posts?

Also, the internet visitor stats are immune from that.

There is some confusion arising from the PP, though. Should that be treated as part of istock earnings or as a separate agency? I'm inclined to regard it as separate, since SS and BS are reported separately. But Canstock includes partner sales in its regular reports...

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #48 on:** July 16, 2011, 19:10 »

Quote from: SNP on July 16, 2011, 19:05

^ I think that is a valid observation and probably happens quite a bit.

If so, it is a sad reflection on the herd behaviour of photographers.

SNP · « **Reply #49 on:** July 16, 2011, 19:33 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 16, 2011, 19:10

Quote from: SNP on July 16, 2011, 19:05
^ I think that is a valid observation and probably happens quite a bit.

If so, it is a sad reflection on the herd behaviour of photographers.

I don't think people always remember they're photographers in the iStock forums or any forums for that matter. forums thrive on reactive behaviour, so I think Sue's point is a good one. I hadn't thought of it myself, but now that it's been pointed out I can see some contributors not posting for fear of how it would affect their image. I think you might be underestimating how many contributors are intimidated by the forums.