Author Topic: PP Sales July 2013 (Read 13935 times)

estike · « **on:** August 16, 2013, 03:52 »

PP Sales started. Just got one for 3th July (Photos.com)

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2013, 04:56 »

Got some for 1st to 5th

Red Dove · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2013, 10:06 »

Given the GIGANTIC dung heap IS made of paying our PP earnings last month I'm.....Oh forget it.

fotografer · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:45 »

Mine are showing from the 1st through to the 13th.

lisafx · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2013, 15:38 »

I've got half of July showing. Very nice bump in earnings, and a surprise since it took so long last time.

gillian vann · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2013, 16:40 »

wow, that was fast, it's early am saturday here in Australia and I wasn't expecting to see PP (if at all this w/end) until tonight. I've got to the 16th.

w7lwi · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2013, 17:21 »

I'm still struggling with identifying my PP downloads on IS. I've found the list of PP sales OK, but I don't see where I can tell when they were downloaded. Was it July, June, May or whenever?

And the pricing seems a bit odd as well. For example, I show 14 images that have each been downloaded three times. But the royalty amounts vary from image to image. There's one image with a total royalty of $0.78 for three downloads. Another ten at $0.84 for three each. One at $1.10 for three downloads. One at $1.76 for three. And one at $24.58 for three downloads of one image. I assume the $0.84 is the "norm" as that's $0.28 per image, but what accounts for the wide variations on the others?

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2013, 17:47 »

Quote from: w7lwi on August 16, 2013, 17:21

I'm still struggling with identifying my PP downloads on IS. I've found the list of PP sales OK, but I don't see where I can tell when they were downloaded. Was it July, June, May or whenever?

And the pricing seems a bit odd as well. For example, I show 14 images that have each been downloaded three times. But the royalty amounts vary from image to image. There's one image with a total royalty of $0.78 for three downloads. Another ten at $0.84 for three each. One at $1.10 for three downloads. One at $1.76 for three. And one at $24.58 for three downloads of one image. I assume the $0.84 is the "norm" as that's $0.28 per image, but what accounts for the wide variations on the others?

I think we are seeing results from both Thinkstock and Photos.com. Sales are reported by day but not separated by site. TS images are 28 cents. Photos.com vary by size and credit package ...
I think?

If you can get more detailed, please let us know.

Nepal · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2013, 08:17 »

BME for PP!! Also got 2 downloads of $3.96 each.

That is more than what IS would pay for XXXLarge download now. If only the entire portfolio made it to PP.

fritz · « **Reply #9 on:** August 17, 2013, 09:14 »

PP sales BME! More $$$ than FT, DT ,DP, P5 and CAN together.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2013, 09:59 »

Quote from: Nepal on August 17, 2013, 08:17

BME for PP!! Also got 2 downloads of $3.96 each. That is more than what IS would pay for XXXLarge download now. If only the entire portfolio made it to PP.

I think it is happening ... at least for independents. I don't know how images are selected but a few of each new uploaded batch is being transferred to TS. And, I just noticed a batch transferred from an upload from over a year ago.

Must be "a work in progress."

ed: BTW - the same images were also transferred to Photos.com.

tab62 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2013, 10:32 »

"PP sales BME! More $$$ than FT, DT ,DP, P5 and CAN together."

At least in my case that doesn't really say a lot

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2013, 11:43 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 17, 2013, 09:59

Quote from: Nepal on August 17, 2013, 08:17
BME for PP!! Also got 2 downloads of $3.96 each. That is more than what IS would pay for XXXLarge download now. If only the entire portfolio made it to PP.

I think it is happening ... at least for independents. I don't know how images are selected but a few of each new uploaded batch is being transferred to TS. And, I just noticed a batch transferred from an upload from over a year ago.

Must be "a work in progress."

ed: BTW - the same images were also transferred to Photos.com.

A very slow work in progress. I've got 17 of 515 files transferred and was getting about one per week moved over until recently when that stopped completely. Considering I'm averaging about 3 DL's per PP image per month it would be nice to see those missing files mirrored over.....would help make up for the pathetic sales on iStock.
In reading the forums it seems as though new files are making it over fairly quickly....may start deleting my older images and reuploading them.....kind of pathetic to have to rely on the PP at 28 cents per DL to make any kind of $ on iStock these days particularly with the price slashing of Main Collection files.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2013, 12:18 »

Quote from: mlwinphoto on August 17, 2013, 11:43

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 17, 2013, 09:59
Quote from: Nepal on August 17, 2013, 08:17
BME for PP!! Also got 2 downloads of $3.96 each. That is more than what IS would pay for XXXLarge download now. If only the entire portfolio made it to PP.

I think it is happening ... at least for independents. I don't know how images are selected but a few of each new uploaded batch is being transferred to TS. And, I just noticed a batch transferred from an upload from over a year ago.

Must be "a work in progress."

ed: BTW - the same images were also transferred to Photos.com.

A very slow work in progress. I've got 17 of 515 files transferred and was getting about one per week moved over until recently when that stopped completely. Considering I'm averaging about 3 DL's per PP image per month it would be nice to see those missing files mirrored over.....would help make up for the pathetic sales on iStock.
In reading the forums it seems as though new files are making it over fairly quickly....may start deleting my older images and reuploading them.....kind of pathetic to have to rely on the PP at 28 cents per DL to make any kind of $ on iStock these days particularly with the price slashing of Main Collection files.

We should be fair. PP also includes Photos.com, where downloads are often much more than 28 cents.
If we're counting EL, ODD and SOD at Shutterstock, shouldn't we count the Photos.com files as PP Sales?

I agree that the "work in progress" seems slow. It is difficult to understand just what is happening. May be some conflict in transferring ... independent files, Exclusive who Choose PP and skipping the Exclusive with "don't PP me" files.

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2013, 14:35 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 17, 2013, 12:18

Quote from: mlwinphoto on August 17, 2013, 11:43
Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 17, 2013, 09:59
Quote from: Nepal on August 17, 2013, 08:17
BME for PP!! Also got 2 downloads of $3.96 each. That is more than what IS would pay for XXXLarge download now. If only the entire portfolio made it to PP.

I think it is happening ... at least for independents. I don't know how images are selected but a few of each new uploaded batch is being transferred to TS. And, I just noticed a batch transferred from an upload from over a year ago.

Must be "a work in progress."

ed: BTW - the same images were also transferred to Photos.com.

A very slow work in progress. I've got 17 of 515 files transferred and was getting about one per week moved over until recently when that stopped completely. Considering I'm averaging about 3 DL's per PP image per month it would be nice to see those missing files mirrored over.....would help make up for the pathetic sales on iStock.
In reading the forums it seems as though new files are making it over fairly quickly....may start deleting my older images and reuploading them.....kind of pathetic to have to rely on the PP at 28 cents per DL to make any kind of $ on iStock these days particularly with the price slashing of Main Collection files.

We should be fair. PP also includes Photos.com, where downloads are often much more than 28 cents.
If we're counting EL, ODD and SOD at Shutterstock, shouldn't we count the Photos.com files as PP Sales?

I agree that the "work in progress" seems slow. It is difficult to understand just what is happening. May be some conflict in transferring ... independent files, Exclusive who Choose PP and skipping the Exclusive with "don't PP me" files.

You're right, we should be fair. I did have one DL for 36 cents, the rest were for 28 cents.

The slow transfer has been going on for months. They blame it on some sort of connector problem; not so sure about that.....and, if that is the case, correcting it must be pretty low on their list of priorities....or, maybe they don't know how to correct it.

ShadySue · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2013, 15:19 »

Quote from: mlwinphoto on August 17, 2013, 14:35

They blame it on some sort of connector problem; not so sure about that.....and, if that is the case, correcting it must be pretty low on their list of priorities....or, maybe they don't know how to correct it.

Probably both.
Don't feel bad: it's the same for exclusive material going to Getty. Getty stuff lands in iS with boring regularity, but it's apparently a 'different connector'. It has been suggested that they should use the same connector to get our stuff up there, but that's far too obvious.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2013, 11:21 »

Something may have been fixed? I'm getting daily updates at both Photos.com and TS. It must be the "Mirror Effect" that I keep hearing about?

Also, no EL licenses reported in latest PP report but did have several for over $2.
Maybe the increase in port size will equate to increase in larger sales? $:-\$

tab62 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2013, 12:31 »

My PP was a BME for me

bare in mind only been on iStock since Jan this year thus I hope to continue the BME for a few more times...

fritz · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2013, 14:32 »

PP BME up 40%.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2013, 15:02 »

Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32

PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?

joyfnp · « **Reply #20 on:** August 18, 2013, 21:11 »

I couldn't believe it, but I went from ~$69 in the "bank" at IS to $95 overnight thanks to PP sales...Now if I had an easy way to discover which files were selling like this. It is so cumbersome to try to figure out which of your files just sold.
As to getting your images in the PP, I opted all the way in and now everything goes there except editorial.

Joy

fritz · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2013, 05:42 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02

Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?

Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2013, 06:29 »

Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 05:42

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02
Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?
Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

2k ain't much? contributors keep on feeding them, I should have never stopped, for real...

fritz · « **Reply #23 on:** August 19, 2013, 06:42 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 19, 2013, 06:29

Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 05:42
Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02
Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?
Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

2k ain't much? contributors keep on feeding them, I should have never stopped, for real...

I know, I know, I'm stupid, brainless and greedy supporting IS but hey that's me

. But do you really believe that grass is greener on the other side. I don't think so.
Cheers,

luissantos84 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 19, 2013, 06:51 »

Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 06:42

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 19, 2013, 06:29
Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 05:42
Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02
Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?
Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

2k ain't much? contributors keep on feeding them, I should have never stopped, for real...
I know, I know, I'm stupid, brainless and greedy supporting IS but hey that's me . But do you really believe that grass is greener on the other side. I don't think so.
Cheers,

its the opposite mate, I should have never stopped, always time to start again

panicAttack · « **Reply #25 on:** August 19, 2013, 07:32 »

Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 05:42

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02
Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?
Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

Where can I see how many of my files are on PP sites, I am non-exlusive.

Thanks!

DonLand · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2013, 07:42 »

In a followup to yesterdays thinking there might be a reporting glitch In the end I think it was as others have said and just the ebb and flow of selling stock.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2013, 10:05 »

Quote from: DonLand on August 19, 2013, 07:42

In a followup to yesterdays thinking there might be a reporting glitch In the end I think it was as others have said and just the ebb and flow of selling stock.

Don,
Just wanted to say that I never used the word "glitch" and never intended to indicate such. I think there is a problem ... more related to growing pains than "bugs" or "glitches."

May be a sync problem? I'm wondering (or wandering

) if there is not more than one server to handle the load of so many images being added daily. That could create a sync problem and cause some reporting delays.

Again, not saying there is a "glitch." Just speculating on the seeming delay in reporting.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2013, 11:47 »

Quote from: fritz on August 19, 2013, 05:42

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 18, 2013, 15:02
Quote from: fritz on August 18, 2013, 14:32
PP BME up 40%.

do you have many files uploaded this year?
Not many, around 2K but only 40% are on PP sites.

actually you have uploaded 3312 files in 2013 (59.4% of your portfolio)

DonLand · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19, 2013, 13:17 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 19, 2013, 10:05

Quote from: DonLand on August 19, 2013, 07:42
In a followup to yesterdays thinking there might be a reporting glitch In the end I think it was as others have said and just the ebb and flow of selling stock.

Don,
Just wanted to say that I never used the word "glitch" and never intended to indicate such. I think there is a problem ... more related to growing pains than "bugs" or "glitches."

May be a sync problem? I'm wondering (or wandering ) if there is not more than one server to handle the load of so many images being added daily. That could create a sync problem and cause some reporting delays.

Again, not saying there is a "glitch." Just speculating on the seeming delay in reporting.

Never said you did... it was more like what I said, but now I doubt there was anything wrong, just the ebb and flow of selling images on SS.

tickstock · « **Reply #30 on:** August 19, 2013, 15:29 »

Silken Photography · « **Reply #31 on:** August 19, 2013, 20:47 »

Livestock is great for PP, shows you what, where, when and how much for each PP download.

panicAttack · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2013, 02:11 »

Quote from: Silken Photography on August 19, 2013, 20:47

Livestock is great for PP, shows you what, where, when and how much for each PP download.

I have downloaded LiveStock and it is great tool, I see all those stats, but where can I check percentage of my files on PP?

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2013, 08:48 »

Go to "Thinkstock.com" and search on your name -- first name - last name -- in in single quotes;
'firstname lastname'
You can see the count of your images. Not sure if that is what you mean?

As an aside, there seems to be an active effort to transfer all files -- both old files and new.
I've had over 50 transferred in last two days.

panicAttack · « **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:05 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 20, 2013, 08:48

Go to "Thinkstock.com" and search on your name -- first name - last name -- in in single quotes;
'firstname lastname'
You can see the count of your images. Not sure if that is what you mean?

As an aside, there seems to be an active effort to transfer all files -- both old files and new.
I've had over 50 transferred in last two days.

that's it, thanks!

sobm · « **Reply #35 on:** August 21, 2013, 01:36 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on August 20, 2013, 08:48

Go to "Thinkstock.com" and search on your name -- first name - last name -- in in single quotes;
'firstname lastname'
You can see the count of your images. Not sure if that is what you mean?

As an aside, there seems to be an active effort to transfer all files -- both old files and new.
I've had over 50 transferred in last two days.

why i only saw a small part of my files into TS?apparently, IS didnt transfer all my files into TS

Yure · « **Reply #36 on:** August 21, 2013, 02:20 »

No, they transfer only a percentage.

I'm a new contributor at IS and have uploaded my small portfolio sending batches of 10 per day, more or less. I noticed that when a batch of images is accepted, some images are immediately transferred to TS and Photos.com, the same images at the same time. Other images, no.
About 40% of my IS port is in the PP.

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