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« Reply #250 on: October 19, 2011, 07:36 »
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Yes the saying is "don't bite the hand that feeds you" which doesn't apply since contributors actually feed the hand in this case.  Sales are not going well at IS and the top 20 exclusives are noticing and reporting concerns which is my point.  Which further puts the comment at odds with a normal response.   


« Reply #251 on: October 19, 2011, 09:32 »
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Yes the saying is "don't bite the hand that feeds you" which doesn't apply since contributors actually feed the hand in this case.  Sales are not going well at IS and the top 20 exclusives are noticing and reporting concerns which is my point.  Which further puts the comment at odds with a normal response.   
How ironic when you also consider how they treated contributors that were also buyers!

« Reply #252 on: October 19, 2011, 09:33 »
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exactly....

we are feeding them a huge percentage of each one of our sales. They shouldn't be biting our hands like this....

and, to mix metaphors, they have smashed a hole in the hull and are ignoring this ship while it sinks.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2011, 10:30 by aethelflaed »

« Reply #253 on: October 19, 2011, 11:09 »
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Back to the OP. How are people's sales going in October? Mine are still well into the doldrums: fewer sales than June - Sept and most sales at smaller sizes. My fist half of October was worse than half the $$ of any other month this year, yet traditionally Oct and Nov should be good months. (Actually, last year my October sales dipped after Sept, but this year is even worse.)

So far this month is going very well - for me my figures are already above June's totals. It looks like the weighting has shifted a lot more to newer files, so no doubt many of those with a large percentage of older files are going to be impacted. I think there has been a bit of a return to Vetta and agency as well in the last week or so.

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #254 on: October 19, 2011, 11:44 »
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^ same for me

« Reply #255 on: October 19, 2011, 13:34 »
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For me, whenever they are updating TS sales, my regular DLs will slow down.

Does anyone see this trend?

It was reasonably good for Monday and Tuesday, but today it doesn't look promising.

Slovenian

« Reply #256 on: October 19, 2011, 13:40 »
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For me, whenever they are updating TS sales, my regular DLs will slow down.

Does anyone see this trend?

It was reasonably good for Monday and Tuesday, but today it doesn't look promising.

It's been sheaty all week in my case, not that bad DL wise, but size wise, earnings just half of the usual.

traveler1116

« Reply #257 on: October 19, 2011, 15:16 »
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Back to the OP. How are people's sales going in October? Mine are still well into the doldrums: fewer sales than June - Sept and most sales at smaller sizes. My fist half of October was worse than half the $$ of any other month this year, yet traditionally Oct and Nov should be good months. (Actually, last year my October sales dipped after Sept, but this year is even worse.)

So far this month is going very well - for me my figures are already above June's totals. It looks like the weighting has shifted a lot more to newer files, so no doubt many of those with a large percentage of older files are going to be impacted. I think there has been a bit of a return to Vetta and agency as well in the last week or so.

Wow that's pretty good I'm just over half as many sales as June.  I wouldn't say sales are bad but they could be better, especially for this time of year.  I took a break from uploading for a little while but hopefully I'll get between 500-1000 up before the end of the year.  Oh yeah try to stay dry, you're in Thailand still right?

« Reply #258 on: October 19, 2011, 15:47 »
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Down 100% from every other month ever.  ;D

« Reply #259 on: October 20, 2011, 03:40 »
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It was reasonably good for Monday and Tuesday, but today it doesn't look promising.
I will second this part. Monday and Tuesday were very nice. And Wednesday was crap where I got only downloads from older files. This makes me think of a new best match change. It's slow at the moment.

« Reply #260 on: October 20, 2011, 03:55 »
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Wow that's pretty good I'm just over half as many sales as June.  I wouldn't say sales are bad but they could be better, especially for this time of year.  I took a break from uploading for a little while but hopefully I'll get between 500-1000 up before the end of the year.  Oh yeah try to stay dry, you're in Thailand still right?

In Cambodia - going to spend about a week shooting at Angkor - its very wet here, but it should make for some interesting shots.

« Reply #261 on: October 20, 2011, 05:19 »
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Down 100% from every other month ever.  ;D

Ditto.   :)

Phadrea

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« Reply #262 on: October 20, 2011, 13:56 »
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Something has happened as my sales have slumped again. They have been quite reasonable the last couple of weeks. :'(

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #263 on: October 20, 2011, 14:23 »
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Something has happened as my sales have slumped again. They have been quite reasonable the last couple of weeks. :'(
Two (2) dls today. There's only so much lower it can go.  :'(

RacePhoto

« Reply #264 on: October 20, 2011, 14:30 »
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Down 100% from every other month ever.  ;D


Ditto.   :)


Yes, even my creepy little sales that were consistent for a few years have dropped. I find it funny when people complain about morning vs night, or Monday vs Tuesday. I look at month to month and don't sit all day, every day searching for my own images to see where they are. (a watched pot never boils?) With that said, bottom line...

The Earth is flat and iStock has fallen off the edge.

Nearly nothing but ThinkStock subs for the last three months and now those are dropping.

I admit I was in denial, I thought it was just the Summer or some small dip, and IS would be coming back. No more, I see the light. It's Over!  Done! Not coming back... Gone.

Want to know how bad it is? BS beat IS for me last month. StockXpert/ThinkStock sales beat all of IS for me last month. What's the use?

« Reply #265 on: October 20, 2011, 15:09 »
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BS still doesn't make 10% of what I get from iStock. Either you are doing really well at BS or incredibly badly at IS

« Reply #266 on: October 20, 2011, 15:24 »
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Istock has gone from fantastic no one comes close.... to poor, then to embarrassingly bad for me

I keep on saying it cant get worse, and I keep on being wrong and to be honest I do not have much further I can fall

Thank heavens for Shutterstock is all I can say! more than compensates for the loses there  ;D

The rest top tier chug along
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 15:28 by iclick »

« Reply #267 on: October 20, 2011, 15:28 »
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Here is what I see happening with the iStock best match.  Over the past days they are using it to churn the whole image collection.  The bad news is my sales are down.  The good news is I am selling images that haven't seen a single sale in years.  Perhaps they still have value but were heretofor buried.  Maybe some of my images that were lost on the bottom of the pile will get another chance at life. I can only hope this results in more sales later.

« Reply #268 on: October 20, 2011, 15:45 »
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Here is what I see happening with the iStock best match.  Over the past days they are using it to churn the whole image collection.  The bad news is my sales are down.  The good news is I am selling images that haven't seen a single sale in years.  Perhaps they still have value but were heretofor buried.  Maybe some of my images that were lost on the bottom of the pile will get another chance at life. I can only hope this results in more sales later.

I'm seeing the same thing. But those old files that were buried... well, in may case they are really not my best work. Back when I first started uploading, I was doing things on the cheap. I was using unpaid models (ie no experience), kept my post work minimal and just threw stuff up to see if it would stick.
I don't have much hope that churning the best match will bring a whole new life to these files. They never had that much much life in them to begin with!

« Reply #269 on: October 20, 2011, 16:38 »
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Earnings are really grim.  Never had an October there like this, it's usually a strong month.  The only good news is that it looks like being another BME with SS.

« Reply #270 on: October 20, 2011, 20:24 »
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BS still doesn't make 10% of what I get from iStock. Either you are doing really well at BS or incredibly badly at IS

+1 looks like you figured it out incredibly bad.

« Reply #271 on: October 20, 2011, 22:05 »
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Sept and October are better than most previous  months. Feb March and June were my best months this year.  I should about hit last years royalties if things go on like they are in Sept and Oct.  Signed, small fish.

helix7

« Reply #272 on: October 20, 2011, 22:44 »
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istock isn't part of my workflow anymore. Just not worth it. Earnings are less than 1/10th of what they used to be.

The EPS8 requirement nixes a good portion of my recent work anyway. With StockFresh adopting the EPS10 standard, istock is the last of the microstock companies I work with that still sticks to EPS8.

RacePhoto

« Reply #273 on: October 20, 2011, 23:39 »
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BS still doesn't make 10% of what I get from iStock. Either you are doing really well at BS or incredibly badly at IS

You got it. IS has dumped so bad in the past three months that BigStock is now bringing in more downloads and money. Something I never thought was possible.

I'll put it into perspective, I made more with my first download on IS the first month I was accepted, than I did for the whole month of September on sub downloads from ThinkStock + IS combined. I have many more images now and instead of growing the sales and income have been falling. The drop in commission isn't the major concern to do with the bottom line, what has changed month after month is less downloads on IS and no change on ThinkStock. In other words, IS is the problem, not stolen sales, but still it could explain why the same pictures have been selling for years are now getting no downloads at all? And this isn't timley, trendy or stylish stuff, just some isolations and cutouts.

Anyone have any idea why? Customers gone like CC said, seems to make the most sense.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 23:47 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #274 on: October 21, 2011, 02:18 »
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Down 100% from every other month ever.  ;D

Ditto.   :)

Add me to that club.    ;D


 

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