My First Extended License Sale At Lucky Oliver!!!!

Daneel

« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2007, 05:05 »

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LO is one of the two "up and coming" sites I'm with. I've been with them for 2 weeks with about 400 photos and got 2 30 cent sales. It's not heaven, but still better than featurepics, where I have had the same amount of photos online for twice the time without any sales.

This is why I have included Lucky Oliver into my Microstock Monitor Software (see my signature and the Microstock Monitor board in the Software area). I also have faith in them. Their upload process is very smooth.

The only thing I do hope that they will provide paypal for comission payments soon (well, or not so soon, depending on my sales :-D).

All the best,
Michael


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a.k.a.-tom

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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2007, 09:15 »

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I have no intention of pulling out of LO. I like the site, bryan and the admins are helpful and very supportive. I'm hoping to eventually see sales like I experience eslewhere..
The Zazzle thing is a personal matter. I am literally competing with myself when someone else on Zazzle sells a tee with my picture on it. I'd hate to opt-out on EL for that reason alone... but...
On the other hand, until I see one of my pix there, I suppose I'll stick with it in the hopes someone will buy a legitimate El someday... Kind of like going to Vegas... big gamble. Cool

-tom


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grp_photo

« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2007, 15:16 »

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I could imagine that the main target of LO is/was to sell the site right from the beginning (nothing wrong about that) . They have a low commission-rate, a modern up-to-date design etc that would really fit in a plan like this. For a bigger company (like corbis) it would probalby still be cheaper to buy a site than build from the scratch. And a buy like this would be a big advertisment for any site (just look at the deal IS-Getty) so they could sell right from the beginning.
Disclaimer: Again this is just my imagination Cheesy


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Daneel

« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2007, 15:27 »

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Quote from: grp_photo on February 16, 2007, 15:16

Just a reason more to stay with them, right? :-)

All the best,
Michael


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Peiling

« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2007, 20:49 »

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i think its all a matter of trusting that people are good and morally upright. Of course there are always black sheeps around.

I keep an excel spreadsheet of my ELS photo download. When a photo gets downloaded I write the name, date, photo site, photo id etc that was downloaded. Should at any point in time there are issues, I will know whether the person has bought the legal rights to use it.

For Zazzle etc, I think we all try the various methods to sell in places like these and for most part sales are not good. You never know which one is a hit. If someone sells your pic and its successfull...hahah..maybe its time u sell it too? Huh


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scubabartek

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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2007, 12:22 »

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Is anyone else starting to think there is a lot of hot air with the Lucky Oliver? All the wonderful things, all the growing sales... just no one's really seeing it, eh? I'm standing at $50 growing at about a $1-$2 a week. That's going to get me a payout by autumn. Not impressive.

Anyways... still got tons of tokens to spend Wink

, you guys?


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Void

« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2007, 14:09 »

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hey scubabartek!
I donated all my tokens to this site by downloading Leaf's pics!
I am sure it has gotten him closer to a pay out.

As for me, I deleted my best from my portfolio there recently, keeping it alive just in case something happens, if not it can just fade away.

I wonder why there is no actual forum there or a page of the best sellers,
yeah we did get a
"look at what got downloaded today" page,
showing us only 25.
If memory serves correctly, on the second day of this new page, the bottom three images seem to have been carried over from the day before.... thats no too many sales.....and I just cant help but wonder how many sales are still being done with the tokens thay gave us in the beginning....


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berryspun

« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2007, 16:06 »

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Quote from: scubabartek on February 20, 2007, 12:22

Is anyone else starting to think there is a lot of hot air with the Lucky Oliver? All the wonderful things, all the growing sales... just no one's really seeing it, eh?

We'll get the answer very soon, when LO will start their marketing outreach in mid-March. Up till now my understanding is that they were focused on building their library, as well as make sure that everything was working properly on a small level. The December promo was a huge incentive which attracted some big names. Now that all the basic functions have been tested through the token use photographers were given and used and probably a few clients, the foundations are well established.

The verdict will come in a few months max. In the meantime, patience and high expectations for a site whose team is quite inspiring in the way they communicate with their fellow photographers. I sincerely hope that their strategy is right on schedule.


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bryan_luckyoliver

« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2007, 17:10 »

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I'll update everyone here and keep it simple. Talk is great, but actions mean more. We're dedicated to earning your trust. I appreciate the feedback.

Let me outline a few points:

1. We've known the Zazzle guys from their early beginnings and I talk with their founders on a regular basis. In fact, they messed up one of my orders before a trip and the founder had the shirts delivered personally to my house the next morning before 8am. If there was a problem, it would be resolved immediately. Connections are important.

Our service is really not set-up for someone to resell images at $50 a pop- their service is more geared toward individuals who create products. Our target is more small businesses that need images on packaging or other digital products. I firmly believe the extended license opportunity will benefit our photographers greatly.

2. Collecting thousands of images can be done overnight-building a community of artists however takes time. We want to create opportunity for those that work with us. We've paced ourselves to win business. We've tried to set realistic goals for people without setting the wrong impression.

3. "Not impressive." Sure, I understand. At some point every company has to start from something small. Momentum is the key metric for us right now. All our data points are going up week by week- we try to share pieces of this information. The intention is not to toot our horn- it's to give Carnies some transparency in the business. It's a difficult balance to share information. Every competitor is looking at what we're doing.

As we expand our presence, we'll try to share more of our activities. In the meantime we're nose down cranking and making LuckyOliver a great place. Thanks for the discussion!


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scubabartek

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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2007, 17:28 »

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Well Bryan,
one thing I'll give you guys is that at least you answer all the questions that we post and don't keep us in the dark. We're just getting a bit antsy because it has been quite a long time now. Although (and you can take it as a compliment) you and LO remind me a bit of Jeff Bezos and Amazon.com. He was sounding the horn a lot and doing a lot of PR while Amazon.com was languishing in the dumps. And then suddenly it sprung up to become world's number 1 internet retailer.
In the meantime as I mentioned few times before: I'll keep on holding my fingers crossed and keep on uploading. The upload process is a breeze at least. How's the LO shop going Bryan? Remember throwing these ideas to spend our tokens on something?