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ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« on: November 01, 2010, 11:06 »
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My photo blog post about NYC PDN PhotoPlus Expo 2010: 

http://annparryny.blogspot.com/2010/10/nyc-pdn-photoplus-expo.html

Candid, interesting Stock seminar moderated by ever-charming Lee Torrens. Fun to see faces behind the names - Ellen Boughn, Jonathan Ross, Sarah Fix

smiles - Ann
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 11:10 by ann »


« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 12:51 »
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thanks for the write-up.  It would have been fun to have been there.

« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 13:33 »
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Ann, what did you think of the Stock seminar?  I didn't go to that one, but did a bunch of other ones, which were hit or miss.  They had a micro stock one a couple of years back with Yuri, which was interesting.  Just found it odd that Adobe dropped out of the show for the second straight year.

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 15:20 »
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@leaf - my pleasure - and it would have been great to see you!

@surpasspro -

I enjoyed the Stock seminar. The panel was realistic about the current, more competitive, and often less-lucrative, state of stock photo business. Effective, personable speakers each delivered catchy phrases particularly helpful to those contemplating getting into stock photography, or wondering what was up with financial change from past years. And it's obvious why Ellen Boughn - so sharp and witty - is highly regarded.

But, compared to NYC PDN PhotoExpo 2008, microstock photography barely had a presence in 2010. Though Shutterstock was one of two sponsors of Stock seminar, there were no stock photo agency booths, a big difference from before. The Stock seminar  - which did not have a full house - was the only stock photography seminar, when there used to be a whole set of them. And notice that it was called "Making Money in Stock NOW" - word microstock wasn't in title.

I don't find it surprising, between downturn in economy, and how many are either migrating to macro (like me), or branching out to include macro, or getting out of stock altogether.

.................

And yes, 2008 NYC PDN Photoplus was banner Expo for stock photography, both in seminars and hall exhibitors.

side note-  I unexpectedly did guest blog w. photo on MicroStockDiaries about 2008 PDN PhotoExpo, and that ended up being big reason why I got dusk photo reflected on Javits Center windows this Friday:

Before the 2008 Microstock SuperStars seminar, I used my P&S to take photo of panel - Yuri Acurs, Andres Rodriguez, Kelly Cline, Lee Torrens, and moderator Daryl Lang from PDN. Well, it was way better shot than none at all (Photo Rule #1 - No Camera = No Photograph) , but I was frustrated it was all I had.

So, this year I decided to bring my D200, since it was light enough to carry all day. As mentioned in new blog post, I forgot I had already put my polarizing filter on before heading out for day, which impacted the shots I took during seminar. But, happily, nature provided gorgeous dusk reflected on Javits' windows, so all's good.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 15:24 by ann »

jbarber873

« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 17:11 »
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  The microstock seminar in 2008 was the reason I got into microstock. Yuri, Kelly  and Andres were so upbeat and positive it convinced me to give it a try.
In 2009, everyone was 180 degrees negative- complaining about lower RPI,  all the competition, even floating the idea of not allowing any more shots of their best selling subjects from other photographers. ( as if they invented these shots :)  The vibe was so negative it was kind of weird.
  In both of those years, the seminars aimed at the macro photographers hardly mentioned microstock, except in a kind of angry sneering aside now and then.
 I didn't go to the seminar this year because last year was so useless, so I am glad to get your take on it ;)
  I wonder what will be on the agenda next year...

« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 20:31 »
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Ann - thanks for the write up.  I wasn't able to go to the seminar but I did get a chance to walk the show and gathered some good info.  I remember you from the Scott Kelby's Worldwide Photowalk at Jones Beach in 2009 - it's nice run into you here.

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 23:42 »
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@jbarber873  - Your post has made me realize that there are probably a bunch of people on MSG that I crossed paths with at that 2008 seminar, without my knowing it.

In 2009, I signed up for seminars on fine art portfolios/grants and photojournalism that year, and then got so sick I had to skip the photojournalism one - very disappointing.

I wasn't aware of any negativity there this year, and lots of people from audience went to talk to individual panel members during break and after the 3-hour session. Sounds like each of the past 3 years was quite distinctive.

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 23:57 »
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Ann - thanks for the write up.  I wasn't able to go to the seminar but I did get a chance to walk the show and gathered some good info.  I remember you from the Scott Kelby's Worldwide Photowalk at Jones Beach in 2009 - it's nice run into you here.

You were on the Jones Beach Photowalk?!  :o  :o :o I posted info about this on its offspring, the Long Island Photowalk group.

Please, give me a clue, one way or another, who you are.  And if you're in the LIPhotowalk, please forgive me for not recognizing klsbear - my memory for names/user-names, is sad - forever taking photos of programs, signs, you name it, so I'll "remember" what I'm photographing.

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 01:29 »
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P.S.  Expires November 19, 2010 - http://www.moo.com/partner/nyc2010
(not a referral link)

At PhotoExpo, MOO gave out coupons for free pack of 50 Business Cards for price of shipping.

In case you're not familiar with MOO - you can use from 1 to 50 of your photos/designs on set. Good quality, and customer service is excellent. If you upload 10 photos, for example, you'd get 5 copies of each design. I assume IS still uses MOO for business cards for exclusives.  

(If this sort of post is inappropriate, I apologize, and hope it can be deleted.)

« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2010, 13:16 »
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P.S.  Expires November 19, 2010 - http://www.moo.com/partner/nyc2010
(not a referral link)

Thanks, that worked fine! Not a bad deal to get 50 full-color double-sided business cards for 3.50 Eur (shipment).

« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2010, 22:20 »
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Ann - thanks for the write up.  I wasn't able to go to the seminar but I did get a chance to walk the show and gathered some good info.  I remember you from the Scott Kelby's Worldwide Photowalk at Jones Beach in 2009 - it's nice run into you here.

You were on the Jones Beach Photowalk?!  :o  :o :o I posted info about this on its offspring, the Long Island Photowalk group.

Please, give me a clue, one way or another, who you are.  And if you're in the LIPhotowalk, please forgive me for not recognizing klsbear - my memory for names/user-names, is sad - forever taking photos of programs, signs, you name it, so I'll "remember" what I'm photographing.

I sent you a message with some details to help identify me!  I'm with you on the memory thing - I think the reason your name stuck in my mind was due to a followup e-mail you sent about the LI Photowalk goup.  Do you have a website for that?

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 11:30 »
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@MikLav - Great MOO link worked, and thank you for mentioning the shipping is a normal amount.


@Karen, I just dropped you a line  :) and website link is below.


In case there are any other MSG'ers interested in Long Island Photowalk group, link is below. We haven't had a walk recently, but those of us who exchanged emails send "heads up" about photo events, such as PhotoExpo, and good deals (not spam, though):

http://www.flickr.com/groups/li-photowalk/  

smiles - Ann
« Last Edit: November 03, 2010, 11:34 by ann »

ann

  • FromLongIsland.com
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 14:45 »
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P.S.  Expires November 19, 2010 - http://www.moo.com/partner/nyc2010
(not a referral link)

Thanks, that worked fine! Not a bad deal to get 50 full-color double-sided business cards for 3.50 Eur (shipment).


@MikLav I just visited your blog post about Jonathan Ross. So you were at PhotoExpos too, super!

Enjoyed reading your blog, Mikhail. Adorable young boy in French Riviera vacation photo.

« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 23:17 »
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Ann, thanks (again) for your writeup of the seminar, and for the photos.  And, of course, for attending!  Great to see you there again.   

The reason there was only one stock session this year is that the stock 'track' was poorly attended last year, so they contracted it down. Just supply and demand.  Though I did notice that the expo floor was about half the size of the last year I went (2008) and the seminars were considerably more empty too.  People were saying that it was the economy, which was certainly a factor, though stock isn't the only branch of photography being affected by massive changes in technology.

I wasn't there in 2009 (that was when my daughter was born) but I was on that session with Kelly Cline, Andres and Yuri in 2008, and the previous one in 2007 with Kelly Thompson, Ellen and Adam Brotman (Corbis/SnapVillage). There were a few jabs about microstock both times from displaced traditional stock photographers, but the attitude overall was very positive. It's interesting for me to hear that it was different in 2009. Incidentally, I find the atmosphere toward microstock much more hostile at CEPIC and PACA events - which is understandable. PhotoPlus Expo is much more about tech than business.  Maybe that's why.

Also, the reason I put "stock" rather than "microstock" in the title was because the speakers (excluding me as moderator) all had experience in traditional stock.  Obviously Ellen and Jonathan also had experience in microstock as well, but the point was to make it clear we were covering all branches of stock. We actually spent quite a bit of time discussing the differences and how to maximize effectiveness in each one. If anyone is interested, the presentation is online here. We spent a good 30 minutes dissecting top selling traditional and microstock photos (I loved that part!) but they're not included in the presentation. The photo on the opening slide is a tribute to Andres (it's his shot) who was scheduled to be there but couldn't make it due to issues beyond his control.

As for next year, we all had a very positive experience this year, so we'll be hoping to come back next year too. The feedback forms I read were all very positive (I read about 50%) but I'm not sure if there were enough attendees to justify another session next year. The official count was 72. We'll see.

« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2010, 08:15 »
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After seeing the slides I wish I could have been there even more.  All we see are the questions and not all the juicy answers! :(

« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 09:42 »
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I missed this in person, but I thought the Chase Jarvis keynote was very interesting considering how non-traditional his path to success has been, and thought some of you folks might too.

In all my years of micro experience, I've never witnessed the level of acceptance as I had in the rather informal ASMPstock meetup that Shannon organized that Friday. I was very pleased to finally get to meet Shannon, Lee, Ellen and Jonathan in person, but to sit around in a group of largely "traditional" stock photographers discussing (among other things) micro without fists flying was completely unexpected.  :)

« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2010, 10:44 »
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I missed this in person, but I thought the Chase Jarvis keynote was very interesting considering how non-traditional his path to success has been, and thought some of you folks might too.

In all my years of micro experience, I've never witnessed the level of acceptance as I had in the rather informal ASMPstock meetup that Shannon organized that Friday. I was very pleased to finally get to meet Shannon, Lee, Ellen and Jonathan in person, but to sit around in a group of largely "traditional" stock photographers discussing (among other things) micro without fists flying was completely unexpected.  :)


Thanks for the link Rob.
I have been listening to the keynote the last 30minutes while sorting photos.  Interesting talk so far.....

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