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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2009, 13:55 »
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Hi Fotoart,

 $70 dollars an image for buy out seems like a good offer for any Micro shooters, and a buy out does mean you sign over the copyright. It's done all the time in Macro stock. I have done by outs before but I don't have any seconds. Sounds like a reasonable offer to me for many here. If you want to resell them or line your living room walls with them I don't really think it matters one way or the other. How many of you have an overall RPI higher than $70 per image in Micro, that is an average of $70 per image over it's life. There are a few but not many from what I read here.

Good Luck,
Jonathan

Jonathan,

Thanks for understanding what I'm trying to do, and clarifying it to the other members.

If your interested my email is [email protected]


« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2009, 13:58 »
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Hi

I'm a small guy, buying for an agency dedicated to the newspaper market. So we like lifestyle and anything you would see in a community newspaper under editorial or advertorial content. Email me and I can send you more details.

I do this part time as a hobby and rather enjoy it. I really enjoy making my clients a few dollars for images that have had for years.

Cheers

Peter
[email protected]

Hi Fotoart,

I have a few 'seconds' you can buy the rights to for $10000 each. Any of my 'firsts' you will have to pay some serious money for. Let me now how many you want.
Cheers,

Redzaal


Nice one....you must be a real good photographer and have lots of money.........

« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2009, 14:04 »
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Do you really want the stuff we dont upload ?     A trashcan full of 70$ images is waiting  for you... You could even get em for 65$ if you push it...

yes yes yes....that is the point I have been trying to make. Email me [email protected]

« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2009, 14:06 »
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The OP has never mentioned "buying out the rights" to anything.  In fact, all he mentioned was "royalty free" up above.  So until he clearly states what he is trying to license or accomplish, not much else can go on here.

And no, Jonathan, I don't think $70 is a good buyout price for "family, fun, lifestyle" shots, like the OP mentioned.

Your opinion, as another poster mentioned, images that are in the "trashcan" is the best way to describe it

« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2009, 14:11 »
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Hi Fotoart,

 $70 dollars an image for buy out seems like a good offer for any Micro shooters, and a buy out does mean you sign over the copyright. It's done all the time in Macro stock. I have done by outs before but I don't have any seconds. Sounds like a reasonable offer to me for many here. If you want to resell them or line your living room walls with them I don't really think it matters one way or the other. How many of you have an overall RPI higher than $70 per image in Micro, that is an average of $70 per image over it's life. There are a few but not many from what I read here.

Good Luck,
Jonathan

$70 per image for a guaranteed 150 or 200 shots bought from a  one day shoot is a fairly good deal. Used to be able to get 2 to 3 times that much not long ago but I don't know what the going rate is now. I don't like selling dribs and drabs. Waste of time most of the time.
I appreciate the comment, what I do is not for everyone, alot of stock shooters do this as a hobby

zymmetricaldotcom

« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2009, 14:48 »
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No, I sell the images as yours, and it's $70.00 Canadian Dollars. Basically I'm trying to find images to make you guys some money. I don't want to sound rude but I really could care less if some of you think this is a bad deal. I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2009, 21:51 by zymmetrical »

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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2009, 14:48 »
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So your offering to buy the rights to our photos "seconds" for 70.00 (Us dollars, Pounds, Lira???) so that you can resell these as yours?????

No, I sell the images as yours, and it's $70.00 Canadian Dollars. Basically I'm trying to find images to make you guys some money. I don't want to sound rude but I really could care less if some of you think this is a bad deal. I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.

Since it's so simple to be a stock photographer with all of these new cameras that we have now days, why don't you go buy one take your own photos and sell them, I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake for you, and you'll be saving $70 a pop.  ;)

« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2009, 14:51 »
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To the OP- this is what you need to say to make yourself clear:

Hi guys.  I am looking to buy the copyright (aka full rights buyout) of any images you wish to sell.  I will be taking these images and licensing them to others in the future.  I am looking for ---- subject matter.  All images will be accepted.  You will be sent a contract clearly stating you are releasing copyright.  I will, of course, require full model and property releases for images that need them, which means any privacy your models had is given up.  $70 per image will be paid via Paypal after I decided which of your images I want.

Ok, OP, if you can't clearly state your need like I just did, I'm still not sure what you want.  Otherwise I suggest sitting down with Jonathan to have him type out a statement with your desires and terms.

« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2009, 15:08 »
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Anyone wanting to respond may want to send watermarked images with some 100% crops, unless the OP can supply some company trading details, references etc:

David  ???

« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2009, 15:20 »
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So your offering to buy the rights to our photos "seconds" for 70.00 (Us dollars, Pounds, Lira???) so that you can resell these as yours?????

No, I sell the images as yours, and it's $70.00 Canadian Dollars. Basically I'm trying to find images to make you guys some money. I don't want to sound rude but I really could care less if some of you think this is a bad deal. I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.

Since it's so simple to be a stock photographer with all of these new cameras that we have now days, why don't you go buy one take your own photos and sell them, I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake for you, and you'll be saving $70 a pop.  ;)
That's what I thought, especially as he is after our trash photos.  Anyone can be a stock photographer in the same way that anyone can paint.  It doesn't mean they will be any good at it.

I have the strong feeling something isn't right about this.  Will be interesting to find out what the scam is.

« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2009, 15:29 »
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So your offering to buy the rights to our photos "seconds" for 70.00 (Us dollars, Pounds, Lira???) so that you can resell these as yours?????

No, I sell the images as yours, and it's $70.00 Canadian Dollars. Basically I'm trying to find images to make you guys some money. I don't want to sound rude but I really could care less if some of you think this is a bad deal. I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.

Since it's so simple to be a stock photographer with all of these new cameras that we have now days, why don't you go buy one take your own photos and sell them, I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake for you, and you'll be saving $70 a pop.  ;)

Actually I do, I also own a camera shop as well. This requires a bit of my time. I said this was a hobby.

zymmetricaldotcom

« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2009, 15:33 »
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Have had initial correspondence with dealer. This is not a MSG old hippy account or an outright scam - perhaps is a workable concept for some - it would be just good if OP came straight with all the info instead of presenting it on a secondary email. 

« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2009, 15:35 »
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To the OP- this is what you need to say to make yourself clear:

Hi guys.  I am looking to buy the copyright (aka full rights buyout) of any images you wish to sell.  I will be taking these images and licensing them to others in the future.  I am looking for ---- subject matter.  All images will be accepted.  You will be sent a contract clearly stating you are releasing copyright.  I will, of course, require full model and property releases for images that need them, which means any privacy your models had is given up.  $70 per image will be paid via Paypal after I decided which of your images I want.

Ok, OP, if you can't clearly state your need like I just did, I'm still not sure what you want.  Otherwise I suggest sitting down with Jonathan to have him type out a statement with your desires and terms.

Thank You...well written although many understood what I posted.

lisafx

« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2009, 15:40 »
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Fotoart, you may be completely sincere and on the level.  However I am sure you can appreciate that your approach could use some polish.  

You really haven't given us enough information to make an informed decision, so you can't really be surprised that your offer would appear as a scam to some.  

As Sjlocke suggested, filling in the details would be helpful.  

So far what I gather is this:  You will pay $70 Canadian for the copyrights to people's lifestyle photos.

Here's what I don't know:  

Will you require model/property releases?
What will you be doing with the images?  

If you could explain a bit better what you are about perhaps you would get a more enthusiastic reception...

ETA:  If you want editorial stuff and don't require model releases I have some stuff I would be happy to turn over for $70 a pop.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2009, 16:02 by lisafx »

« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2009, 16:19 »
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Some details of use would help, once you assign copyright then there cannot be no conditions, the OP's customers T&C's of use going forward would be of interest.

One of the replies mentioned editorial and advertorial, so at a wild guess it could be on of the new startups that allow you to hot link and render images into your blogs and articles, these are not downloadable just rendered in the article or blog, so second string images would be ok for this use, the images appear with an advertisment link and the service charges the advertisers, the only way this can really work is with wholly owned content.

PiccApp is one of these services I blogged an overview of these services a few weeks ago, and they currently use images wholly owned by companies like Getty and Corbis http://bit.ly/TIjOj

It is hard for these services to deal direct with artists, here is a link to the types of deals they are making for distrubution.

David    
« Last Edit: August 31, 2009, 16:35 by Adeptris »

« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2009, 16:19 »
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No, I sell the images as yours, and it's $70.00 Canadian Dollars.

I took that to mean he doesn't want the copyrights. Though it all doesn't make sense to me.

fotoart, I fall into the group of people that doesn't quite understand exactly what you are doing.

Can you explain it here or do we have to email you directly? That just adds to my suspicions that something may not be quite right. Can you answer Lisa's questions here?

« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2009, 16:26 »
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I just don't really understand why can't people ask questions politely, or ignore the thread.  :-\

lisafx

« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2009, 16:45 »
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I just don't really understand why can't people ask questions politely, or ignore the thread.  :-\

Reading back over the thread I don't really see much in the way of impolitely asked questions.  People are understandably skeptical, but for the most part it seems pretty civil to me.

I do have a couple of folks ignored.  Did I miss something overtly rude?

« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2009, 16:54 »
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I, for one, am interested in the offer. I agree that people here have become more and more negative of late. It's a pity. I hope that new members will feel that they can post without being attacked or ridiculed. This website is a wonderful resource and I would hate to see it die off because people seem so aggressive.

« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2009, 16:59 »
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I hate to say it but with the simplicity of digital camera now, every one is a stock photographer.

Yes. A stock photographer who never makes real money. If you want to make money, you still need experience, skill and eqipment.

« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2009, 16:59 »
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Lisa, sarcasm is unpolite to me.  The initial post wasn't clear, clarifications can be asked without treating the person as if someone trying to fool us.  Even if one disagrees with the proposal, he can justify why he doesn't find the deal acceptable, without resorting to accusations.

« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2009, 17:14 »
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I, for one, am interested in the offer. I agree that people here have become more and more negative of late. It's a pity. I hope that new members will feel that they can post without being attacked or ridiculed. This website is a wonderful resource and I would hate to see it die off because people seem so aggressive.

Be in touch,

Peter

[email protected]

« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2009, 17:47 »
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I, for one, am interested in the offer. I agree that people here have become more and more negative of late. It's a pity. I hope that new members will feel that they can post without being attacked or ridiculed. This website is a wonderful resource and I would hate to see it die off because people seem so aggressive.

The internet is full of scams.  People who start postings about business propositions should be very  clear about their situation.  Even now, were still not sure what he wants.  Instead, he is sending mails to keep it private so the group is not able to confer on the matter.

If you want rainbows and unicorns 24/7 then I can't help you there.

traveler1116

« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2009, 19:40 »
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Not to be rude but sounds like a scam, he/she has replied to a few people without saying what sean (and anyone remotely interested) would like to hear about terms and conditions.  No link to a business, nothing at all really. 

« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2009, 19:58 »
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I'll let everyone know when I find out more...


 

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