Author Topic: Yuri Arcurs Keywording Tool (Read 28185 times)

WarrenPrice · « **on:** May 02, 2009, 21:54 »

I just stumbled across this on Twitter ... post leading to Yuri Arcurs website. It mentions Lucky Oliver so is probably an old tool?

Looks interesting. Take it for a spin:
http://arcurs.com/keywording/

goldenangel · « **Reply #1 on:** May 03, 2009, 02:17 »

It is an old tool but sill very much functional, at least with the Shutterstock database. I use it for keywording of my images.

Magnum · « **Reply #2 on:** May 03, 2009, 02:51 »

SS, LO or both. wich one u choose

Why not update it?

Ps. Am I wrong? was there an option earlier where you could choose both? It´s not anymore.

fotorob · « **Reply #3 on:** May 03, 2009, 03:15 »

Quote

Ps. Am I wrong? was there an option earlier where you could choose both? It´s not anymore.

I remember that too.

I guess that some agencies didn't like to amount of traffic the tool sucked or didn't want to encourage "keyword theft" and "keyword spamming" or the idea that too many people use the same keywords over and over again. Who knows.

Magnum · « **Reply #4 on:** May 03, 2009, 03:36 »

Then why didn´t they remove LO at the same time ? It´s so popular, why not work on it a little?

fotorob · « **Reply #5 on:** May 03, 2009, 04:24 »

Don't ask me, ask Yuri.

Since he doesn't earn money with the tool, I do understand that he sets different priorities...

Dreamframer · « **Reply #6 on:** May 03, 2009, 06:13 »

I use it regularly.
Thanks Yuri!

Peter · « **Reply #7 on:** May 03, 2009, 06:53 »

Who is Yuri Arcurs?

tan510jomast · « **Reply #8 on:** May 03, 2009, 07:33 »

Warren, keywording is my biggest problem in microstock. i never even thought of using something like that, maybe i should. cheers.

Magnum · « **Reply #9 on:** May 03, 2009, 10:39 »

Quote from: fotorob on May 03, 2009, 04:24

Don't ask me, ask Yuri.

Since he doesn't earn money with the tool, I do understand that he sets different priorities...

Sorry, It was just a question out in the open air. I am also grateful for this tool. I just think it´s a pity to not have it 100%.

I guess he easily could earn money on ads there. Must be thousand of hits every day..

Yuri_Arcurs · « **Reply #10 on:** May 03, 2009, 19:17 »

I will have my programmer improve on it a little this summer. I promise. Remember. It is non-profit!
Server expenses are about 600 USD per year with the amount of user now using the service.

tan510jomast · « **Reply #11 on:** May 03, 2009, 19:20 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 03, 2009, 19:17

I will have my programmer improve on it a little this summer. I promise. Remember. It is non-profit!
Server expenses are about 600 USD per year with the amount of user now using the service.

this is something else , Yuri ! giving back to photography ... Cheers ! especially from me, who needs keywording help enormously

goldenangel · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2009, 00:05 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 03, 2009, 19:17

I will have my programmer improve on it a little this summer. I promise. Remember. It is non-profit!
Server expenses are about 600 USD per year with the amount of user now using the service.

I really appreciate the tool. It is of great help. Thank you again!

Magnum · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:15 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 03, 2009, 19:17

I will have my programmer improve on it a little this summer. I promise. Remember. It is non-profit!
Server expenses are about 600 USD per year with the amount of user now using the service.

That´s good:) Thanks !

I still think you could have ads there. There are tons of foolish microstockers out there, clicking on everything

airphoto.gr · « **Reply #14 on:** May 04, 2009, 17:22 »

Thanks A LOT Yuri!

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #15 on:** May 04, 2009, 20:20 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on May 03, 2009, 19:17

I will have my programmer improve on it a little this summer. I promise. Remember. It is non-profit!
Server expenses are about 600 USD per year with the amount of user now using the service.

Don't forget all the sales you lose in there by assisting your competition

...

travismanley · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2009, 10:07 »

Just started using the tool and it is a big help and time saver. Thanks Yuri

karensuki · « **Reply #17 on:** May 05, 2009, 13:31 »

I think a couple of ads on the page wouldn't hurt. It would help pay for itself and any improvements.

I used picniche keywording tool the other day and threw everything out but 2. I keep more of the keywords when I use Yuri's. It is more accurate.

travismanley · « **Reply #18 on:** May 05, 2009, 13:34 »

Quote from: karensuki on May 05, 2009, 13:31

I think a couple of ads on the page wouldn't hurt. It would help pay for itself and any improvements.

I used picniche keywording tool the other day and threw everything out but 2. I keep more of the keywords when I use Yuri's. It is more accurate.

I agree, the picniche tool needs a little work. The Yuri tool takes a little more time but yields better results.

Oldhand · « **Reply #19 on:** May 05, 2009, 13:40 »

Hi there -

Funny one the keywording tool. For those with English as a second language it's great. For those who are pushed for time - it's great. For anyone else, it's a good start, problem being you end up with the same keywords as everyone else if you rely totally on it.

I would suggest using the tool, but spending some time thinking about other keywords as well.

The way the keywords are arranged when you are finished is convenient for cut and paste, but beware if you upload them in the same order to sites like Fotolia where keyword order matters.

Just a thought

Old hand

travismanley · « **Reply #20 on:** May 05, 2009, 13:44 »

Quote from: Oldhand on May 05, 2009, 13:40

problem being you end up with the same keywords as everyone else if you rely totally on it.

I usually write about ten or more of my own keywords and then see what it suggests to fill in another 10-20

melastmohican · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2009, 13:59 »

Quote from: stockkeywords on May 12, 2009, 05:38

Hi!,
I've created this tool to assist myself in keywording. Just want to share it with you all.

www.stockkeywords.com

cheers,
Mike

Good stuff. I have used Yuri's tool for keywording for a while. Tried the other tool http://www.findphotokeywords.com/ but this one seems to be easier to use.

Magnum · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2009, 16:45 »

It wasn´t working for me. I got some kind of error message. Typed: sun,blue,sky,grass

bobbigmac · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2009, 14:04 »

Quote from: travismanley on May 05, 2009, 13:34

Quote from: karensuki on May 05, 2009, 13:31
I think a couple of ads on the page wouldn't hurt. It would help pay for itself and any improvements.

I used picniche keywording tool the other day and threw everything out but 2. I keep more of the keywords when I use Yuri's. It is more accurate.

I agree, the picniche tool needs a little work. The Yuri tool takes a little more time but yields better results.

Hey Karen & Travis

Just wondering if you could elaborate a little for me please on the picNiche keywording?

Were there not enough keywords, or were they inaccurate?
Did refining the query help or hinder your desired results?
Was it something else, UI, ordering, etc?

Any feedback is hugely appreciated

It's really slow (as my server is pretty awful for now

but working on that too

Thanks

** Not sure where to put this response as it probably shouldn't be in this thread :/ if you feel it should be somewhere else Leaf please move it

Thanks

travismanley · « **Reply #24 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:34 »

Quote from: bobbigmac on May 16, 2009, 14:04

Quote from: travismanley on May 05, 2009, 13:34
Quote from: karensuki on May 05, 2009, 13:31
I think a couple of ads on the page wouldn't hurt. It would help pay for itself and any improvements.

I used picniche keywording tool the other day and threw everything out but 2. I keep more of the keywords when I use Yuri's. It is more accurate.

I agree, the picniche tool needs a little work. The Yuri tool takes a little more time but yields better results.

Hey Karen & Travis

Just wondering if you could elaborate a little for me please on the picNiche keywording?
Were there not enough keywords, or were they inaccurate?
Did refining the query help or hinder your desired results?
Was it something else, UI, ordering, etc?

Any feedback is hugely appreciated

It's really slow (as my server is pretty awful for now but working on that too

Thanks

** Not sure where to put this response as it probably shouldn't be in this thread :/ if you feel it should be somewhere else Leaf please move it Thanks

Hey Bob,

I tried the picNiche keyword tool with the word "apple" and these were the results:

apple, fruit, green, health, diet, fruits, red, abstract, food, healthy, background, woman, vegetable, autumn, girl, color, christmas, isolated, orange, beauty, white, concept, apples, colorful, cornucopia, nature, water, art, vitamin, graphic, summer, sweet, nutrition, wallpaper, pop, city, fall, business, reflection, shape, pattern,

Of these results I feel only maybe ten are relevant to the image I had in my head. If I were to use Yuri's tool I could select a handful of images that were similar to mine and then easily select the images I want to use and have them all compiled in a comma separated list.

Hope this helps.

bobbigmac · « **Reply #25 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:39 »

Ahhh, these are retrieved from the 'suggestions' list on picNiche.com and not from the toolbar keywording tool?

This is raw (un-processed) data, which is why the picNiche web functionality isn't really a keywording tool as it's mainly for research (though in theory a more descriptive phrase, and thus a higher rated niche produces a better list of potential keywords).
The toolbar keywording functionality is not only a more accurate list of associative data, but also allows refinement of the query across multiple terms.
I'll blog about this in detail as soon as I have the time

Thanks for the feedback

travismanley · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:53 »

Quote from: bobbigmac on May 20, 2009, 09:39

Ahhh, these are retrieved from the 'suggestions' list on picNiche.com and not from the toolbar keywording tool?

Oops, didnt see the keyword tool in the toolbar. My bad.

I tried out the toolbar and it works pretty well. I still feel like I have more control with Yuir's tool, but I will have to play around with this a little more.

bobbigmac · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2009, 10:01 »

Quote from: travismanley on May 20, 2009, 09:53

I tried out the toolbar and it works pretty well. I still feel like I have more control with Yuir's tool, but I will have to play around with this a little more.

Aye, mine isn't built to override Yuris, just another way of achieving a similarly useful result

One of the things I'm trying to get out of the keyword-set however is a potential commercial value for that set to aid in keyword optimisation. (That's something I'm working on for picNiche)
I'll talk more about that elsewhere rather than hijacking Yuri's thread to go on about picNiche

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