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Agency Based Discussion => New Sites - General => Topic started by: njnightsky on May 25, 2012, 09:13
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Anyone know anything about Pocketstock? I got invite via email today.
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Got one too. Site doesn't look too bad a bit slow though. The offer is quite acceptable.
IOFOTO is already there.
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Got one too. Site doesn't look too bad a bit slow though. The offer is quite acceptable.
1. their royalties ainīt that great but looking at all top agencies donīt know..
2. they need to make it faster to submit, its quite boring to choose if your picture was taken by a cell phone or not for every file you upload, they should come up with a default option or something..
3. the payout seems a little high too $70/Ģ60/70
Royalty Schedule
Star Rating Non-Exclusive Exclusive
Orange Star (1 - 149) 30% 35%
Bright Star (150 - 1,499) 32% 36%
Bronze Star (1,500 - 4,999) 34% 37%
Silver Star (5,000 - 14,999) 36% 40%
Gold Star (15,000 - 49,999) 38% 43%
Diamond Star (50,000+ downloads)
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Here comes another one. I just repeat: below 50% = no way. Nice try anyhow...
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Anyone know anything about these guys??
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Anyone know anything about these guys??
not much, only that a ton of top contributors have already joined ;)
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Read through this thread, and you'll be in the know....
http://www.microstockgroup.com/veer-marketplace/your-veer-portfolio-on-alamy/msg258149/?topicseen#new (http://www.microstockgroup.com/veer-marketplace/your-veer-portfolio-on-alamy/msg258149/?topicseen#new)
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Read through this thread, and you'll be in the know....
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/veer-marketplace/your-veer-portfolio-on-alamy/msg258149/?topicseen#new[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/veer-marketplace/your-veer-portfolio-on-alamy/msg258149/?topicseen#new[/url])
pocketstock.com.mx - is the one Veer partners with
pocketstock.com is a different agency
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The FTP upload is easy but there's a lot of clicks to go through after they pass review. I'll upload some of my portfolio but will need some sales to spend much time there.
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Anyone know anything about these guys??
Pocketstock is a new agency set up by industry veteran Russell Glenister who previously co-founded and sold image100, a successful royalty free agency, to Corbis.
We are currently uploading content (a lot of it!), opening a New York office and preparing for our sales launch which is scheduled for later this month. We'll be posting more information and joining forum discussions in ernest once we start selling but in the meantime, if you want to know more about Russell or Pocketstock, you can check the following sites:
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/?newsid=4988&page=5&pagepos=4 (http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/?newsid=4988&page=5&pagepos=4)
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/russell-glenister/14/9b8/717 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/russell-glenister/14/9b8/717)
http://www.pocketstock.com/cathy-yeulet-interview (http://www.pocketstock.com/cathy-yeulet-interview)
http://microstockagencies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/pocketstock.html (http://microstockagencies.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/pocketstock.html)
http://mobograf.com/2012/04/19/cha-ching-make-some-cash-for-your-mobile-pics-hello-pocketstock/ (http://mobograf.com/2012/04/19/cha-ching-make-some-cash-for-your-mobile-pics-hello-pocketstock/)
Alternatively, we love to chat so you're always more than welcome to contact us directly!
[email protected] - CEO
[email protected] - International Development Manager
[email protected] - Creative Director
Marianne
PS: We're not associated with pocketstock.com.mx
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Thanks Marianne, good luck with the site. Hope there's enough sales to keep us all happy. New sites haven't had much success in recent years. I hope one will make it to the top four of our earnings poll one day.
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Marianne - thanks for posting. It seems as the new site has some good things going for it - the CEO has a track record in the stock business, the pricing, payout level and contributor royalty schedule look reasonable. Not sure what to make of the exclusive iPhone/Android images - but as I'm not sure any of the other agencies would take them anyway, there'd be little to loose by trying some out.
It'd be great if you'd post here when you're interested in having some of the smaller fry upload to your site (I have 2,500 in my portfolio, for example - a drop in the bucket compared to the factories you're currently getting onto the site).
Oh, and if you're accepting funding from H&F or Bain or KKR, post that too :)
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Thanks Marianne, good luck with the site. Hope there's enough sales to keep us all happy. New sites haven't had much success in recent years. I hope one will make it to the top four of our earnings poll one day.
Thanks!
We know it's a mature crowded market that we're entering.... but there's still room for innovation.
;)
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Marianne - thanks for posting. It seems as the new site has some good things going for it - the CEO has a track record in the stock business, the pricing, payout level and contributor royalty schedule look reasonable. Not sure what to make of the exclusive iPhone/Android images - but as I'm not sure any of the other agencies would take them anyway, there'd be little to loose by trying some out.
It'd be great if you'd post here when you're interested in having some of the smaller fry upload to your site (I have 2,500 in my portfolio, for example - a drop in the bucket compared to the factories you're currently getting onto the site).
Oh, and if you're accepting funding from H&F or Bain or KKR, post that too :)
Thanks for the kind words and we're always interested in anyone who wants to submit. It's not just about quantity - it's about quality and diversity as well!
If you have 2,500 images then we can set up an FTP account for you so just email me directly and I'll sort it out for you.
I understand the hesitation regarding mobile photography because it is still in its infancy but believe me, that's going to change in the coming years.
No news to report on H&F, Bain or KKR but will keep you posted.
;)
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Thanks Marianne, good luck with the site. Hope there's enough sales to keep us all happy. New sites haven't had much success in recent years. I hope one will make it to the top four of our earnings poll one day.
Thanks.
You're right - new sites haven't been very successful but with innovation and experience we believe we can do well. In time of course. Nothing happens overnight!
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The FTP upload is easy but there's a lot of clicks to go through after they pass review. I'll upload some of my portfolio but will need some sales to spend much time there.
exactly, I can see at least 3 clicks per picture if it hasnīt MR, perhaps time for PS to drop them :D
our profile ainīt showing up our portfolio too..
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I have more than 7000 images.
FTP is ok for me, but in new agencies i don't want to waste any more time.
Questions (i think we all have):
1) Do you have subscriptions? do you plan to have?
2) If i send you 7000 images with MR connect to the files in an Excel spreadsheet, do you take care of all the process?
3) If i want to quit selling, how much time must my images have to wait?
Thanks.
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The compass program would actually make your site very attractive for different reasons, but the requirements are not very clear.
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
Don't you just sign up as a contributor? I didn't see any pre-qualification process.
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
Don't you just sign up as a contributor? I didn't see any pre-qualification process.
he is jokking :D
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
Don't you just sign up as a contributor? I didn't see any pre-qualification process.
he is jokking :D
Well, SH_T if they love him maybe they will at least like me a little. :P
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delete :D
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
Don't you just sign up as a contributor? I didn't see any pre-qualification process.
he is jokking :D
Well, SH_T if they love him maybe they will at least like me a little. :P
Hmmmm... maybe I spoke out of turn. I just assumed it was a mass mailing. I trashed it. :-\
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you guys need to start answering emails too :-\
or are we going for only top contributors?
That's exactly what I was wondering. I hate to go through all the uploading work to have SF level sales. And the sub thing, unfortunately, is a proven model that even the likes of Pocketstock can't, in some form, pass on.
Not just Top Contributors ... I got an email from therm. :-[
and ? ;D
And they love me. ;D
Don't you just sign up as a contributor? I didn't see any pre-qualification process.
he is jokking :D
Well, SH_T if they love him maybe they will at least like me a little. :P
Hmmmm... maybe I spoke out of turn. I just assumed it was a mass mailing. I trashed it. :-\
havenīt got that one, only know them from here
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Hi everyone,
I'm sorry we haven't been on the forum recently but I want to assure you that we do answer all emails although there can on occasion be a delay as we're super busy gearing up for our launch. We're also upgrading our servers earlier than planned due to the high volume of content being submitted and we're in the middle of opening up our New York office.
If you have any questions about submitting content then Tavis will definitely get back to you in due course but in the meantime, if you have any more general questions, you can always email me directly: [email protected].
Marianne
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I uploaded a small batch of images to see what their system is like and so far I am not impressed. They accepted a few images and made them directly live, but almost all of the rest where put in a bracket to get property releases. They are waiting property releases for things like a chess piece, row of chairs, a bed, etc....but things like a boat are fine. Not sure what this is all about, but it looks like it might be a hassle if I had to create all these releases for non-buildings. Oh, out of my 20 images they accepted 9, rejected 4 and the rest are in property release purgatory.
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they really need to start answering emails, anybody found a way (link) to our portfolio there?
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You're right - new sites haven't been very successful but with innovation and experience we believe we can do well. In time of course. Nothing happens overnight!
Sorry, what's innovative about image prices cheaper then elsewhere, as well as the same content as everyone else?
"You can guarantee that at Pocketstock we will give you the best price for any image or illustration."
By the way, what's your guarantee, since your XS appears to be 2 credits, while at IS you can get an XS for 1? And your per credit goes from $1.38 to $1.54, which tends to be more than XS (and definitely more than SS) for example?
Also, it doesn't seem particularly innovative to not list royalty rates for new contributors on your main page: http://www.pocketstock.com/become-a-contributor (http://www.pocketstock.com/become-a-contributor) You have to dig a bit to find it: http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties (http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties)
I don't see anything innovative on your search or the advanced search. No search by color, or copyspace, etc. Also, it isn't intuitive - I tried to search on apple, and then only "no people" and couldn't get it to load correctly, or at all.
So, what's your selling point to contributors?
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Hello Luis
This is something we are putting together right now. I'm will know more about the time frame in the next couple of days so I will let you know.
Best Regards
Tavis Wright
Head of Creative
t:020 7704 1633 (ext 208)
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Really, jeeze...it's another DP, PD, SF...another pimple in the microstock ass.
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What is the current timeline for reviews? The email says, "editing time is currently around 5 working days." but that is clearly not the case. I'm at 2 weeks at this point. I'd like to understand the acceptance process, etc., before I spend much more time on it.
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It's took longer than 5 days for my last batch also. With nothing better to do i can wait. I'll concentrate on my other sites and before i know it they"ll be reviewed.
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Just uploaded a few more. Tomorrow i'm off to soot some more.
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Just uploaded a few more. Tomorrow i'm off to soot some more.
Happy sooting ;D
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that's shoot ::)
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that's shoot ::)
Just yanking your chain...
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What is the current timeline for reviews? The email says, "editing time is currently around 5 working days." but that is clearly not the case. I'm at 2 weeks at this point. I'd like to understand the acceptance process, etc., before I spend much more time on it.
For me I uploaded my 20 test batch and it took about 3 days for them to get in the pending box to submit them. After that it took about 3 to 4 weeks before they approved some of the images and kicked about half back for property releases. I think its taking a long time sense they might be getting a lot of new people joining with large portfolio's.
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Received an e-mail frome them 5 minutes ago, Uploading a few pictures to see what the upload process is like, if it's not fast and smooth they can stay where they are, I found their name in the low earners so...
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Reviving old thread, as it seems they are tinkering with prices hugely
This is from one of my files...
X Small 484x311 px $ 2.00
Small 884x567 px $ 4.00
Medium 1767x1133 px $ 8.00
Large 2793x1791 px $ 11.00
X Large 4031x2584 px $ 14.00
Werent these WAY higher when we all signed up? Not sure many will be happy with that, so many will only join sites that are priced higher than where they already are submitting to.
Then again, with zero sales, who really cares...
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^^ Totally the risk of joining new MS sites. I think that has happened to some degree on most MS sites. Now, someone like Kozzi, they are coming in dirt cheap and maybe they will get a pool of nice images and raise their prices to where everyone else is ;D :o I wonder how many people have signed up with Kozzi anyway. I wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole. I've been looking for that next site and have eliminated Pocketstock, Kozzi and Pond5 based on the excellent feedback MSG has provided me. Probably not any other site to consider and given your feedback, Pocketstock has joined the dark side.
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Surprise to see a list of high profile companies that have apparently purchased from Pocketstock on their front page: http://www.pocketstock.com/ (http://www.pocketstock.com/)
Anyone on here sold a single thing with these guys yet?
I am about to stop uploading.
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Surprise to see a list of high profile companies that have apparently purchased from Pocketstock on their front page: [url]http://www.pocketstock.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.pocketstock.com/[/url])
Anyone on here sold a single thing with these guys yet?
I am about to stop uploading.
zero!
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zero!
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zero!
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Surprise to see a list of high profile companies that have apparently purchased from Pocketstock on their front page: [url]http://www.pocketstock.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.pocketstock.com/[/url])
Anyone on here sold a single thing with these guys yet?
I am about to stop uploading.
You're STILL uploading?
I hold my horses for now until I see their newly implemented system to kick in and bring some sales.
Why throwing time into something with no returns whatsoever?
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Yeah I'm convinced, no more uploads for me either till some downloads start.
The only reason I was still uploading is that I hate to get out of sync between portfolios on different sites.
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The front page didn't say those companies bought the images from Pocketstock, just bought "our" images. My guess would be the images were purchased through other channels as the founder has been around stock photography for a while. I'm also guessing those "package" prices are an attempt to get buyers. But 63 cents each for images (of which I get 25 cents) doesn't appeal to me much.
CanStock without the volume (and yes, I am joking) is where that ends up
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So excited - just had to report my first sale at PS - a whopping .28 commission earned on a .70 sale for an XL image.
Not sure how long I can stomach this.
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Congratulations...I think :)
70 cents for XL is just nuts. Even if they say they're trying to match other sites, SS pays $2.85 for XL sizes on demand. Who are they matching for 70 cents for XL?
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Congratulations...I think :)
70 cents for XL is just nuts. Even if they say they're trying to match other sites, SS pays $2.85 for XL sizes on demand. Who are they matching for 70 cents for XL?
Good question.
They now have a subscription plan -even though their Royalties and Payment page clearly states: "We dont currently offer a subscription model."
http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties (http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties)
And there is nothing I can find detailing how much we will get paid for subs - other than the % they promised you when you signed up - for me that's 40%.
But 70 cents for an XL image seems too low, considering where they were at in the beginning.
But that is what we get from Thinkstock. (not to defend the either of them)
Edit to add link
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Is this officially the first reported sale at Pocketstock?!
They were swamping us with communication to begin with, highlighting their grand plans and how they were going to change the world of stock. But now that the 28 cent commissions have begun to flow we don't even get an email stating how much we will get paid for subs?
28 cents for a new site - not good.
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...And there is nothing I can find detailing how much we will get paid for subs - other than the % they promised you when you signed up - for me that's 40%.
But 70 cents for an XL image seems too low, considering where they were at in the beginning.
But that is what we get from Thinkstock. (not to defend the either of them) ...
Their "packages" - subs like entities - don't have anything that comes out to 70 cents for an image - it's one size fits all (even vectors) and 63 cents, $1.30 or $2.50 each are the per image prices. The "list" prices are from $2 to $22, so that doesn't fit either.
I'm not a fan of subscriptions, but when the volume is high enough - like SS and possibly soon the IS parter program (my October royalties from that broke the $200 mark for the month for the first time) - I can live with the deal. At the end of the month the numbers look good and I think that people download more than they actually use because they know they can. The feeling that it's already paid for liberates people in a way that paying $34 for it (IS Photo+) doesn't.
I don't see any other payment options at Pocketstock, so perhaps they've done a distribution deal at those prices? Might be worth asking them. I would, but my balance is still $0 which makes the issue moot :)
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Seems like they are totally schizophrenic, weren't they complaining that the subs model was ruining the industry a few weeks ago, now they have thrown their toys out of the pram and are offering
Quote: "The best subscription deals ever." (for the buyer, i.e. worst for us)
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Congratulations...I think :)
70 cents for XL is just nuts. Even if they say they're trying to match other sites, SS pays $2.85 for XL sizes on demand. Who are they matching for 70 cents for XL?
Good question.
They now have a subscription plan -even though their Royalties and Payment page clearly states: "We dont currently offer a subscription model."
[url]http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties[/url] ([url]http://www.pocketstock.com/textual/royalties[/url])
And there is nothing I can find detailing how much we will get paid for subs - other than the % they promised you when you signed up - for me that's 40%.
But 70 cents for an XL image seems too low, considering where they were at in the beginning.
But that is what we get from Thinkstock. (not to defend the either of them)
Edit to add link
Quoting myself to add that today they have removed the line bolded in the above post.
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Oh so they are reading here then, just not keeping anyone informed
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Oh so they are reading here then, just not keeping anyone informed
Actually I did tell them it was there in a email
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:-\ I got an email invitation, and I though maybe I was special - * obviously not.... oh well felt good for a little while - anyway I know I am special hahahhahhahhahhha crazy special...... dont know if I have time, wedding season has started for me as summer is coming to the southern hemisphere, so I will think about it all next winter
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:-\ I got an email invitation, and I though maybe I was special - * obviously not.... oh well felt good for a little while - anyway I know I am special hahahhahhahhahhha crazy special...... dont know if I have time, wedding season has started for me as summer is coming to the southern hemisphere, so I will think about it all next winter
Me got invitation to, me special to, now everybody special = nobody special.
Ah, another Southern Hemispherer - We have a little heatwave 38-40 degrees Celsius yesterday. Winter will make now difference to me, end December is going to be my agency dead wood cutout period. Will rather not replace a dead tree with a stump.
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I don't often check Pocketstock, but I did today and found that I made a sale on Nov 19th - a 31 cent commission on a 78 cent sale of a "basic" license, XL image. Sad that the prices are so low - with those sort of returns you have to want them to fail rather than succeed :)
I think they've given up on communicating with contributors. The last e-mail I have was from October 19th talking about the new Packages (and dropping bidder). But I can't see any package that gives a 78 cent price (2.50, 1.30 and 63 cents are the per image prices for the three packages they're offering).
I'll let things ride through the end of the year, but with terrible sales volume and rotten royalties, I can't see any reason to stick with them if nothing else changes.
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I've checked my sales and I've had a few vector sales for Ģ0.20! I've emailed them to find out what is going on, they got my work by promising they wouldn't be joining the race to the bottom!!
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I've sent them a request to remove my portfolio and close my account. Not sold anything and if commissions are that low, it's not worth it.
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I've checked my sales and I've had a few vector sales for Ģ0.20! I've emailed them to find out what is going on, they got my work by promising they wouldn't be joining the race to the bottom!!
This is really the problem with microstock nowadays....a race to see who can offer the lowest pricing and consequently lowest commissions. The real challenge for me (and I suspect most others in ms who are independent) is once you are rooted in the big four and a scattering of other sites like DP, PD, etc, where do you go from here in terms of growing your microstock income? Pocketstock is turning out to not add a lot of value, and so is stockfresh. Most of the newer sites seem to just get cheaper, sleazier and don't offer a real differentiator that is attractive to buyers and contributors. Now picture engine is different but time will tell. Microstock sites have to offer customer value in order to attract them. When is the last time we've seen a survey of what buyers want in a stock site? What I see is new sites using old business models.
I am at a crossroads as to where to take my 3000 images next.
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6 days after asking them to remove my portfolio and close my account, I've had no reply from them. Starting to remind me of that dreadful site I had problems with, albumo.
Anyone else having problems getting their portfolio removed?
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As rookie ( when I did not know where is the best to upload) I have heard several times:
STICK WITH TOP AND MIDDLE TIER and You will have a sweet, calm sleep.
Old people in my part of world says: Donkey goes only once on ice.
;)
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6 days after asking them to remove my portfolio and close my account, I've had no reply from them. Starting to remind me of that dreadful site I had problems with, albumo.
Anyone else having problems getting their portfolio removed?
But they still have time to canvas for more contributors. Got my 2nd invite.