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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 01:59 »
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I  have severe problems with  my  arms  and  I  am  only uploading  to 4 agencies.  Would it be better  to go with just one exclusive  in order to get more paid?  If yes which one?  I  do like DT because they tell me what's wrong with my photos.  I  get views on DT but hardly any on Fotolia. No sales yet.  Would it be best to go exclusive  with SS ?


« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 02:04 »
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I think the only one worth considering is Istock the draw back for you though is there is a lot of keyboard work to load pics. Though you can make individual pics exclusive with DT and Fotolia ...so might be worth testing the waters. SS don't do exclusive.

« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 02:54 »
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Thank you.  I  am not  uploading  to iStock yet. I  am  new. I  do like DT for learning  but have a high acceptance rate there but not with  Fotolia.  The same photos get rejected  by  Fotolia.  I  am not sure if my photos are good enough for iStock.  I  don't have problems to get photos accepted  that i took outside  but with the  light set up  inside  i struggle.  I  don't have a light tent. Natural window light doesn't seem to be enough for DT. I  do use a reflector. I  don't like artificial light on food. I  will  try out iStock.

« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 03:08 »
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I like DT too bottom line is though they don't sell much........ :-\.

« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 04:18 »
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Very sad. At least my photos get viewed  there.  The same photos on Fotolia  have no views but i do have less on Fotolia.  They are rejecting photos taken inside so much. Do i need  to  buy a light tent instead of working on windows? 

« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 06:01 »
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I don't take any notice of views for some pics on DT I have thousands of views and no sales :-(.

« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 06:45 »
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istock takes nearly everything. Their biggest downside is you get 15-20% royalty and because subs dont count towards earning points to move up you are basically stuck at a very low level forever.

But they do have sales and if you are new I would try them as well.

ShadySue

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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 07:31 »
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istock takes nearly everything. Their biggest downside is you get 15-20% royalty
Oh, at first I thought 'you get 15-20%' referred to the first sentence, but of course on second reading I realised you meant that iS hardly reject anything nowadays other than for IP. Ha! Back in the day, a pixel out of place meant a certain rejection!

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and because subs dont count towards earning points to move up you are basically stuck at a very low level forever.
But they do have sales and if you are new I would try them as well.
Are your new files selling?
What sells most for me are still files uploaded before September 2012, and even old scans are more likely to sell than files loaded after that, other than occaisional subs. What I'm noticing over the past couple of months is that even from pre 2010 with <5 dls are now selling, which must be best match. Files uploaded in or after 2014 are almost exclusively selling only as Subs, if even that.
I must have been at the peak of my photographic ability in 2011, and fallen off rapidly after that.  ::)
Still, for all the credit sales I get nowadays, it's hardly worth even looking at stats, far less try to analyse them iS seems now to be almost totally a subs site.  >:( :(
« Last Edit: April 27, 2016, 07:51 by ShadySue »

« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 08:36 »
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They sell, not much, but they sell.


« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 13:35 »
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I  have severe problems with  my  arms  and  I  am  only uploading  to 4 agencies.  Would it be better  to go with just one exclusive  in order to get more paid?  If yes which one?  I  do like DT because they tell me what's wrong with my photos.  I  get views on DT but hardly any on Fotolia. No sales yet.  Would it be best to go exclusive  with SS ?
Not sure if uploading to many agencies is the answer. You have to find the balance between the time and effort spent uploading and the sales.
I stopped uploading to many low earners and will probably delete them once I reach payout, including DT.
All my best images go to macrostock, the rest goes to SS, FT, Alamy and some mobile sites.

« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 20:32 »
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Thank you.  I  am not  uploading  to iStock yet. I  am  new. I  do like DT for learning  but have a high acceptance rate there but not with  Fotolia.  The same photos get rejected  by  Fotolia.  I  am not sure if my photos are good enough for iStock.  I  don't have problems to get photos accepted  that i took outside  but with the  light set up  inside  i struggle.  I  don't have a light tent. Natural window light doesn't seem to be enough for DT. I  do use a reflector. I  don't like artificial light on food. I  will  try out iStock.
Hi HappyBunny! As a newbie and the very short time I have been doing this I would say SS, IS and Fotolia are worth uploading to. As others have pointed out IS takes more time to upload but it is now just in front of SS with sales for me. I also have a very low acceptance with Fotolia but I do see different sales there compared to SS. Like you DT accepts most thing but I have very few sales (I hold out hope).
If you use FTP (I'm using Xpiks) it saves you from entering the title and description each time. Also DeepMeta for iStock is a bit of a timesaver. Good luck!

« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 20:35 »
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Very sad. At least my photos get viewed  there.  The same photos on Fotolia  have no views but i do have less on Fotolia.

I wouldn't worry too much about view count. I have photos on Fotolia that sold without having any views! I'm not sure their view-ometer works very well.

« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2016, 01:14 »
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Thank you sooooo  much for all your help.  I  bought the EasyStock uploader but was so disappointed  when i realised that it doesn't let me add keywords  and description to photos.  I  don't use the  subscription  Photoshop. I  use Affinity  fit editing and that doesn't let me add keywords to the photos.  Do other FTP uploaders let me add keywords  and description  to each photo? 

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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2016, 03:33 »
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Thank you sooooo  much for all your help.  I  bought the EasyStock uploader but was so disappointed  when i realised that it doesn't let me add keywords  and description to photos.  I  don't use the  subscription  Photoshop. I  use Affinity  fit editing and that doesn't let me add keywords to the photos.  Do other FTP uploaders let me add keywords  and description  to each photo? 
Yes, you can add keywords with Xpiks (free), I haven't tried any others. Once you have added your keywords, titles and descriptions and save it you can then upload however you want as the file is then saved with the image. Someone else might suggest a good one that they use too. Because I haven't tried any others I'm not sure which would be the best or easiest for you to use. MyKeyworder does a pretty good job with keyword suggestions.

« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2016, 03:51 »
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Thank you very much.  I  will  look into that straight away.  What a waste of money  the EasyStock  software  was.  Instead of uploading  3 photos at once to DT it only uploaded  one.  Real waste of money. 

« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2016, 03:55 »
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Hello  Zalee, I tried to Google your Xpiks ftp uploader  but can't  find  it. 

SergeStudio

« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2016, 04:35 »
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[Sorry, machine translation]

I think that agencies lead us to index our images carefully:
-DeepMeta for iStock: should be confirmed in their direction, one by one, nearly half of the key words
Limitation of the number of words for the title. Should not begin with "A".
-Alamy place the keywords saved with the image in the secondary keywords and obliges us to choose the main and other
-Fotolia and SS are not the same for the description (caption/title defined in Ligthroom)

A few specifics:
-Alamy account number of characters, the others in number of words
-Alamy does not handle singulars / plurals: SS among other flag them when submitting
-Alamy asks unknown field in others, main key words

As a beginner, I confess that I did not much care my titrations/keywordings in my downloads first. It is a mistake. I've corrected in the stocks where it may the be. Exception of Fotolia who cannot only change the order of keywords.

I think we should take the time to treat the keywording: know and do know!

I always assume the suggestions by SS, without forgetting that it is somewhat uniform.

Note: the keywords in Lightroom are unusable: classification alphabetically...
It would be heaven if a next release fixes the thing...


« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2016, 08:24 »
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Are the Low Earners worth uploading to?

Some are worth it, most are not! There are some Low Earners that earn you with a single sale or a few sales more money than a top tier in a month or two. Zoonar is an example for that. But you have lot of work to get your pictures online and you must be patient at least one or two years!

« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2016, 08:29 »
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Why do i have to wait one or two years? 

« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2016, 10:42 »
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Why do i have to wait one or two years?

Because it takes so long until you have the first sales.

« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2016, 10:45 »
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Yes, but why? Is it because I need to have hundreds of photos on the websites?

ShadySue

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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2016, 10:59 »
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Yes, but why? Is it because I need to have hundreds of photos on the websites?
Yes, and they have so few buyers.That's why they're low earners. QED.

« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2016, 11:18 »
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Yes, but why? Is it because I need to have hundreds of photos on the websites?
Yes, and they have so few buyers.That's why they're low earners. QED.

That's right. And the upload process and keywording are usually very elaborate, and some agencies require the tagging in two languages.

« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2016, 11:25 »
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Yes,  that's why i bought EasyStock  but it doesn't let me add keywords  or description.  I  can't  find Xpiks on the internet.  I  certainly  will  give up Bigstockphoto. I  have  not applied  at SS bit want to do that.  When I  wrote  to Bigstockphoto  and told them that i want to upload  to SS they told me that they wrote to SS and that I would hear  from  SS but i haven't.  Is it better to just close the  Bigstockphoto  account  and to apply at SS ? I  had no sale on Bigstockphoto.  Hardly any photos the because I  can't manage  all that copying  and  pasting  keywords. ...Thank you for all your help. 

« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2016, 12:18 »
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I wouldnt close an account once opened. You never know what happens in this industry, maybe ss one day has a great idea for bigstock and youll be glad, you still have an account there.

i would feed the low earners maybe once a quarter and perhaps with the files that you know are selling, not with everything.

But I would definitely apply to SS, they are the best agency for many.

Alternatively you could experiment with adding a few files or a theme exclusive to fotolia, once you get a feeling for what sells there.

exclusive images help to improve overall visibilty.

but I would only do it, once you get a feeling what their customers like to buy from you.



 

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