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« on: May 22, 2018, 13:47 »
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I have a huge bank of images, videos, and rendered animations that I think is if buyable quality. I see as every other "passive income" -methods it is mostly about the numbers and partially about the quality.
What is your experience guys?

 I am aiming for 10000 images this year. What does that in your kind of quality-uploads give you?

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 14:07 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.

« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 14:14 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.

Lol, don't get her hopes up.

« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2018, 15:07 »
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I'd say somewhere between 1$ per image per month to 1$ per image per year. This assumes decent images uploaded to multiple outlets. Probably a lot closer to the lower end. Upload a few images and see what you get and if you think it is worth your time. Spacestockphoto is probably including video in their answer.

« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2018, 15:16 »
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You can do well probably, just remember you have to do a lot of hard long and good job in keywording.
And money will not suddenly rains, it will take months and years, meanwhile you should feed the beast day by day

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 16:24 »
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If you have a database of quality pics and vids then there's money to be made.  Not easily though.  It'll take a lot of hard work.

« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2018, 00:08 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Per agency?

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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2018, 00:10 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Per agency?

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Didn't see the K

I have had some sucsees with merch by Amazon. Easiest 500$ per month ever made.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2018, 00:40 »
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Per agency... I wish! Keep in mind that I have about 750 items in total, so I don't actually make anywhere near $850K a year. But if I had 10,000 items at the same level of quality and variety, then I should make close to that purely by extrapolation. 

« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 02:10 »
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I think I just continue "feeding the beast" and see how well it goes. Its ads an exelent bonusmotivation to learn more across the Adobe suite, Espessially in Indesign, AfterEffects and Illustrator - apps I so far havent created any assests with.

« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 03:27 »
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I have had some sucsees with merch by Amazon. Easiest 500$ per month ever made.

Expand, please.

« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 05:54 »
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I have had some sucsees with merch by Amazon. Easiest 500$ per month ever made.

Expand, please.

I think you should check out r/amazonmerch on reddit. It will point you in the direction on how.
It definetly takes time, as your design is restricted by copyright, tough competition and a an inivtation-based signup.

After that, it all depends on how successfull your stratetgy is. People sell t-shirts and hoodies on different grounds.
Some makes the shirts they wanna wear them selves. Others spend a lot of time studying niches and competition.
Others just poor out whatever they feel like and still make a decent ammount of cash.
I have done a mixture of all of the mentioned.
One rule of thumb is that low brow-funny-cool-content usually sell better than high brow- intellectual art paintings.


« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 06:49 »
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Oh, I thought you were selling stock on Amazon.  Not T-shirts.

« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2018, 07:13 »
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Oh, I thought you were selling stock on Amazon.  Not T-shirts.

Ah, I see.
Guess they one day will do as Adobe did, and swallow one of the top tier agencies  ;D

« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2018, 09:42 »
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you said: " I am aiming for 10000 images this year. What does that in your kind of quality-uploads give you?"

I spent about 40 days filming 40 actors, with 700 or some images per actor, 3 hours per person, and earn about $300 monthly after submitting more than half of the work.

I did the same on video with 7 people, about 100 videos per 3 hour session, and also make $300 monthly from that group.

I have filmed about 300 days, and I would say 99% of the work turned a profit. typical profit for 1 day of work can be from $500 to $1,000 over many years, however I am relatively new to stock selling so I do not have many years worth of sales.

my advice is that you definitely are going to make money but there is a lot of waiting time especially for video sales.

« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2018, 12:13 »
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For someone that doesnt know how to use their camera youre keeping awfully busy.

« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2018, 04:28 »
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you said: " I am aiming for 10000 images this year. What does that in your kind of quality-uploads give you?"

I spent about 40 days filming 40 actors, with 700 or some images per actor, 3 hours per person, and earn about $300 monthly after submitting more than half of the work.

I did the same on video with 7 people, about 100 videos per 3 hour session, and also make $300 monthly from that group.

I have filmed about 300 days, and I would say 99% of the work turned a profit. typical profit for 1 day of work can be from $500 to $1,000 over many years, however I am relatively new to stock selling so I do not have many years worth of sales.

my advice is that you definitely are going to make money but there is a lot of waiting time especially for video sales.

Interesting. Did you do this solely for submitting to stock agencies, or was it workrelated?


« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2018, 04:32 »
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I think stock photagraphy is interesting, but working across multiple diciplines is what really triggers me.

I got a lot of AE-projectfiles, rendered animations with transparent bacground, titleanimations and so on. And its VERY intriguing now that animating has become much more accessible for everyone on premeire with the Essentials Graphics panel.

Thanks for the replys guys!  :)

« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2018, 09:39 »
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you said: "Interesting. Did you do this solely for submitting to stock agencies, or was it workrelated?"

I started by selling BRoll.

I did some filming by going to different locations in town but it does not sell that well.

I then did some tests where I would go on vacation, film something, and try to sell it. when I went on a trip, I made most of my money from the filming I did in the airport or on the plane, and little from filming the final destination.

now, I make arrangements to film for example every day for 30 days. I hire actors and schedule 1 per day. after I do 30 days of filming, I spend another 45 days or so editing photos and keywording. I will end up with about 20,000 or more photos and maybe 1000 videos. then I spend many weeks or months uploading. I upload about 1,000 to 2,000 photos per week. many of the actors know each other, and the crew also, so it ends up being a lot of fun because I am working with people who are friends with each other.

when the weather changes, and it is time to film again, I do a casting call to locate more actors and repeat the process.

Shelma1

« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2018, 09:39 »
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you said: " I am aiming for 10000 images this year. What does that in your kind of quality-uploads give you?"

I spent about 40 days filming 40 actors, with 700 or some images per actor, 3 hours per person, and earn about $300 monthly after submitting more than half of the work.

I did the same on video with 7 people, about 100 videos per 3 hour session, and also make $300 monthly from that group.

I have filmed about 300 days, and I would say 99% of the work turned a profit. typical profit for 1 day of work can be from $500 to $1,000 over many years, however I am relatively new to stock selling so I do not have many years worth of sales.

my advice is that you definitely are going to make money but there is a lot of waiting time especially for video sales.

Why are you making money from them? Don't you just let everyone use them for free, as "fair use?" Since there's no such thing as copyright, after all.

« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2018, 12:18 »
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you said: "Interesting. Did you do this solely for submitting to stock agencies, or was it workrelated?"

I started by selling BRoll.

I did some filming by going to different locations in town but it does not sell that well.

I then did some tests where I would go on vacation, film something, and try to sell it. when I went on a trip, I made most of my money from the filming I did in the airport or on the plane, and little from filming the final destination.

now, I make arrangements to film for example every day for 30 days. I hire actors and schedule 1 per day. after I do 30 days of filming, I spend another 45 days or so editing photos and keywording. I will end up with about 20,000 or more photos and maybe 1000 videos. then I spend many weeks or months uploading. I upload about 1,000 to 2,000 photos per week. many of the actors know each other, and the crew also, so it ends up being a lot of fun because I am working with people who are friends with each other.

when the weather changes, and it is time to film again, I do a casting call to locate more actors and repeat the process.

Are you independently wealthy? You talk about locations, hiring actors, having a crew, spending 30 days shooting and presumably paying your crew and actors during that period and then taking 45 days to process the results but then mention making $300 monthly from the sessions.

You must be a millionaire doing this for kicks and a tax write off.

« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2018, 17:47 »
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you said: " I am aiming for 10000 images this year. What does that in your kind of quality-uploads give you?"

I spent about 40 days filming 40 actors, with 700 or some images per actor, 3 hours per person, and earn about $300 monthly after submitting more than half of the work.

I did the same on video with 7 people, about 100 videos per 3 hour session, and also make $300 monthly from that group.

I have filmed about 300 days, and I would say 99% of the work turned a profit. typical profit for 1 day of work can be from $500 to $1,000 over many years, however I am relatively new to stock selling so I do not have many years worth of sales.

my advice is that you definitely are going to make money but there is a lot of waiting time especially for video sales.

Another question: How much are you paying your "actors"? 40 actors for 3 hours at even $20/hour comes to $2400. You talk about it being profitable, making you $1000 over many years even though you haven't been at it for many years meaning you haven't made that profit yet. Are your "actors" just family and friends and you didn't pay them at all? It's the only way any of that makes sense to me.

« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2018, 00:08 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Hello,

How?
Just have them all being uploaded to different stock sites for sale?
or there is other ideas in your mind?
please advise.
thanks

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2018, 23:34 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Hello,

How?
Just have them all being uploaded to different stock sites for sale?
or there is other ideas in your mind?
please advise.
thanks

I got the math slightly wrong, should be $650K. But still... the guy asked how much we would make if we had 10,000 files. I make around $50K a year and I have 750 files. So if I had 10,000 files, all things being equal, I would make about $650K a year.

« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2018, 08:03 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Shelma1

« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2018, 08:16 »
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Lol. I remember a few years ago doing the math and thinking if I had x number of files online I'd be making $XXX,XXX per year. I could retire in my 50's and make more and more money every year and eventually be raking in millions annually in my 70's with the little illustrations I did at home.

We all found out the hard way that it doesn't work that way.

« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2018, 09:02 »
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You should see the printout of my exclusivity estimator from 2007.


« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2018, 15:07 »
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You should see the printout of my exclusivity estimator from 2007.

I think my exclusivity estimator from 2007 had me raking it in by now, so I am sure yours was through the roof and made up from unicorns, rainbows, and hearts or whatever they were smoking at that time.

csm

« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2018, 15:16 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Hello,

How?
Just have them all being uploaded to different stock sites for sale?
or there is other ideas in your mind?
please advise.
thanks

I got the math slightly wrong, should be $650K. But still... the guy asked how much we would make if we had 10,000 files. I make around $50K a year and I have 750 files. So if I had 10,000 files, all things being equal, I would make about $650K a year.

Just goes to show content is the most important thing, and people get caught up with numbers, especially with footage. People think you need tens of thousands of clips, when most of the top contributors have much less, but every clips is a winner...

« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2018, 19:23 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Hello,

How?
Just have them all being uploaded to different stock sites for sale?
or there is other ideas in your mind?
please advise.
thanks

I got the math slightly wrong, should be $650K. But still... the guy asked how much we would make if we had 10,000 files. I make around $50K a year and I have 750 files. So if I had 10,000 files, all things being equal, I would make about $650K a year.

Just goes to show content is the most important thing, and people get caught up with numbers, especially with footage. People think you need tens of thousands of clips, when most of the top contributors have much less, but every clips is a winner...
Excellent point!

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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2018, 20:16 »
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Lol. I remember a few years ago doing the math and thinking if I had x number of files online I'd be making $XXX,XXX per year. I could retire in my 50's and make more and more money every year and eventually be raking in millions annually in my 70's with the little illustrations I did at home.

We all found out the hard way that it doesn't work that way.

Yeah, I've been doing it long enough to know that as well... that's why I put in the "all things being equal" clause. Although to be fair, the discrepancy between X and Y is usually down to time. If I had double the amount of clips tomorrow (of the same quality and variety - rather than duplicates), then I probably would make in the region of double the amount of money this month.

But nobody doubles their portfolio overnight unless it's their first month selling stock. By the time they do go from 5000 to 10,000 clips... or 1000 to 2000... the market is usually considerably different by then. Lower commissions, more contributors, more files, more competition, your original clips are less appealing etc etc.     

« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2018, 20:41 »
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I have over 10k video files and plkasdjfj oh sorry Yacht hit a big wave. Time for hot tub and a massage! Love my stock video!!

« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2018, 12:28 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Thats impressive.
Can you share your portfoolio? Very interesting to have a look.
And what sites do you use? of course there are not only one of them.

regards

« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2018, 13:43 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Thats impressive.
Can you share your portfoolio? Very interesting to have a look.
And what sites do you use? of course there are not only one of them.

regards

No, sorry.  I'm very secretive.  You'll never know who I am.

Shelma1

« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2018, 16:54 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Thats impressive.
Can you share your portfoolio? Very interesting to have a look.
And what sites do you use? of course there are not only one of them.

regards

No, sorry.  I'm very secretive.  You'll never know who I am.

This post made my day.

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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2018, 20:18 »
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He's Sean Locke... the photographer.

« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2018, 23:12 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Thats impressive.
Can you share your portfoolio? Very interesting to have a look.
And what sites do you use? of course there are not only one of them.

regards

No, sorry.  I'm very secretive.  You'll never know who I am.

Well that made me smile. 


« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2018, 05:29 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

I've never thought you will...

"_"

Regards, good luck


Thats impressive.
Can you share your portfoolio? Very interesting to have a look.
And what sites do you use? of course there are not only one of them.

regards

No, sorry.  I'm very secretive.  You'll never know who I am.

This post made my day.

« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2018, 03:30 »
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That would give me about $850K a year.
Hello,

How?
Just have them all being uploaded to different stock sites for sale?
or there is other ideas in your mind?
please advise.
thanks

I got the math slightly wrong, should be $650K. But still... the guy asked how much we would make if we had 10,000 files. I make around $50K a year and I have 750 files. So if I had 10,000 files, all things being equal, I would make about $650K a year.

What level of quality would you say your stock assets are at?

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2018, 04:17 »
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They're motion graphics so they take a bit of work, and although they're not exactly ILM level, they do pretty well at the agencies. Some make me over $1000 a year, so they must be pretty good I suppose.

« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2018, 04:43 »
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They're motion graphics so they take a bit of work, and although they're not exactly ILM level, they do pretty well at the agencies. Some make me over $1000 a year, so they must be pretty good I suppose.

How manye agnecies do you uppload to?

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2018, 12:43 »
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It was up to 15 at one point... wanted to cover all the bases. I only upload to 7 of them now, as they accounted for more than 90% of my earnings. The four in the top tier, plus VideoHive, VideoBlocks and Motion Array. 

« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2018, 07:32 »
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I thought you were kidding.  I have more than 10k files and make nowhere near that.  Nowhere.

Its been mentioned on this forum somewhere in some posts recently that no matter the size of portfolio as long as it has selling products - like you can have 300 - 500 works but be in the top, and have 10000 works and be far from it.
its all depend on the demand. IMHO.

I personally think that depending on what kind of works you sale most, you have to multiply same or similar to them and continue to hard work further.

angelawaye

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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2018, 09:47 »
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Lol. I remember a few years ago doing the math and thinking if I had x number of files online I'd be making $XXX,XXX per year. I could retire in my 50's and make more and more money every year and eventually be raking in millions annually in my 70's with the little illustrations I did at home.

We all found out the hard way that it doesn't work that way.

Good times for sure! Those were the days!


 

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