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Author Topic: Do photos have to be on the same licence basis on different stock sites?  (Read 1485 times)

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« on: May 24, 2018, 10:42 »
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Hi!
I'm really new to stock photography, but have sold a few photos at AdobeStock over the past few months.  I believe they only sell as Royalty Free, with full model/property releases so that it can be used for commercial/editorial - so this must be the licence mine are sold as.

I've more recently joined Alamy to just see how it works at a different agency, and also so that I can try some of my non-model released pictures for sale (as editorial only). As they do both Royalty Free and Rights Managed (and either can be editorial only), I've been reading all about this to get my head around it. I've gone through their forums and found that the majority of experienced sellers recommend RM.  I thought therefore I'd try a mixture of RM and RF to see what happens.

However, if I have the same image on Adobe Stock and Alamy, does the fact that it's RF at Adobe mean that it has to be RF at Alamy?  I'd asked Alamy a related query, and this is the impression I get from them.  But it wasn't clear, and so I wanted to ask other experienced sellers what they knew - rather than being steered towards an answer.  Is it just that a buyer may be annoyed if they buy a photo on one site as RM, and then find it elsewhere as RF - or is that legally the same photo cannot be sold on different bases?  If legally, is this in the contract with the relevant stock agencies, or something to do with copyright law?  To be honest, I was hoping even at Alamy there would be an option to offer photos on either licence, so that the customer could choose whether to pay more for the RF and full-size - or just limit it to certain uses/sizes and pay less with RM; but this clearly isn't an option. (I haven't ticked the exclusive box BTW on the Alamy images).

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter, or any other thoughts on selling the same image at multiple stock sites.


« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 10:57 »
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The answer is yes

If you have an image on sale as RF (royalty free) on a stock site such as Shutterstock
or Adobe then you can not sell it as RM (rights managed) on Alamy or any other site.

You can of course upload it to Alamy as RF or RF editorial (if it has people or body parts or brands, logos or copyright designs)

« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2018, 17:29 »
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Thanks so much for that.  I'll go through any I put up on Alamy and make sure they're on the same licence then. 

If I take some down from Adobe Stock, will that be okay to put on Alamy as RM - and would it make a difference if they had sold or not?

Thanks again.

ShadySue

« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 18:08 »
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Hi!
I'm really new to stock photography, but have sold a few photos at AdobeStock over the past few months.  I believe they only sell as Royalty Free, with full model/property releases so that it can be used for commercial/editorial - so this must be the licence mine are sold as.

I've more recently joined Alamy to just see how it works at a different agency, and also so that I can try some of my non-model released pictures for sale (as editorial only). As they do both Royalty Free and Rights Managed (and either can be editorial only), I've been reading all about this to get my head around it. I've gone through their forums and found that the majority of experienced sellers recommend RM.  I thought therefore I'd try a mixture of RM and RF to see what happens.

However, if I have the same image on Adobe Stock and Alamy, does the fact that it's RF at Adobe mean that it has to be RF at Alamy?  I'd asked Alamy a related query, and this is the impression I get from them.  But it wasn't clear, and so I wanted to ask other experienced sellers what they knew - rather than being steered towards an answer.  Is it just that a buyer may be annoyed if they buy a photo on one site as RM, and then find it elsewhere as RF - or is that legally the same photo cannot be sold on different bases?  If legally, is this in the contract with the relevant stock agencies, or something to do with copyright law?  To be honest, I was hoping even at Alamy there would be an option to offer photos on either licence, so that the customer could choose whether to pay more for the RF and full-size - or just limit it to certain uses/sizes and pay less with RM; but this clearly isn't an option. (I haven't ticked the exclusive box BTW on the Alamy images).

Thank you for any thoughts on this matter, or any other thoughts on selling the same image at multiple stock sites.

Yes, it's in the Alamy contract.
"2.2 You cannot submit identical or similar images to Alamy as both Royalty-Free and
Rights Managed. The licence type on Alamy for an image must be the same as the licence type for that image and similar images which you have on other agency websites."


« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 13:12 »
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Thanks again!


 

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